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Jeremy Vogel

Texas petition to secede from the union awaiting comment from White House - 1 views

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    What year is this, 1860? That was certainly my first thought when I heard that 32 states -- yes, more than two thirds of our beloved union -- are currently petitioning the White House with requests to secede from the United States." Here is a link to the actual petition (not sure if there was one in the article): https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B
Bryan Pregon

Petition for Texas to secede from US reaches threshold for White House response - U.S. ... - 5 views

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    We should all know this is not going to happen. This is more of a state tantrum about wanting their state rights back. Personally I agree completely with the states that are doing this because the federal government is way past the boundary. The federal government is in place to protect us from others not are self's.
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    it says clearly that andrew johnson made it so no state for any reason could secede from the union,their will be another election in 4 years o if everybody would just relax and chill everything will be fine
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    I think this is just a way of Texans and those other states to show their frustration with the government
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    There are now three other states; Florida, Georgia, and Louisiana, that have reached the required 25,000 signatures on We the People to prompt a response from the White House. I am just waiting to see how the White House will respond to any of the four petitions.
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    they must think that they can do it better then the normal government. so if they think they can and if the fail they fail if not then good for them.
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    i think the white house will respond with a no
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    i think there only trying to do this because there mad that Obama won , and that he will lead the state in to bigger dept.
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    If the proclamation says the states can't separate they would need to rewrite it and make a new set of laws, also what would happen if they fail at a new government? would they just want the US of america to take them back?
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    I think that this will never happen. Although they might not believe that being apart of the U.S. benefits them, It truly does.
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    it would never happen but it will be interesting to see if any changes happen in response to this
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    I don't think this is going to happen but it is still pretty scary that people are that mad at the government. I think that people always blame the government when they are not happy. If we didn't have the government we would be in more trouble than we are in now. Yes our economy is getting hard and we need more jobs. But some people are lazy and should not make the government pay for everything.
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    I believe that Texas would do well in its own government, but it would be better to keep the 50 states.
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    Texas is probably just upset with the turn out of the election therefore just trying to create their own government to get what they think deserve.
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    I'm not sure if the point of the article is, "Why Texas wants to Secede." I'm moreover focused as to, if it will happen, and if it is a right of the state to leave the Union. Personally, I would say it is the right of a state to decide if they want to secede. Let us look at the tenth amendment. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. The state has over 80k people who signed a petition asking for a secession. If this is the majority, our 10Th amendment would likely give the state the right to secede, as long as 50.1% of the population wished to secede. (Doubt that they actually have a majority that wishes to secede.) In English: The 10Th amendment grants the states the right to secede if the majority of its population sees fit. This is caused by the lack of detail in the constitution. The lacking detail being whether or not the states have the right to secede. (Founding father: Let's put state secession here next to gay marriage and abortion!) Anyways, as long as the majority of Texans wish to secede, I doubt there is any way that the United States could actually tell them they could not, at least not without some sort of conflict.
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    I have to be . . . not serious here. Just a word of advice to the states who want to secede, based on what happened in the Civil War: If you secede, you won't succeed.
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    Payton I think the Supreme Court has already decided in Texas v White that States can't unilaterally secede from the government. They have the right to secede through revolution or by asking the other States and getting their permission. At least that's how I read the ruling. Unless there is a newer ruling on secession then Texas v. White. "When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State. The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact; it was the incorporation of a new member into the political body. And it was final. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States. Considered therefore as transactions under the Constitution, the ordinance of secession, adopted by the convention and ratified by a majority of the citizens of Texas, and all the acts of her legislature intended to give effect to that ordinance, were absolutely null. They were utterly without operation in law."
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    Jeremy, what am I trying to state, is that states do have a right to secede, because we are not in a perpetual agreement to join the union. It was perpetual during the Articles of Confederation, the supreme court ruled that they have do not know if the constitution. "It was confirmed and strengthened by the necessities of war, and received definite form and character and sanction from the Articles of Confederation. By these, the Union was solemnly declared to 'be perpetual.' And when these Articles were found to be inadequate to the exigencies of the country, the Constitution was ordained 'to form a more perfect Union.' It is difficult to convey the idea of indissoluble unity more clearly than by these words." English: The Articles of Confederation declared it to be a perpetual union. The Articles of Confederation no longer exist. The supreme court literally state that they are going by ground of the Articles of Confederation, a.k.a. not a valid ground to take a stance upon. Now, if we look in history. plessy v. ferguson was a supreme court case that was overturned. This case can be overturned. Also, Jeremy, your understanding is correct on most of it. But from what the case as a whole states, under the Articles of Confederation, what you states is Valid. The Court ruled this with the usage of the Articles of Confederation. (Personally, do not think you should be able to do that, and that the courts ruling is a mistake.) Finally, I am simply stating the states have a right to secede if they want to, this is because the constitution, and not the articles of confederation, is vague about the idea of secession, applying the 10th amendment, the states should have a right to secede if they have a majority of people, unless we plan to be a hypocritical society that has already forced others to use the policy in which most people want to deny.
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    I think this in an interesting topic. The idea of states attempting to secede from the union is mind blowing. We know our government is faulty and far from flawless... but in comparison to others, we find it to be the strongest. We defend such a government, yet there are states that want to withdraw from it! I would actually like to look into this topic a little more, so I can understand all factors in the state's decisions!
Bryan Pregon

