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Elaine Yi

北美中文网 - 基金经理Peter Lynch的投资智慧 - 0 views

  • 时机并不重要
  • 身边就是信息来源。 ¨ 不偏执于某个行业或概念 ¨ 增长股,再生股,特性股,周期股的结合
  • ¨ 重要的是选股。真正重要的是选股。 
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  • 每一次买入,都应该有一个能够说服自己的理由。
  • 随处留心新事物,以期发现新的投资主意
  • 龙美尔的“先开火,再瞄准”
  • 索罗斯的“先投资,在研究”
  • #先投资,再调查
  • 而且特别注意坏消息
  • 而从实践的角度讲,一些基金经理无法击败市场最重要的原因,在於: #许多基金设置了严格的规范,例如对某一个行业的最高投资比例不能超过多少,对某一家公司的最高比例不能超过多少,更重要的是,互惠基金不能放空,只能利用“谁是好公司”的信息,无法利用“谁是差公司”的信息。这些严格的规定,在降低风险的同时,限制了基金取得更高的回报。  # 许多基金经理受到庞大的职业压力,不得不跟随潮流,而很难独立于潮流之外。而投资成功最重要的一点,正是独立于潮流之外。例如,在99年的加拿大基金经理当中,没有买入北电(NT)的,可以说绝无仅有。背后的道理很简单:北电(NT)如此炙手可热,如果一位基金经理敢于不买入北电(NT), 会冒极大的职业风险。做多北电(NT)失败,则大家都是失败者,基金经理不会承担更多的责任;而如果不买入北电(NT),而北电(NT)又的确大幅上升,则基金的回报几乎一定会弱于大盘,这名基金经理的职业生涯也许会因此结束。如果基金是由经理委员会来管理,独立于潮流之外,就更加困难了。 开放式基金为準备投资者的赎回压力,一般都会保留一定的现金。现金比例越大,对业绩的拖累越厉害。同时,一些大型基金不容易发现足够多的投资对象,也较难快速实现自己的投资决策,都可能导致囘报率的降低。
Elaine Yi

The Fine Art of Value Investing - William Miller of Legg Mason Value Trust - Interview ... - 0 views

  • My best investments usually involve an opinion about a company that the rest of the world doesn't share or adamantly disbelieves or doesn't focus on.
  • focus on inventory control and return on capital.
Elaine Yi

The Fine Art of Value Investing - William Miller of Legg Mason Value Trust - Interview ... - 0 views

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  • I'm analyzing businesses instead of stock factors.
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      so is Warren Buffett
Elaine Yi

Meet Mr. Market (SmartMoney Magazine) | SmartMoney.com - 0 views

  • And that wasn't psychologically congenial to me either, because I have no discipline. I just sort of wander around the overall in search of things.
  • I had read a bunch of stuff on investing ever since I had gotten interested: Supermoney, about Ben Graham and Warren Buffett; Graham's Intelligent Investor; Security Analysis; David Dreman's Psychology in the Stock Market. Combine those books and those approaches, and what you have is basically a contrarian, value-based methodology, which, psychologically, was very compatible with the way I tended to think about things. I tend to think stocks are more attractive at lower prices rather than higher prices.
Elaine Yi

Meet Mr. Market (SmartMoney Magazine) | SmartMoney.com - 0 views

  • buying low-expectation stocks, buying higher-dividend-yielding stocks, staying away from things with high expense ratios, and most important, the key thing would be — as Warren Buffett says — you need to be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful. So when the market's been down for a while, and it looks bad, then you should be more aggressive, and when it's been up for a while, then you should be less aggressive. And I think also, most importantly, people need to think long term. People tend to react and not anticipate. And what they react to is what they wish they'd done a year ago, or two years ago.
  • And the last thing I'll say is that the whole growth/value distinction has become rigidified. Most value people tend to own stocks that are cyclically underpriced. Most growth people own stocks that are secularly underpriced: #2things that can grow for long periods of time. > Our portfolios historically tended to be, though I wouldn't say they are now, better diversified along both cyclical and secular lines. And our portfolio tries to look at underpricing or mispricing along both of those dimensions so that we're not caught in one or the other.
  • things that can grow for long periods of time.
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  • free up your thinking about things.
  • Our portfolios historically tended to be, though I wouldn't say they are now, better diversified along both cyclical and secular lines. And our portfolio tries to look at underpricing or mispricing along both of those dimensions so that we're not caught in one or the other.
  • Expectations were extremely high. There was a high probability that at some point, expectations would not be realized and the stock would get killed. Across the entire space, expectations were too high.
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      Buy when the expectations are low and sell when extremely high.
Elaine Yi

Meet Mr. Market (SmartMoney Magazine) | SmartMoney.com - 0 views

  • What is the return on marginal capital for InterActive's group of businesses
  • China is a huge secular story. By that I mean the long-term direction of the market is clear, even though in the short term there may be setbacks. It's cyclically extended, it looks like. And just as you pointed out, there's so much written about it that, I think, this has probably led to some overextension of investment into areas that probably don't warrant it. The Chinese economy is about the same size as the Italian economy. People don't get too worried about what Italy's doing. Of course, China's got a faster growth rate. And the combination of China, India, Russia, Brazil, Eastern Europe, Southeast Asian economies, that total complex of economies, together, is gonna be the source of most of the world's growth.
  • are there companies that are in China now — investing in China, or have huge growth prospects in China — that the market isn't paying any attention to?
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  • At some point, will there be a secular peak in oil production? Absolutely. Is it going to be in the next couple of years? I don't know.
  • on't buy our bonds because they like us; they buy them because it's in their interest to do so.
Elaine Yi

