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J. B.

Euangelion: Love Wins 2 - 0 views

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Rob Bell Universalism Hell

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  • Have we somehow misunderstood or twisted the truth of what Jesus came to do? Well, this is a huge question that would require survey of Gospel accounts let alone a wide-ranging study of Gospel presentations today. Neither of which did Love Wins provide. So, it is certainly an overstatement.
  • many Christians sitting in our churches are secretly asking them, but afraid to raise them publicly.
  • I’d be shocked if we conducted a survey of people in our churches and not many of them were either pluralistic or universalists. There is the official teaching of the church and then there is what the Christians who sit in the pews believe. Often these are two very different things.
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  • Do you really mean to say that the central truth of Christianity is about getting out of hell and into heaven? Or, are you presenting this as Rob's view? If so, I'd have to disagree with you. Can you elaborate?
    • J. B.
      J. B. on 20 Apr 11
       
      If we understand Hell as a place of separation from (right) relationship with God and a place of being subjected to the wrath of God, then isn't this at the very heart of the gospel? 
  • it is not accurate by any stretch to call orthodox a view that (1) tends toward universalism, (2) presents a “second-chance” theology, and (3) argues that nothing of what is central to the Gospel story is about “getting in”. This view can claim the label orthodoxy about as much as those found among the Gnostic Gospels. Sure there were so-called Christians used these texts and who thought of them as Christian Scripture, but they were on the very fringes of early Christianity representing only a very small minority.
  • Well we haven't defined heaven yet which is important in such a discussion, but yes I think a central aspect of Jesus teaching was getting into the soon coming kingdom which I equate with heaven.
  • J. B. on 20 Apr 11
     
    The first (or second?) part of a review of Rob Bell's "Love Wins."
J. B.

Do not Ask for whom the Bell tolls…… A Chapter by Chapter review of 'Love Win... - 0 views

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Ben Witherington III Rob Bell Hell Universalism

shared by J. B. on 10 Apr 11 - Cached
  • in the Preface there is the disclaimer— ‘nothing in this book has not been claimed before within the parameters of the broad stream of historic orthodox Christianity’  (p. x).   As it turns out, and as we shall see, this is actually not quite accurate, if one is referring to creedal or confessional or conciliar orthodoxy.  If one means no more that some church father somewhere at sometime said something like this before, whether we deem him to be making an off-handed comment or not, then perhaps this claim can stand.
  • What is entirely missing from this chapter is any sort of discussion of sin, sin as the alienating cause of human lostness,  sin as the reason why persons are not going to heaven.  Let me be clear that I think Rom. 1.18-32 is crucial to this question.  Unfortunately Rom. 1 is not dealt with in this first chapter and what texts he does cite he does not treat in any detail.  Rather Rob sort of flits from one text to the next like a butterfly hoping to drain the tiny bit of nectar in each flower.
  • people are not condemned to hell or judgment for what they have never heard about God.   What Romans 1 says is that the reality of God and God’s power is evident in all of creation, and people are judged for what they do with the light about God that they have indeed received.  What Paul says they do is that while they know God exists and is powerful, they refuse to acknowledge God,  the most primal sin of all. In other words,  most of the questions Rob raises in Chapter One are entirely irrelevant.     People do not go to Hell (whether in a handbasket or by some other means of conveyance)  due to ignorance of God or of Christ. 
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  • Rob wants to suggest that a just or righteous or holy or judging God is somehow not good news. Tell that to the oppressed Christians in North Korea.   Tell that to the ordinary citizens of Libya longing to be set free from a wicked and brutal dictator.  Tell that to the Jews during the Holocaust in WWII.   In a sin-soaked world,  Good News involves both redemption and judgment, both vindication and liberation, both holiness and love.    The God of the Bible is holy love.  Not love without holiness which would fail to deal with the cancer called sin.  And not holiness without love, for if that was the way God related to us all— no one could stand.     The Good News of and about Jesus Christ, who will be the final judge of the world, is that justice, mercy and grace are all a part of this story.
  • J. B. on 10 Apr 11
     
    The first of an eight part review of Rob Bell's book "Love Wins." By Ben Witherington III
IN Too

