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    Blog about the blogging experience and how its topic makes it less popular than common blogs today.
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    This site offers hundreds of creative writing prompts for those writers who are suffering from writers block and need a topic to direct their writing. 
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    Federal resource page for teachers. Ideas and resources broken down by subject.
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  • Beckett had met him through a friend and wanted to make sure Lonelygirl15 didn't get them sued for deceiving the public.
    • dracmere
      dracmere on 13 Feb 08
       
      This was a good idea on their part. It would be bad if they were successful and then got sued by somebody.
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      could this been seen as mocking vloggers out there? hmm...
  • The phenomenon is partly driven by technology – Lonelygirl15 wouldn't exist without the explosion of broadband and the advent of YouTube – and partly by the appeal of a hybrid form of storytelling. Lonelygirl15 is a mashup of homemade video diary, soap opera, and mysterious, hint-laden narrative like Lost. It's all the more engrossing because viewers can correspond with the characters and even affect the plot. For Flinders, it's a thrillingly uncharted creative landscape, and he has no interest in abandoning it for the tired conventions of film or television. Rather, he wants to be the JJ Abrams of the Internet.
    • maureen
      maureen on 14 Feb 08
       
      I'm floored by this whole concept. I think this is one of the best new uses of technology as a writing space, acting environment and interactive literacy playground.
  • Welcome to the set of Lonelygirl15, the breakout Web hit that, in September, was unmasked by fans as a work of fiction.
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  • But there was an important difference: A Hollywood movie is understood to be fictional. Vlogging on YouTube is not. Plus, to fully harness the medium, they intended to carry on email correspondences with YouTubers while posing as Bree.
    • butler09
      butler09 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This seems kind of deceptive, in my opinion, especially when they realized what might be against them. On the one hand, it's wrong to make people think you are what you aren't when there is no way to note the fact it is ficiton, yet on the other hand, I don't know if they ever would've gotten the start they did without taking the steps they took.
  • Almost everything in the room was bought from Target on the same day, and the price tags are still hanging from some of her stuff. The closet is filled with men's clothing, and in the corner two guys huddle around a laptop and stare at the webcam feed.
    • Elizabeth Somer
      Elizabeth Somer on 12 Mar 08
       
      I like this whole idea of making your own TV show on the Web. It makes me wonder if TV will be renamed and some acronym for computer show will replace it. Podcasts? Is that what they are? If some one can tell me, let me know!
  • webcam willing to listen
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      this sounds like half of the people on youtube, talking into the camera and wishing someone would listen....similar to bloggers.
  • When he got to college, Flinders dreamed up an alter ego – an awkward, geeky homeschooled girl. As a camp counselor, he told fireside tales about her experiences. He wrote short stories about her, and when he tried to make it as a writer in Hollywood, he put her in his screenplays.
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      Being that he was beat as a kid you would think that he would have made his character cool and not awkward a geeky. This would be a way he could escape what happen to him.
  • But nobody bought his scripts: Agents and producers didn't think much of the character he had created. After working a few years as an assistant to an independent director and struggling to stay out of debt, he left town and moved in with his grandmother in Merced. He supported himself by writing a draft of a film for an aspiring producer in Maryland; it was about a serial killer.
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This shows that eventhough he did not sell any of his scripts at first that he did not quit.
    • needle10
      needle10 on 13 Apr 08
       
      This just goes to show that you need to be aware of who your audience is in order to get your message (or in this case, your creation) out for the public to view.
  • Together, with next to no budget, they have created a show that illuminates the future of television.
    • needle10
      needle10 on 13 Apr 08
       
      If this "show" is the future of television, I won't need to invest in a TV or cable anymore because I think this is ridiculous and not entertaining.
Jessica Bloom

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  • You make movies for the big screen, sitcoms for TV, and something else entirely for the Internet.
    • dracmere
      dracmere on 13 Feb 08
       
