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angelapardie

Disclosing: Is the Lord Jesus the Son of God, or God Himself? - 2 views

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Daniel 11:21 - 0 views

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    # בְיָמִי  u·b·imim and·in·days # אֲחָדִי achdim several-ones בֵר - יִ ָ ishbr he-shall-be-broken וְלאֹ u·la and·not # יִ: בְאַ ַ b·aphim in·angers וְלאֹ u·la and·not בְמִלְחָמָה b·mlchme in·battle : : וְעָמַד 11:21 u·omd and·he-stands עַל ol on ־ -  )ַ kn·u post-of·him נִבְזֶה nbze one-being-despised וְלאֹ u·la and·not ־ -  נָתְנ nthnu they-give עָלָיו oli·u on·him ד ה eud splendor-of . And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries. 21 ת מַלְכ mlkuth kingdom בָא  u·ba and·he-comes לְוָה בְ ַ b·shlue in·ease וְהֶחֱזִיק u·echziq and·he-cmakes-steadfast ת מַלְכ mlkuth kingdom ת< חֲלַקְלַ ַ b·chlqlquth in·the·slick-dealings : : ת 11:22  זְרֹע  u·zrouth and·armed-forces-of 6 טֶ- הַ ֶ e·shtph the·overwhelmer  טְפ - יִ ָ ishtphu they-shall-be-overwhelmed פָנָיו / מִ ְ m·l·phni·u from·to·faces-of·him And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant. 22  בֵר - וְיִ ָ u·ishbru and·they-shall-be-broken # וְגַ u·gm and·even נְגִיד ngid governor-of רִית ְ brith covenant : : 11:23 * מִ u·mn and·from ־ - ת ר הִתְחַ ְ ethchbruth to-sjoin-of אֵלָיו ali·u to·him ה+ יַעֲ ֶ ioshe he-shall-do מִרְמָה mrme deceit וְעָלָה u·ole and·he-comes-up # וְעָצַ u·otzm and·he-is-staunch And after the league [made] with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people. 23 מְעַט ִ b·mot in·little-of ־ - י gui nation : : לְוָה 11:24 ַ ְ b·shlue in·ease י מַ ֵ בְמִ ְ  u·b·mshmni and·in·ones-stout-of מְדִינָה mdine prov
J. B.

God Is Still Holy and What You Learned in Sunday School Is Still True: A Review of "Lov... - 0 views

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Hell Universalism Rob Bell Love Wins

shared by J. B. on 14 Mar 11 - Cached
  • Bell asks a lot of questions (350 by one count), we should not write off the provocative theology as mere question-raising. Bell did not write an entire book because he was looking for some good resources on heaven and hell.
  • As Bell himself writes, “But this isn’t a book of questions. It’s a book of responses to these questions” (19).
  • Bad theology usually sneaks in under the guise of familiar language.
  • ...24 more annotations...
  • Judgmentalism is not the same as making judgments. The same Jesus who said “do not judge” in Matthew 7:1 calls his opponents dogs and pigs in Matthew 7:6. Paul pronounces an anathema on those who preach a false gospel (Gal. 1:8). Disagreement among professing Christians is not a plague on the church. In fact, it is sometimes necessary.
  • This is a book for people like Bell, people who grew up in an evangelical environment and don’t want to leave it completely, but want to change it, grow up out of it, and transcend it. The emerging church is not an evangelistic strategy. It is the last rung for evangelicals falling off the ladder into liberalism or unbelief. Over and over, Bell refers to the “staggering number” of people just like him, people who can’t believe the message they used to believe, people who want nothing to do with traditional Christianity, people who don’t want to leave the faith but can’t live in the faith they once embraced.
  • Others—and they are in the worse position—will opt for liberalism, which has always seen itself as a halfway house between conservative orthodoxy and secular disbelief.
  • This is misguided, toxic, and ultimately subverts
    • J. B.
      J. B. on 14 Mar 11
       