Gone Fishin' « Reflections in the WORD - 0 views

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    When Jesus calls you/me into ministry (any kind of ministry; Romans 12:4-8), what will be our response?Will we immediately make the step of faith? Or will we hold back (making the usual excuses)?When Jesus makes the call, do we have our minds set for service?
IN Too

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  • IN Too on 25 Apr 11
     
    Whatever the suffering we might be experiencing as a consequence for following our own way instead of God's way, the promise of God still extends to us: If we will recommit our lives to Him; if we will serve Him; if we will do things His way; if we will look at life through His eyes; then God promises to restore the years we have lost: "the years that the locust hath eaten".
IN Too

He's an On-Time God, Yes He Is: A True Story of God's Perfect Timing « Reflec... - 0 views

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  • IN Too on 12 Jul 11
     
    Sometimes God chooses to let us walk through the storm so that we can learn that He will never leave us or let a situation be more than we can handle with His help. And sometimes He just plain steps in and fixes everything better than you could possibly have dreamed. Sometimes it happens in a moment, sometimes after years of patient waiting. We'll never see it if we don't let Him work, if we don't step back in faith and let God be God.
IN Too

To The Uttermost « Reflections in the WORD - 0 views

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  • IN Too on 21 Jul 11
     
    The same God that formed us in our mothers' wombs desires a personal relationship with us. While we are in human corruptible flesh we are only able to have access to Him through an incorruptible, sinless representative. Jesus is the one and only High Priest who fits that description.
IN Too

Precious Promises Prevail over Persistent Problems - 0 views

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  • IN Too on 14 Oct 11
     
    …our faith in God may be tested to the ultimate. How will we come out on the other side of difficult situations? Will we emerge from our troubles and trials giving Christ the victory for having clung to Him and the promises in His Word?
Sue Elmore

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angelapardie

Christian Movie | "Knocking at the Door" | How to Be Raptured to the Kingdom of Heaven ... - 1 views

Two thousand years ago, the Lord Jesus prophesied, "And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom comes; go you out to meet him" (Matthew 25:6). "Behold, I stand at th...

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The significance of God taking the name Jehovah in the Age of Law - 2 views

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José Bortolato

JÓ - IX - UM RAIO DE ESPERANÇA - 0 views

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the middst of a sufferance we can find light hope. How is it? It written in book Job chapter 19 and are here commenting - portuguese but you may translate to language would want have good time this lecture.

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  • José Bortolato on 16 Jul 20
     
    Jó capítulos 18 e 19 Em meio às mais terríveis amarguras, saibam todos que existe uma luz, um abrigo na tempestade, uma paz no meio da tormenta, uma luz que espanca as trevas, a verdade que vence os sofismas, o consolo que apaga as angústias da alma, o alívio para as dores físicas e
  • José Bortolato on 16 Jul 20
     
    In the middst of a sufferance we can find a light of hope. How is it? It is written in the book of Job, chapter 19, and we are here commenting - in portuguese, but you may translate to the language you would want, and have a good time in this lecture.
José Bortolato

SALMOS - XXI - DEUS É FASCINANTE! - 0 views

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What kind of things make you amazed? Nature? Or a special person? king David was passionate in love with Being. Do want to know who was? Read this article that is written portuguese but may translate the language would want. Have good lecture.

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  • José Bortolato on 13 Dec 20
     
    Salmo 19 Fascinação é o tipo do entusiasmo que nos atrai e enleva as nossas almas, fazendo-nos viver uma apaixonante viagem por um mundo que nem todos conhecem, nem o viram, isso porque ainda não o descobriram. Um coração assim envolto, em um sentimento tão sublime, só deseja que mais e mais
  • José Bortolato on 13 Dec 20
     
    What kind of things make you amazed? The Nature? Or a special person? The king David was passionate, in love with a special Being. Do you want to know who was? Read this article, that is written in portuguese, but you may translate to the language you would want. Have you a good lecture.
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My hubby and I were married for 2 years but we have been with each other for seven years before we got married. So, it was devastating when I discovered he is cheating on me with his co-worker. I r...

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