      He makes a good point. You have to make something to fit the media medium you are making it for. In terms of writing you wouldn't write a poem for a whole book, unless it was a really long poem.
  • He wanted to create shows in which the line between reality and fiction is blurred, where viewers can correspond with the characters and actually become involved in the story by posting their own videos.
    • dracmere
      dracmere on 13 Feb 08
       
      This is an interesting idea that I think internet users will love. Being able to finally interact with what you are watching instead of shouting at the TV with no results is something everybody can enjoy.
  • "It's a new medium. It requires new storytelling techniques.
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 13 Feb 08
       
      The more I kept reading this article the more I undertand, from the beginning I was just kind of freaked out that people could make this huge reality show on the web and it could be fake.
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      this is true....i mostly watch tv shows online now b/c i miss them on their regular air times. people are so involved in the net now that they would probably embrace a web-based show.
    • haines64
      haines64 on 13 Apr 08
       
      This is a really important point to realize. In this course, we continually talked about how writing technologies are constantly changing. The storytelling mediums are going to continue to change. For example, this is why so many people watch TV shows online. It'll be interesting to see how mainstream this idea becomes in the near future.
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  • Beckett tried to explain to the executive that the central theme of online entertainment was interactivity, as opposed to the passivity of television.
    • maureen
      maureen on 14 Feb 08
       
      To me, this is an example of the cultural lag most of us are experiencing. Executives, typical of the white male dominating elites, are not ready to embrace this new video storytelling technology. Blurring the lines between reality and fiction is groundbreaking storytelling. We participate in interactive video games via our computers, why not interactive storytelling. Again, this whole concept to me is absolutely brillant!
  • each portal wanted the series to stream on its site only.
  • Unlike television, where writers sit in a room and come up with a single script, the Lonelygirl15 team comes up with a general plotline and then sends its writer-directors out to produce independent but interconnected videos. All the characters, in essence, have their own show.
    • maureen
      maureen on 14 Feb 08
       
      Collaborative video storytelling.....who would have thought!
  • It's enough to keep the operation afloat until they can find a way to take serialized online entertainment to the next level.
  • The exec responded by walking them through his fall lineup and pointing out that the network's Web site had great supplemental video material for the season's upcoming shows.
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Apr 08
       
      I think that Beckett is on to something, but the TV world just isn't ready for it yet. I think that we may see shows similar to "Lonelygirl" soon, because people want to be involved and participate in what they watch. Why do you think that shows such as Dancing with the Stars and American Idol are so popular? It's because everyone gets to be their own judge in a way. Also, they develop "relationships" with the contestants. They want their favorite singer to win or their least favorite to get booted off. Successful shows such as these are highly interactive.
  • If it couldn't be shared – if hard borders were put around it – how different was it from TV?
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Mar 08
       
      I think that this feature is what made so many people interested in it before, and led them to be currently interested. There were no boundaries with this show. It's creators were free to do whatever they wanted with the show. This is part of what made it different from an ordinary television show.
    • daydreamr97
      daydreamr97 on 13 Mar 08
       
      So, Internet as a writing space remediates early TV as a writing space, which was at the time remediating radio as a writing space. Only later did innovations for each particular space come to exist.
  • The way the networks look at the Internet now is like the early days of TV, when announcers would just read radio scripts on camera.
  • f it couldn't be shared – if hard borders were put around it – how different was it from TV?
  • If it couldn't be shared – if hard borders were put around it – how different was it from TV? If this was going to be the first successful Internet TV show, they felt it needed to embrace the medium
    • daydreamr97
      daydreamr97 on 13 Mar 08
       
      It must have been a tough choice for the creators to trade a deal for the freedom to screen their shows wherever they want, but it only makes sense. The designed the series for a writing space that was based on sharing, so signing exclusively with a website would defeat the point.
  • Flinders can't write and film them all, so new writer-directors have been hired and paired with actors playing the new characters.
    • daydreamr97
      daydreamr97 on 13 Mar 08
       