The Senate has forced a vote to restore net neutrality - The Verge - 0 views

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    "Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA) and 32 other Democrats have submitted a new discharge petition under the Congressional Review Act, setting the stage for a full congressional vote to restore net neutrality. Because of the unique CRA process, the petition has the power to force a Senate vote on the resolution, which leaders say is expected next week."
brandonprice94

Macy's Is Defiant As Petition To Dump Trump Nears 600,000 Signatures - 0 views

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    I think that Macy's should drop Trump because he obviously doesn't make the company look good. Because he always has his outbursts about his opinions that aren't always necessarily nice ones. They're his opinions and people might think it's also Macy's opinions but that's not the case.
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    donald trump is a rich rich rich rich rich man so he should stay with macys to keeep them in buisness
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    How do you know he didn't become so wealthy by stealing from the company?
williamdoner

'Deport Justin Bieber' petition reaches 100,000+ signatures - 1 views

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    Do you belieb that one of Canada's biggest exports could be deported as a result of his recent Miami arrest? The possibility is slim. Nevertheless, less than a week after it was first posted to the government's "We the People" platform, over 100,000 Americans have signed a petition asking the Obama administration to revoke Bieber's green card.
Jeremy Vogel

Westboro Baptist Church Says It Will Picket Vigil For Connecticut School Shooting Victims - 1 views

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    The Westboro Baptist Church, the controversial group known for protesting outside funerals of slain U.S. service members, announced that it will picket a vigil for the victims of Friday's Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, the second-deadliest school shooting in American history.
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    KC news is reporting on petitions to have the Westboro Church classified as a hate group and remove their tax exempt status as a "church" http://fox4kc.com/2012/12/17/westboro-meets-its-match-thousands-sign-retaliatory-petitions/
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    I don't condone the activities of this group but they have freedom of speech and the right to do whatever they want with it no matter how hateful it is and people could have private funerals
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    They should leave people be, to bad they most likely never will, Because the parents can't even stop them without likely being sued by Westboro.
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    I do not agree with their way of think about homosexuals. I think that the church should mind their own business in their own sate. The parents and everyone should just ignore the Westboro Church.
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    i think we should ignore the group otherwise we are giving them the attention they want.
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    It is sad that this church will stoop this low to get their (totally invalid) point across. They are a bunch of idiots if you ask me.
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    I think that they have the right to be there, but they should understand that this is not a good time to do this. They should understand how hard it must be for their parents, and would feel the same way if one of their children died. I also do not agree with the fact they blame homosexuality for all the problems and say God hates America. In reality God does not hate anyone because we are all his children.
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    I can truly see the side of the Westboro Baptist Church but it does not mean that I agree with it. I find that America itself has quite a few strange beliefs itself defended by these rights. I don't have any means to go against these rights.
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    I think that they have the ability to not allow the Church to protest.
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    I'm all for free speech. But I think there should definitely be a line drawn as where freedom of speech ends.
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    I hope they lose their tax-exempt status. Here's an article with more information on their 501(c)3 status and how they could lose it. http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/westboro_baptist_churchs_tax-exempt_status_challenged_20121218/ Personally, I think their protests are clearly staged with the intent to influence politics. (They want gay marriage outlawed)
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    well if the parents know they are gonna protest have the funeral be private so they can't protest
Bryan Pregon