      Clearly Bell thinks this must be a very important issue. If Bell is right, then the vast majority of Christians throughout Christian history have been teaching a misguided, toxic, and subverting gospel.... in effect, it looks like we are teaching a different gospel altogether.
  • It’s a cheap view of the world because it’s a cheap view of God. It’s a shriveled imagination
  • This bold claim flies in the face of Richard Bauckham’s historical survey: Until the nineteenth century almost all Christian theologians taught the reality of eternal torment in hell. Here and there, outside the theological mainstream, were some who believed that the wicked would be finally annihilated. . . . Even fewer were the advocates of universal salvation, though these few included some major theologians of the early church. Eternal punishment was firmly asserted in official creeds and confessions of the churches. It must have seemed as indispensable a part of the universal Christian belief as the doctrines of the Trinity and the incarnation. (“Universalism: A Historical Survey,” Themelios 4.2 [September 1978]: 47–54)
  • Universalism has been around a long time. But so has every other heresy. Arius rejected the full deity of Christ and many people followed him. This hardly makes Arianism part of the wide, diverse stream of Christian orthodoxy. Every point of Christian doctrine has been contested, but some have been deemed heterodox. Universalism, traditionally, was considered one of those points. True, many recent liberal theologians have argued for versions of universalism—and this is where Bell stands, not in the center of the historic Christian tradition.
  • Universalism (though in a different form than Bell’s and for different reasons) has been present in the church since Origen, but it was never in the center of the tradition.
  • some of these are promises to God’s people, some are general promises about the nations coming to God, and others are about the universal acknowledgement (not to be equated with saving faith) on the last day that Jesus Christ is Lord. Not one of his texts supports his conclusion.
  • Even a cursory glance at John 14 shows that the through in verse 16 refers to faith. The chapter begins by saying, “Believe in God; believe also in me.” Verse seven talks about knowing the Father. Verse nine and ten explain that we see and know the Father by believing that Jesus is in the Father and the Father in him. Verses 11 and 12 touch on belief yet again. Coming to the Father through Christ means through faith in Christ. This is in keeping with the overall purpose of John’s gospel (John 20:31).
  • Bell cites Jesus’ words in John 3:17 that he “did not come to judge the world but to save it” (160). This Jesus, Bell says, is a “vast, expansive, generous mystery” leading us to conclude hopefully that “Heaven is, after all, full of surprises.” Bell’s lean into universalism here would be significantly muted had he gone on to Jesus’ words in verse 18: “Whoever believes in him [i.e., the Son] is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.” Likewise, according to John 3:36, “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.”
  • The Greek word for “unite” is a long one: anakephalaiōsasthai. It means to sum up, to bring together to a main point, to gather together. It is like an author finishing the last chapter of his book or a conductor bringing the symphony from cacophony to harmony. It’s a glorious promise, already begun in some ways by the word of Christ.
  • The uniting of all things does not entail the salvation of all people. It means that everything in the universe, heaven and earth, the spiritual world and the physical world, will finally submit to the lordship of Christ, some in joyful worship of their beloved Savior and others in just punishment for their wretched treason. In the end, God wins.
  • If you don’t accept God’s story about the world and resist his love, heaven will be hell for you, a hell you create for yourself. We are supposed to see this in Luke 15 where both brothers are invited to the same feast but one can’t enjoy it. Heaven and hell at the same party (176).
  • The result is a simplistic formula: “God wants all people to be saved. God gets what he wants. Therefore, all people will eventually be saved.” This is a case of poor theologizing beholden to mistaken logic. If it is “the will of God” that Christians “abstain from sexual immorality” (1 Thess. 4:3), does that mean God’s greatness is diminished by our impurity?
  • If he’s right, most of church history has been wrong. If he’s wrong, a staggering number of people are hearing “peace, peace” where there is no peace.