      Interestingly enough, while this separate collaboration doesn't happen in TV or film, it does happen with longer book series. For example, Star Wars books are authorized by George Lucas but written by multiple people. Sometimes single series within that larger group are written by different authors.
  • What's needed, he says, is content that's built specifically for the Web. It doesn't need to be lit like a film – that would make it feel less real.
    • daydreamr97
      daydreamr97 on 13 Mar 08
       
      Oddly enough, this idea contradicts the remediation theory. Instead of saying, "it's like film, only [insert difference here]," they're saying it's unike film.
  • Beckett tried to explain to the executive that the central theme of online entertainment was interactivity, as opposed to the passivity of television.
    • butler09
      butler09 on 13 Mar 08
       
      There's a big difference here before the standard of television and today's internet. Interativity is a lot more involving, and a person can grow more emotionally attached as opposed to the "passivity of television." Emotional attachment equals addicted viewership, which equals popularity and success of the show. It's really an ingenious new medium for the entertainment industry to consider.
    • Jessica Bloom
      Jessica Bloom on 16 Apr 08
       
      I do not thing it's a good idea to blur reality and fiction. As we saw in "A Rape in Cyberspace," problems arise when you mix VR and RL.
  • 9 Unlike television, where writers sit in a room and come up with a single script, the Lonelygirl15 team comes up with a general plotline and then sends its writer-directors out to produce independent but interconnected videos. All the characters, in essence, have their own show.
    • butler09
      butler09 on 13 Mar 08
       
      That's an interesting concept to consider when you think about it. By having separate vlogs, you're able to give separate points on view on different "issues" going on in the characters lives, and it makes the audience feel like they can relate even better. Some movies give you the first-person-point of view, so you know exactly what one person is thinking (like Bree), but you don't know the mind of the other characters (like Daniel). By giving them their own "spotlight," the viewers can form a greater attachment and interest in the stories presented.
  • 13 They don't have a big TV deal, or even a big Internet deal, but they're convinced that what they're doing is important anyway. And they're still here, in Flinders' bedroom. Rose leaps onto the bed and jumps up and down.
    • butler09
      butler09 on 13 Mar 08
       
      Even after people realized that the story was fictional, they still retained their viewership, and that really testifies to the success they had. But even then, Beckett and Flinders didn't choose to "sell out" on the idea; they've kept it as they intended it, and I think that's a pretty important thing to observe. They didn't try to modify it to fit onto the big screen so that they could earn even more money from it.
  • This Web series not only looks different, it's made differently than other filmed entertainment.
  • They don't have a big TV deal, or even a big Internet deal, but they're convinced that what they're doing is important anyway.
  • outing benefited from the publicity surge and pushed a few of Lonelygirl15's clips close to the million-viewer mark.
    • haines64
      haines64 on 13 Apr 08
       
      I guess any publicity can be good publicity.
  • Emails flooded in – Amanda now responds to roughly 500 a day. The show has a reliable viewership of 300,000 per video, and the team posts two, sometimes more, each week.
    • Danielle Rabello
      Danielle Rabello on 16 Apr 08
       
      It didn't seem to matter whether she was real or not in the end. People wrote to her and contacted her regardless, and now she i watched more than ever. People become angered at being tricked, but fascinated all at once.
  • supplemental material is boring.
    • anonymous
      anonymous on 17 Apr 08
       
      I don't think it has to be boring. If you are really creative you can make it interesting.
    • Melissa Foster
      Melissa Foster on 17 Apr 08
       
      The concept that this is a whole new form of entertainment seems totally spot on. People treat YouTube differently than they do television. It kind of seems like an evolved reality show phenomenon.
    • Bianca Pieloch
      Bianca Pieloch on 17 Apr 08
       
      It wil soon blow up. Everything starts out small-if they get enough views it will go big sooner than later.
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  • $500 a week to play Bree full time
    • dracmere
      dracmere on 13 Feb 08
       
      I wish I got paid that much. Thats pretty cool for her to get paid to be on Youtube. Just more evidence that Youtube is taking over.
    • Gail Ramsey
      Gail Ramsey on 17 Apr 08
       
