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"Claude Almansi started a topic 7 months ago (2013-01-01) After the New release Amara 1.2.1, the Send a message link disappeared from users' profiles: it only remains present in teams' member lists. The possibility to message users who are not members of any team can be essential, for instance if their subtitles get deleted by a change in other subs for the same video (see A roll back destroys Spanish subs and messes up most other subs for PSY's Gangnam Style video and the other instances linked in that post)."

Still erroneously tagged "Planned" although I pointed out a month later that the messaging link had been restored.

"Claude Almansi started a topic 6 months ago (2013-02-10) Granted: "nick3 changed primary url from http://vimeo.com/39734142 to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2IJb1YnAmQ - 2 days, 22 hours ago [as I'm writing this]" for the video embedded in the home page of Amara.org. But http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2IJb1YnAmQ , in spite of its changed YouTube title, is still the "Learn about Universal Subtitles" video that was added to YouTube on on Oct 9, 2010, and hence to then Universal Subtitles four days later. As a result, the info on how the subtitling interface works and about accepted video formats - from 0:32 to 1:14, i.e. more than half the video - is now misleadingly obsolete. True, changing the title of the YouTube video means you don't have to bang an Amara thumbnail on the video anymore, but it changes nothing to the fact that this is a video about how Universal Subtitles was in 2010."

My comment: "However, it's interesting to see that there is NO automatic syncing between the YouTube channel [ http://www.youtube.com/user/friendlyandfun/videos ] for this video and Amara subtitles."

"Claude Almansi started a topic 6 months ago 2013-02-14 There are 3 video tutorials that appear within the subtitling widget until you instruct the widget to skip them, and sometimes even when you do: for transcribing, syncing and revising. Paradoxically, they themselves are not subtitled. And then they refer to an old version of Universal Subtitles, before editing the title and description of the video was integrated as step 3 of the widget. So they should be updated, subtitled, and linked to in the corresponding step, instead of embedded in theoretically skippable intermediate pages. This would be most useful for people who are deaf (1) or don't know English. "

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"Claude Almansi started a topic 2 months ago (2013-06-14) [Update July 2, 2013: the original title of this discussion, as posted mid-June 2013, was: "Let's beta-test the imminent new subtitle editor before it is released". In fact, on June 6 Dean Jansen had announced it's release for "in the next week or so", then on June 14 he wrote that the new editor was "still very much in beta, [...] still under heavy development", mentioning "necessary confirmation tests and modifications to ensure a smooth transition". (...) I suggest that questions about how the editor works be added in comments to this thread. But for reporting possible bugs and issues I made a Google Drive form , whose replies go into a spreadsheet that can be viewed, downloaded and commented on by anyone who has the link (no sign in required). This way Amara developers too should be able to download it e.g. as .csv file and reuse the data in whatever beta-testing program they are using on their own. It is important that we actual subtitlers beta-test innovations to the Amara software, because developers, not being subtitlers themselves, cannot properly assess the impact of some changes they make: see the Team moderation: let's learn together from the Friday 13 team thread."

Google Drive form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1x_akD-_fBW4aRPoJq4jyG07OQ5GAGYdZxEjbgTogaXI/viewform Google Drive spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApuzSw0MoY82dDlPYnB3cUlwQlNJV2VVWS1XSy1DSWc#gid=0 Forum topic about the Friday 13 team: http://support.amara.org/support/discussions/topics/5241

"In some video pages where the video language had been selected before the June 29, 2013 upgrade of the Amara software, this selection has been deleted after (by?) this upgrade. " I only listed 29 instances drom 2 sources because I got bored, but I pointed to other sources likely to yield heaps more of other videos where the video language got unselected"

"Claude Almansi started a topic 9 months ago (2012-11-10) Mystery meat navigation where links are hidden and only appear when you mouse over them may be esthetically tempting for designers, but it's a pain for users in general and it excludes users with motor and sight disabilities, as well as those using mobile devices. So please replace such hidden, mouse-over only links by their former directly visible version. Two examples (but there might be more): "Decline task" in videos added to teams who enforce workflowed tasks Actions bottom-right of messages in Amara messaging. Update Nov. 14: the screenshot in the How can I decline a task page in the Amara teams part of the Solutions section here still shows the directly visible version of the "Decline" button"

No Amara reply Comment: See your own How compatible is Amara with Dragon NaturallySpeaking? FAQ - http://support.universalsubtitles.org/solution/articles/49647-how-compatible-is-amara-with-dragon-naturallyspeaking-

"Claude Almansi started a topic 5 months ago (2013-03-15) It would be nice if there were a search tool for subtitlers' profiles, on the model of the one for videos in the Watch page or in teams' video page, but with different criteria. I.e. something like: Search box: "Search subtitlers" 1st filtering criterion: "who have made subtitles from (droplist of languages)" 2nd filtering criterion: "into (droplist of languages)" 3rd filtering criterion: "covering more than (droplist with > and some duration values) minutes of video." This way, people who need subtitles for a given video could view various members' profiles fitting the chosen criteria, check some of their work, then contact them - also for paid subtitling. I take it our subtitling activity produces the data corresponding to these criteria, somewhere in the Amara server? In the unlikely case of privacy issues with this proposal, having one's profile included in such a search tool could be made opt-in."