  • Bell figures God won’t say “sorry, too late” to those in hell who are humble and broken for their sins. But where does the Bible teach the damned are truly humble or penitent? For that matter, where does the Bible talk about growing and maturing in the afterlife or getting a second chance after death? Why does the Bible make such a big deal about repenting “today” (Heb. 3:13), about being found blameless on the day of Christ (2 Pet. 3:14), about not neglecting such a great salvation (Heb. 2:3) if we have all sorts of time to figure things out in the next life? Why warn about not inheriting the kingdom (1 Cor. 6:9–10), about what a fearful thing it is to fall into the hands of the living God (Heb. 10:31), or about the vengeance of our coming King (2 Thess. 1:5–12) if hell is just what we make of heaven? Bell does nothing to answer these questions, or even ask them in the first place.
  • Some Jesuses should be rejected, Bell says, like the ones that are “anti-science” and “anti-gay” and use bullhorns on the street (8). But wherever we find “grace, peace, love, acceptance, healing, forgiveness” we’ve found the creative life source that we call Jesus (156, 159).
  • At the very heart of this controversy, and one of the reasons the blogosphere exploded over this book, is that we really do have two different Gods. The stakes are that high. If Bell is right, then historic orthodoxy is toxic and terrible. But if the traditional view of heaven and hell are right, Bell is blaspheming. I do not use the word lightly, just like Bell probably chose “toxic” quite deliberately. Both sides cannot be right. As much as some voices in evangelicalism will suggest that we should all get along and learn from each other and listen for the Spirit speaking in our midst, the fact is we have two irreconcilable views of God.
  • Bell’s god may be all love, but it is a love rooted in our modern Western sensibilities more than careful biblical reflection. It is a love that threatens to swallow up God’s glory and holiness. But, you may reply, the Bible says God is love (1 John 4:16). True, but if you want to weigh divine attributes by sentence construction, you have to mention God is spirit (John 4:24), God is light (1 John 1:5), and God is a consuming fire (Heb. 12:29). The verb “is” does not establish a priority of attributes. If anything, one might mention that the only thrice-repeated attribute is “holy, holy, holy.” And yet this is the one thing Bell’s god is not.
  • What’s missing is not only a full-orbed view of sins, but a deeper understanding of sin itself. In Bell’s telling of the story, there is no sense of the vertical dimension of our evil. Yes, Bell admits several times that we can resist or reject God’s love. But there’s never any discussion of the way we’ve offended God, no suggestion that ultimately all our failings are a failure to worship God as we should. God is not simply disappointed with our choices or angry for the way we judge others. He is angry at the way we judge him. He cannot stand to look upon our uncleanness. His nostrils flare at iniquity. He hates our ingratitude, our impurity, our God-complexes, our self-centeredness, our disobedience, our despising of his holy law. Only when we see God’s eye-covering holiness will we grasp the magnitude of our traitorous rebellion, and only then will we marvel at the incomprehensible love that purchased our deliverance on the cross.
  • The pain of hell is our fault. But it’s also God’s doing. Hell is not what we make for ourselves or gladly choose. It’s what a holy God justly gives to those who exchange the truth of God for a lie. The bowls of wrath in Revelation are poured out by God; they are not swum in by sinners. The ten plagues were sent by God, they were not the product of some Egyptian spell gone wrong. God’s wrath burns against the impenitent and unbelieving; they do not walk into the fire by themselves. Bell’s god is wholly passive toward sin. He hates some of it and says no to it in the next life, but he does not actively judge it. There’s no way to make sense of Nadab and Abihu or Perrez-Uzzah or Gehazi or Achan’s or Korah’s rebellion or the flood or the exodus or the Babylonian captivity or the preaching of John the Baptist or the visions of Revelation or the admonitions of Paul or the warnings of Hebrews or Calvary’s cross apart from a God who hates sin, judges sin, and pour out his wrath—sometimes now, always later—on the accursed things and peoples of this world.
  • Love Wins assures people that everyone’s eternity ends up as heaven eventually. The second chances are good not just for this life, but for the next. And what if they aren’t? What if Jesus says on the day of judgment, “Depart from me, I never knew you” (Matt. 7:23)? What if at the end of the age the wicked and unbelieving cry out, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb” (Rev. 6:16)? What if outside the walls of the New Jerusalem “are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood” (Rev. 22:15)? What if there really is only one name “under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12)? And what if the wrath of God really remains on those who do not believe in the Son (John 3:18, 36)?
  • Bad theology hurts real people.
  • J. B. on 14 Mar 11
     