Alabama death row inmate Vernon Madison gets reprieve - CNN - 5 views

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    "Given Alabama's rejection of judicial override, the death sentence in this case constitutes cruel and unusual punishment and violates Mr. Madison's rights to a jury, fair and reliable sentencing and to due process and equal protection of the laws as guaranteed by the Fifth, Sixth, Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments of the United States Constitution and Alabama law," they wrote in their petition."
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    I understand that Madison has become mentally ill and doesn't have memory of the crime he committed, but he still committed the crime and was sentenced to the death penalty at first. However, due to an Alabama law no longer allowing the death penalty I think life without parole would be a good alternative for him.
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    "Mr. Madison suffers from vascular dementia as a result of multiple serious strokes in the last several years, and no longer has a memory of the commission of the crime for which he is to be executed," How does this make the crimes he has committed go away?
Payton Whiteaker

Is Secession a right? - 1 views

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    I found this interesting after seeing the petition to secede article. After all, many have berated Abraham Lincoln for defying the rights of the states, and this is an interesting point of view on the idea of a state seceding from the US.
Christina Constant

SOPA Blackout: Wikipedia, Google, Wired Protest 'Internet Censorship' - 0 views

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    Go to Wikipedia's English home page and it will look like its regular self for a second, but then -   Wikipedia's English-language landing page. Go to Google's homepage, and you'll find its logo blacked out. If you click on the black box in its place (or the link below the search box), you'll be led to an invitation to petition Congress: "End Piracy, Not Liberty."   Google's homepage.
evelyn_white316

Clinton consumed with Russian meddling, she writes in new book - CNNPolitics - 5 views

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    I don't think Hiliary had the right to go and meet the Russian president like that and then write a book on how much she didn't like Trump. When I don't like someone and they make my skin crawl I can't do anything about it but since she is rich and former White House 1st lady she can?
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    You actually can do things about it. And yes, she can. She is allowed to say that Trump made her uncomfortable.
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    I actually think almost the exact opposite. While I think Hilary went a little overboard, she had every right to do so, as stated in the first amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." And if it wasn't in Hilary's right to write that book and state her personal opinions on this matter, then what gives us the "right" to bring back nazis and treat others as second class citizens, saying it's all opinion and just exercising their free speech? And yes, you could do something about it, and many people are doing something about it. Hilary is just much more likely to get noticed and was noticed by the press because of her status.
Bryan Pregon

ALHS students at the city council - 43 views

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    Regardless of where you end up on this issue, it is good to see young people taking part in government for our own community.
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    I can't believe they say were too young to understand. Just because were in high school we too young. its not right.
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    I am proud of Emily for standing up for what she wanted. Not many people would be brave enough to do something like that..
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    i think that its really brave of emily to stand up for what she wants and thinks that is the best. Not a lot of people would do it. But she is standing up for others and her opinion.
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    I understand where he is coming from saying high schoolers are too young to understand this. This topic is all about money, where it is coming from, how much money is needed, how much they will get from it. We do not know what goes on behind the scenes of this deals. Maybe instead of saying we are too young he should of said we are uninformed.
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    I like what Brice said, "we are just uninformed."
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    I hate to say it but i have this intense urge to slap City Council member Matt Walsh...what because we are young we automatically don't understand? More like we have more on our minds then politics and gaining support by being popular with business owners.
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    we have the right to say what we need to say. People have the right to say that they should not be in a public place or anywhere.
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    I also think its good that students are trying to make good points on why they shouldnt own the MAC. There taking a part in this and trying to stop it. But will it help? We will see later on....
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    If he has enough gumption to tell Emily that he is disappointed in her for collecting signatures from uninformed student then he should have enough knowledge to know that we won't know whats going on if we aren't educated on this topic and that it is the generations above us job to educate us and pass on what they have learned to the younger generation. So if he is disappointed in Emily then he should also be disappointed in himself for not doing his job.
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