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People project dogma because they experience dogmatic personalities in Alcoholics Anonymous, and that makes sense. Often dogma comes from pain and brokenness. In response to my difficulty, I might create a whole crazy rule structure to how I have to be… …and if I go too far down that road, I might create a whole crazy rule structure about how you have to be.

Dogma is not something that I want to get rid of in alcoholics anonymous. On some level, what it means to be a person in recovery, who's engaged in traditional 12 steps is to have some sense of acceptance, that you are not in charge of the world.

When you see it in the literature of Alcoholics Anonymous, you notice that these were people who were not only NOT particularly dogmatic, but they were also sensitive to the fact that people would be sensitive to dogma.