    A thorough critical review of Rob Bell's book "Love Wins" by Kevin Deyoung. MUST READ.
angelapardie

Going Astray and Finding the Way - 3 views

Xiaobing&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Xuanzhou City, Anhui Province &ldquo;That which you are enjoying today is the very thing which is ruining your future, whereas the pain you are suffering today is th...

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Pastor Jeff Lilley

Daily Word of God: Daily Word for Tues 2/9/10 "Before I Formed You In The Womb I Knew You" - 0 views

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Jeremiah Bible God Religion and Spirituality Christianity Father JJL Ministries Pastor Jeff Lilley

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    Daily Word of God Devotionals are Powerful, Motivating, Practical and Inspiring. Written to Turbo-charge your day and stimulate your spiritual appetite and do "Whatever it Takes" to focus on Christ. Remember, "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." For Reservations at Our Fathers House, Please Enter John 3:16
Pastor Jeff Lilley

Daily Word of God: Daily Word for Sat 2/6/10 "Whay Does Everyone Need a Sign?" - 0 views

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Jesus Holy Spirit God the Father Christianity Sea of Galilee Religion and Spirituality Bible Evangelism JJL Ministries Pastor Jeff Lilley

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    Daily Word of God Devotionals are Powerful, Motivating, Practical and Inspiring. Written to Turbo-charge your day and stimulate your spiritual appetite and do "Whatever it Takes" to focus on Christ. Remember, "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." For Reservations at Our Fathers House, Please Enter John 3:16
IN Too

The Father's Good Gift « Reflections in the WORD - 0 views

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Christianity Father Father's-Day Fathers Gifts Holy-Spirit Mindset Perspective Success The-Comforter Triumph Value-System Values Worldview Viewpoint Religion Inspiration Bible-Study Bible-Teaching Blog gift Grace Love

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    As Jesus sent His disciples out into a world that would be hostile to them, that would imprison them and beat them and kill them, what they needed to succeed wasn't a new car, or perfect teeth or a retirement plan. What they needed to live successfully (as God defines it) was The Comforter. 
Pastor Jeff Lilley

Daily Word of God: Daily Word for Mon 10/12/2009 "Who is Jesus" Part 1 - 0 views

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Holy Spirit Jesus Bible Christianity God Religion and Spirituality Father JJL Ministries Pastor Jeff Lilley

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    Daily Word of God Devotionals are Powerful, Motivating, Practical and Inspiring. Written to Turbo-charge your day and stimulate your spiritual appetite and do "Whatever it Takes" to focus on Christ. Remember, "A cheerful heart is good medicine..." (Prov 17:22a) For Reservations at Our Fathers House, Please Enter John 3:16
Pastor Jeff Lilley

Daily Word of God: Daily Word for Mon 10/19/2009 "God is Bigger Than We Are" - 0 views

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Holy Spirit Jesus Christianity God the Father Religion and Spirituality Bible Solomon Evangelism JJL Ministries Pastor Jeff Lilley

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  • Pastor Jeff Lilley on 19 Oct 09
     
    "Daily Word of God Devotionals are Powerful, Motivating, Practical and Inspiring. Written to Turbo-charge your day and stimulate your spiritual appetite and do "Whatever it Takes" to focus on Christ. Remember, "A cheerful heart is good medicine..." (Prov 17:22a) For Reservations at Our Fathers House, Please Enter John 3:16"
IN Too

The Forgiveness of a Father « Reflections in the WORD - 0 views

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  • IN Too on 30 Mar 11
     
    During that week before I had confessed to my dad that I had indeed lied to him, he did not throw me out of his house; he didn't disown me or write me out of his will! I was STILL his child, but our fellowship was broken.
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We Could Not Have Made It Through If Not For You - 1 views

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All Things Work Together For Your Good! - 0 views