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"Claude Almansi started a topic 15 days ago (2013-07-14) In some video pages where the video language had been selected before the June 29, 2013 upgrade of the Amara software, this selection has been deleted after (by?) this upgrade. Example http://www.amara.org/en/videos/rVHqxPbw8m90/info/importare-un-file-opml-in-bloglines/ . [Note: this is the same video mentioned in the The URLs of several subtitle sets have changed. Another aftershock of the June 29, 2013 upgrade? topic, because its subtitles have been affected by this change of URL. The issue with its language selection was also pointed out to me by luciab] When I started the original Italian subtitles for this video on May 24, 2013, I selected Italian as the language of the video. This selection was still working when awemaze translated these Italian subtitles into English , French and German on May 25, 2013. But when I checked it on July 12, 2013, because of luciab's comment on my blog, the language selection had been deleted. And it's still deleted now. Consequences: The player in http://www.amara.org/en/videos/rVHqxPbw8m90/info/importare-un-file-opml-in-bloglines/ , which should show the Amara Italian subtitles with "Italian subtitles" preselected in the droplist below it, now doesn't show Amara subtitles and the droplist says "Select Language. See attached novideolanguage_mainplayer.jpg . Only the YouTube subtitles (in red in the attachment) show, not the Amara subtitles. When the Create a new translation! link below the player is clicked, the dialog box requests that the video language be selected and t

Several links to affected video pages, in the rest of the topic and in comments.

"Ezar Soeparman started a topic 15 hours ago (2013-07-28) Hi, I just recently found out about this site and as I was watching, I somehow couldn't load the English subtitle when it said that it is complete. But when I try the Greek one, it loads very quickly but the thing is, I don't speak Greek! I was watching Fatmagul episode 26 part 2 and the subtitle never loads. I waited for hours on end and it wouldn't load. But the Greek one only took five seconds. Episode 26 part 2 cannot. Episode 27 part 1 and 2 cannot. (it kept going back to turkish when I have already clicked the english one.) Episode 28 part 1 and 2 cannot aswell. Please tell me. My internet connection is quick enough to fully load the video so it's impossible that it isn't quick enough to load the subtitle. Thank you."

Related to Eri Pançi's "My subtitles doesn't open or noone subtitles doens't open??!! :(((" - http://support.amara.org/support/discussions/topics/28007 ? But in Eri's examples, there had been no subtitles in the defined video language, and when I started them, it became possible to select and display the other existing subtitles. Whereas in the one video I perhaps identified from Ezar's "Episode 27 part 1" description - http://www.amara.org/videos/1JeMDQ7uLtr4/info/fatmagulun-sucu-ne-27bolum-part-1/ - there are subtitles in the defined video language, Turkish, and the issue only affects English, British subtitles: the other subtitle sets can be selected and displayed. I've asked Ezar to give the URLs for the other videos he mentions.

"Claude Almansi started a topic 10 minutes ago (2013-07-30) Proposals for the elimination of theses paradoxes and issues The paradoxes and issues described above could be eliminated by an approach to deletions directly based on copyright law and Amara's Terms of Service: A) Proposal for the deletion of subtitles: The only persons allowed to delete - or entitled to request the deletion of - a set of subtitles must be its author and the right holder on the video. As per Amara's Terms of Service, section 5: the author of the subtitles cannot delete them if the deletion would also delete or mess up the work of other people (co-subtitlers, people who have translated the subtitle set). Team admins / owners can only prevent subtitlers from deleting subtitles they made for the team's videos, but only if this is explicitly specified in the team's description. B) Proposal for the deletion of Amara video pages The only persons allowed to delete - or entitled to request the deletion of - an Amara video page must be the person who created it and the right holder on the video that streams in it. As per Amara's Terms of Service, section 5: the creator of the page cannot delete it if other people have already started to create subtitles for the video that streams in it, unless s/he is also the right holder on the video. Could Amara developers create software rules that would allow users to delete their subtitles and the video pages they've created, with the restrictions explained in these two proposals? A 3. (the restriction in favor of team owners/admins) might be a bit of a headache, technically. But it should be feasible by adding something to the /settings/permissions/ page of teams AND by making these permissions settings automatically viewable by all."

"András Fuchs started a topic 6 months ago (2013-02-20) My team of translators often finds itself in a situation when the original transcript is out of sync, missing, misspelled or shows something other than what the speaker said. Sometimes we fix the English subtitle as well, but then the other subtitles in different languages which are already started (or finished) might have problems. It would be great to combine the subtitle versioning feature (planned to implement) with subtitle rating and/or approval. Amara should limit the translators in a way, that nobody could start a language specific subtitle until the original transcript is 100% finished and approved by let's say at least 3 independent users (or even native speakers). I think this step would increase the quality of the subtitles greatly."

Dean's rely: "... We've thought some about the idea of requiring a translation to be complete, before allowing translations to be based from it. However, in certain cases it is better to allow translation directly from the dialogue in a video. For example, during the Arab spring, we had a number of politically sensitive videos which were done in spoken Arabic - for the translators, speed was the most important thing, so needing to wait for an Arabic transcript, before they could translate into English, would have been a major disadvantage. We are working towards a simplified system for peer review that will first appear on teams and later become available for every video. ..." Mine: mentioned problem with autocaptions in the - now deleted - Coursera team.