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An Antic Disposition: Asking the right questions about Office 2010's OOXML support - 1 views

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      ... and we can expect similar censure for people claiming to support "ODF"?
  • Remember, the conformance language of OOXML is so loose that even a shell statement of "cat foo.docx > /dev/null" would qualify as a conformant application.
    • Alex Brown
       
      Think you're confusing ODF and OOXML here Rob; hint - look at OOXML "application descriptions"
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  • But that is not what WG4 was recently told in Seattle, where they were told that Office would not write out Strict documents until Office 16
  • In other words, will Office 2010 be "strictly conformant" with the ISO/IEC 29500:2008 standards?
    • Alex Brown
       
      interesting made up concept, this "strictly conformant", for a standard which contains an extensibility mechanism ...
    • Alex Brown
       
      err, news to me ... and I was at the meeting.
  • To do otherwise is to essentially specify a require for the use of Microsoft Office and Microsoft Office alone.
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      or any of those other applications which support that format (including some from IBM even) ...
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What are the decision criteria for DCORs in the JTC1 Directives? (Norbert Bollow's Comm... - 0 views

    • Alex Brown
       
      Don't think so, Norbert - the DCOR has passed ...
Alex Brown

Blogger: An Antic Disposition - Post a Comment - 0 views

    • Alex Brown
       
      "practical purposes", "reference implementation" - guys, why not just cut the crap and state you want to use OpenOffice (or MS Office) or whatever? Could it be that's ... not allowed?
Alex Brown

[office] OpenDocument TC coordination call minutes 2009-10-19 - 2 views

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      The strange lack of fanfare about this is deafening.
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An Antic Disposition: Protocols, Formats and the Limits of Disclosure - 2 views

  • it strips out ODF spreadsheet formulas
    • Alex Brown
       
      Telling ellision. I think Rob means "OpenOffice.org spreadsheet formulas" ...
  • interoperability is achieved by converging on a common interpretation of the format
    • Alex Brown
       
      Or, rather more effectively, by drafting the standard competently enough that the need for "intepretation" is, in practice, eliminated ...
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An Antic Disposition: The Final OOXML Update: Part I - 0 views

  • In any case, my current estimate is for us to send ODF 1.2 out for public review later this year and then to have a vote to approve it as an OASIS Standard in Q1 2010.
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      What are the odds?!
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OOXML leap-year bug unfix (Norbert Bollow's Comments on Standards) - 0 views

  • I have been shocked to find that they're actually proposing to re-introduce the leap-year bug
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      And I'm shocked to see a member of the Swiss NB, who has contributed ZERO effort to WG 4 huge efforts in this area, poop out such an ignorant piece of rubbish as this blog article
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Lotus Symphony gets some OOXML support : News : Software - ZDNet Asia - 0 views

  • Symphony 1.3, released last week, now enables imports of documents using Microsoft's Office Open XML (OOXML) format. However, the free-of-charge office suite does not yet let users save documents in OOXML.
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      shhhhh
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Is There Life After Office? | BNET Technology Blog | BNET - 0 views

  • Kafkaesque joke exemplifying vendor ambition, inexperience and stupidity
    • Alex Brown
       
      Sounds familiar
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Where is there an end of it? | No one supports ISO ODF today? - 0 views

  • I changed the post to more precisely reflect the facts
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      I think the word Americans use in circumstances like this is "busted".
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Microsoft and OpenDocument Format - At Last Some Compatibility? - News - eWeekEurope.co.uk - 0 views

  • It might have been helpful if Microsoft had targeted instead ODF 1.2,
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      Sigh; people don't seem to get that 1.2 doesn't exist ...
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Oracle's Ellison gambles with OpenOffice's future * The Register - 0 views

  • "We encourage the OpenOffice group to quickly build their version of a spread sheet or a word app using JavaFX," Ellison said.
    • Alex Brown
       
      errr, what? And is OO.o's future now under Larry's direct command?!
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Is ODF designed to be not implementable without source code? - Wouter - 0 views

  • How come I am the one to notice how deficient ODF really is?
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      "But mummy, he's not *wearing* any clothes ..."
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The Phantom Proposals - 0 views

  • I want to make sure that the record is crystal clear in this regard, since statements are being made, and actions attributed to members of this TC, which are false, misleading and reflect poorly on OASIS, this TC, our work and our decision making process. I don't think any of us want to see that happen.
    • Alex Brown
       
      Oh?
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ODF Alliance Weblog: Microsoft's ODF Support Falls Short - 0 views

  • “Unfortunately, serious shortcomings have been identified in Microsoft’s support for ODF. Putting potentially millions of ODF files into circulation that are non-interoperable and incompatible with the ODF support provided by other vendors is a recipe for fragmentation.”
    • Alex Brown
       
      I think Mr Marcich forgot to put inverted commas round his particular use of "ODF" to denote its special meaning ...
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OOXML is defective by design: Microsoft's latest aggression on ODF, codenamed "cast lead" - 0 views

  • nazis
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      "Nazis", "genocide", "white phosphorous" -- and all about a file format implementation ...
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Dr AJG's Commentary » Rob Weir…Going after Microsoft? - 0 views

  • It ahs been clear for a along time that the ODF standard primarily tries to codify various implementations and as such does not guarantee interoperability. Why blame Microsoft if their implementation does not further interoperability either? The writers of the ODF standard are to blame.
    • Alex Brown
       
      well, quite
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Doug Mahugh : Tracked Changes - 0 views

  • Much was made during the IS29500 standards process of the difference in the size of the ODF and Open XML specifications.  This is a good example of where that difference comes from: in this case, a concept glossed over in three vague sentences of the ODF spec gets 17 pages of documentation in the Open XML spec.
    • Alex Brown
       
      This is the nub; OOXML may be overweight, but ODF is severely undernourished as a spec.
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    Paul, that's right - though so far the faulty things in OOXML turn out to be more round the edges as opposed to ODF's central lapses. Still, it's early days in the examination of OOXML so I'm reserving making any firm call on the comparative merits of the specs until I have read a lot (a lot) more. Is there an area of OOXML you'd say was particularly underbaked? I'm quite interested in the fact that neither of these beasts specify scripting languages ...
Alex Brown

There is no end, but addition: Alex Brown's weblog - SC 34 Meetings, Jeju Island, Korea... - 0 views

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  • There seems to be a view abroad that to be a friend of ODF one cannot criticise it. This has done enormous damage, I believe, the result of which will become plain over the coming months as implemenations which are strictly conformant will demonstrate non-substitutablity. When this happens the blame will lie at the feet of the specification.
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      Oh my prophetic soul!
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OpenDocument - Formula - 0 views

  • OpenDocument already supports the inclusion of arbitrary formula languages for spreadsheet documents.
    • Alex Brown
       
      and (for conformance fetishists) the important word here is "arbitrary".
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