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    One of the most encouraging and comforting things that a Christian needs to realise and constantly remember-particularly when he's going through times of trouble, trials and tribulations-is that our Heavenly Father LOVES us, and is in absolute and total control of our lives!-And that NOTHING can happen to us without HIS will or HIS permission! So even if WE don't always understand exactly why we're going through such trials, GOD knows what He's doing! He knows all the purposes and reasons behind every test, trial, affliction etc.
Pastor Jeff Lilley

Daily Word of God: Daily Word for Fri 10/2/2009 "Are You Moved with Compassion?" - 0 views

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  • Pastor Jeff Lilley on 02 Oct 09
     
    Daily Word of God Devotionals are Powerful, Motivating, Practical and Inspiring. Written to Turbo-charge your day and stimulate your spiritual appetite and do "Whatever it Takes" to focus on Christ. Remember, "A cheerful heart is good medicine..." (Prov 17:22a) For Reservations at Our Fathers House, Please Enter John 3:16
Pastor Jeff Lilley

Daily Word of God: Daily Word for Wed 9/30/2009 "Are You Truly in Love With Jesus? - 0 views

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Jesus Christianity Religion and Spirituality Satan Evangelism Bible Lazarus Hell JJL Ministries Pastor Jeff Lilley

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  • Pastor Jeff Lilley on 30 Sep 09
     
    Daily Word of God Devotionals are Powerful, Motivating, Practical and Inspiring. Written to Turbo-charge your day and stimulate your spiritual appetite and do "Whatever it Takes" to focus on Christ. Remember, "A cheerful heart is good medicine..." (Prov 17:22a) For Reservations at Our Fathers House, Please Enter John 3:16
Pastor Jeff Lilley

Daily Word of God: Daily Word for Tues 9/29/2009 "Have You Ever Asked A "Stupid Question"? - 0 views

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    Daily Word of God Devotionals are Powerful, Motivating, Practical and Inspiring. Written to Turbo-charge your day and stimulate your spiritual appetite and do "Whatever it Takes" to focus on Christ. Remember, "A cheerful heart is good medicine..." (Prov 17:22a) For Reservations at Our Fathers House, Please Enter John 3:16
IN Too

Clothe your Children in Scarlet. « Reflections in the WORD - 0 views

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    We often miss our most important responsibility to our children: tilling/cultivating the soil of their heart (getting rid of all the growth-hindering rocks and all the life-choking weeds of distraction) and planting the seed of God's Word in it (Matthew 13:1-9, 18-23). Wisdom for living is ONLY found in the WORD of God and only the Holy Spirit can guide us through life. So, let us "clothe" our children in the scarlet Blood of Jesus Christ so that they will be prepared for the harshest winters of life.
IN Too

A Prayer for Perspective « Reflections in the WORD - 0 views

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    Heavenly Father, remind us each day that, of all the gifts you give us, the greatest gift is love… And help us to be slow to judge and quick to forgive, ready to share your patience, empathy and love.
Pastor Jeff Lilley

Daily Word of God: Daily Word for Sun 9/27/2009 "Are You Really Like Jesus?" - 0 views

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    Daily Word of God Devotionals are Powerful, Motivating, Practical and Inspiring. Written to Turbo-charge your day and stimulate your spiritual appetite and do "Whatever it Takes" to focus on Christ. Remember, "A cheerful heart is good medicine..." (Prov 17:22a) For Reservations at Our Fathers House, Please Enter John 3:16
Pastor Jeff Lilley

Daily Word of God: Daily Word for Tues 9/22/2009 "Do You Live or Walk in the Spirit?" - 0 views

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  • Pastor Jeff Lilley on 22 Sep 09
     
    Daily Word of God Devotionals are Powerful, Motivating, Practical and Inspiring. Written to Turbo-charge your day and stimulate your spiritual appetite and do "Whatever it Takes" to focus on Christ. Remember, "A cheerful heart is good medicine..." (Prov 17:22a) For Reservations at Our Fathers House, Please Enter John 3:16
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