Meet Mr. Market (SmartMoney Magazine) | SmartMoney.com - 0 views

  • had read a bunch of stuff on investing ever since I had gotten interested: Supermoney, about Ben Graham and Warren Buffett; Graham's Intelligent Investor; Security Analysis; David Dreman's Psychology in the Stock Market. Combine those books and those approaches, and what you have is basically a contrarian, value-based methodology, which, psychologically, was very compatible with the way I tended to think about things. I tend to think stocks are more attractive at lower prices rather than higher prices.
  • And that wasn't psychologically congenial to me either, because I have no discipline. I just sort of wander around the overall in search of things.
Elaine Yi

Online Trading: Interview with Bill Miller, Legg Mason's Fund Manager - 0 views

  • The key thing would be — as Warren Buffett says — you need to be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful. So when the market's been down for a while, and it looks bad, then you should be more aggressive, and when it's been up for a while, then you should be less aggressive."
  • "Well, if you do what other people do, you get the results that other people get.So by diversifying your sources of information, you get insights, analogies and metaphors, and you see connections that other people might not see."
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      A very good point. And THINK INDEPENDENTLY
Elaine Yi

A Legend Sizes Up the Market - Kiplinger.com (Part II) - 0 views

  • A book by Katrina Firlik called Another Day in the Frontal Lobe: A Brain Surgeon Exposes Life on the Inside. It's basically an inside look at what it's like to be a neurosurgeon and a little bit about the brain. Upcoming books are The Halo Effect, by Phil Rosenzweig, and The Difference, by University of Michigan professor Scott Page. It's about diversity theory.
Elaine Yi

It's a bird, it's a plane … no, it's mild-mannered Francis Chou | | poweredBy... - 0 views

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      Loads of info about his character
  • He has only a grade 12 education and used to labor as a Bell Canada repairman. He has never worked for a big bank or a mutual fund company.
  • best mutual fund manager in Canada
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  • uiet, shy
  • he Chou Associates Fund
  • compounded returns of about 16% a year for 24 years,
  • immigrant from Allahabad, India, who came to Canada back in 1976
  • very private
  • avoids discussing his personal life
  • his father was a professor and his mother a university lecturer
  • natural pessimist,
  • one older brother, three younger sisters, all now living in Canada
  • in Canada at age 20 with $200 in his pocket, landed a job at Bell Canada, and proceeded to become fascinated by the writings of Benjamin Graham,
  • an investment club at Bell Canada in 1981
  • margin of safety
  • 0% or 50% discount
  • when his dad died (very young
  • "special situations"
  • CRAP (Cannot Realize A Profit) companies.
  • countless hours searching for well-run companies with growth potential that, for some reason, are trading for much less than they're worth.
  • strong management.
Elaine Yi

Frugal Funds: Articles - 0 views

  • The fund has been managed by Francis Chou since it went public in 1986. Prior to this it was managed as part of a private investment club. Mr. Chou is perhaps unusual among money managers in that he manages both the Associates and RRSP funds in his spare time. When he is not adding value for his investors he is a vice-president of Fairfax Financial.
  • In late 2002 the Associates fund received a $50 million investment from Fairfax, increasing the fund's assets by almost a factor of six. To avoid any potential conflicts, or the appearance thereof, Mr. Chou has entered into appropriate arrangements with Fairfax concerning trading activities. Furthermore, he is foregoing any compensation or benefits arising from his position as a Fairfax executive.
  • a contrarian deep value style with discipline. Mr. Chou favours well-managed companies that have a solid record of prudent capital management and at least ten years of sustained return-on-equity of greater than 15%. Following a self-described "Margin of Safety" credo, he also looks for a stock price that is far below what a rational investor would pay for the company. Once purchased, stocks are generally held for the long term, as illustrated by the fund's low 28% average turnover.
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  • doesn't believe in half measures
  • What good does it benefit an investor if he does not take advantage of his good ideas in a meaningful way? Good ideas are rare and may only pop up every few years."
  • As of May 14th, the minimum investment level for the fund was lowered to $10,000
  • if you buy through a discount broker you should be able to have the fund's front-end load waived.
Elaine Yi

Investment Executive - 0 views

  • . “Will I pay up for a stock? Absolutely not!” he laughs. “I would rather lose half my unitholders than lose half my unitholders’ money.”
  • claims no industry specialization
  • given that he worked as a technician for Bell Canada before he took to managing money in the early 1980s. He has since earned a CFA designation.
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  • undamental quantitative analysis and adherence to strict value-investing principles. He also finds ideas through extensive reading — primarily business publications and newspapers — looking for sectors or companies in which circumstances may have driven a good stock’s price down to an attractive level in the short term.
  • investing wonks who just want to be left alone to do their jobs,
  • Fairfax Financial Holdings Inc.
  • it’s lack of interest, not time, that keeps Chou from promoting his fund.
  • substantial positions (3%-5% of fund assets on one stock
Elaine Yi

reportonbusiness.com: He chooses the best of the bargain bin - 0 views

  • He is one of Canada's most successful mutual fund managers and also one of the most modest. At the age of 51, Francis Chou is in charge of $1.2-billion of other people's money. He is both a top stock picker and a record-setting bond manager.
  • half a dozen co-workers chipped into a pool that totalled $51,000 and created the fund that became Chou Associates.
  • The original investment club was converted to a mutual fund in 1986 and, over the next 20 years,
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  • Mr. Chou, who works alone,
  • I do not invest in commodities," he explained. "I also avoid high-tech stocks -- I call them 'high wrecks.' I do not like real estate in general and, frankly, I do not even like the bond and stock markets."
Elaine Yi

Vinvesting.com | Investing Ideas and Insights - 0 views

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