      I wonder if that was tax-free money. I don't think $500 would be enough for me to run around hiding from everyone. This girl seems to be so trusting and naive.
  • But the fans – raised on the unreality of reality TV and with the role-playing ethos of the Web – seemed to take the revelation in stride.
    • dracmere
      dracmere on 13 Feb 08
       
      Seems like viewers treated like a regular show. I know if I was a viewer I wouldn't of cared. If something entertains you then just because it isn't real doesn't mean it will stop entertaining you.
    • jc ice
      jc ice on 17 Apr 08
       
      True the whole point of entertainment is to captivate you, but it still has to be something tht you can identify with and that speaks to you. She obviously spoke to a lot of people so the fact of whether it was real or not didn't matter in the message.
  • several people noted that everything in Bree's room seemed to come from Target
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 13 Feb 08
       
      That is amazing that people really looked that deeply into the veidos.
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  • It hadn't taken them long to figure out, by trial and error, what worked in this new genre. Viewers wanted family and relationship drama mixed with a rich, mysterious backstory that could be explored and debated.
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 13 Feb 08
       
      The more I read the more interesting it sound, it is to bad they could not have just admitted from the beginning that they are just trying to get a web tv type show. People would still watch if it was interesting enough.
    • kimmerzx0 C
      kimmerzx0 C on 12 Mar 08
       
      People want something they can relate to and many teenagers have family problems.
    • jc ice
      jc ice on 17 Apr 08
       
      By not telling the audience whether this character was real or not, everyone automatically assumed that she was real. Maybe it was just realistic casting. This is like an online mockumentary but instead of being viewed by a small group of followers gained an enormous following almost instaneously.
  • In return, she had to stay home as much as possible and wear sunglasses and a hat when she went out. For Rose, it was a dream come true – she was a working actress. She just couldn't tell anyone.
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 13 Feb 08
       
      Yes making 500 dollars a week is okay for a 27 year old, but I would personally hate the fact that I'd have to keep my identity hidden all the time, and couldn't tell anyone what was really going on, that has to get stressful.
    • jc ice
      jc ice on 17 Apr 08
       
      This is so old hollywood. During the filming of Gone With The Wind, the studio forced Vivien Leigh to live separate from her husband to continue the illusion of her being a single eligible southern belle. Also, many of the studios knew then and still use the practice now of setting up known gay actors with romances to throw the public off. I think the studios care more about this than the public does now, but the practice still goes on to this day.
  • The YouTube community was sucked into the plot and speculated endlessly about Bree's faith. Some thought she was Mormon; others insisted she was a Satanist. Another group tried to figure out where she lived: The leading guess was somewhere in the Midwest. Viewers spent hours Googling the possibilities and posting their results on YouTube.
    • maureen
      maureen on 14 Feb 08
       
      Brillant! Getting the community sucked into the plot is big, but getting the community to start speculating about the plot is even bigger. When people start speculating, a dialogue occurs and from that dialogue the speculation spreads like a virus, which in turn promotes more interest in Bree and more viewers to follow the story.
  • Fair enough," the fan wrote back, and then went on to tell Bree the latest news in his life. To many, it didn't seem to matter whether she was real or not. A number of posts appeared on YouTube denouncing the series, but many more responded with variations of this simple statement: If you don't like it, don't watch.
    • maureen
      maureen on 14 Feb 08
       
      Who cares whether she was real or not. The purpose of watching the videos is for entertainment and to get in on the new wave of storytelling.
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      it is interesting that people would get to the point that they would correspond with her. I can understand why if they thought she was real, but after that, I'd think to continue would be strange
    • jc ice
      jc ice on 17 Apr 08
       
      I think when people find a connection with someone, real or imagined, it gets in touch with something inside of them that reaches out. This maybe is the whole point of cyberspace, to reach outside of who we are and try to connect on a difference level
  • ithin 48 hours, the video had half a million views.
  • That couldn't have happened on television. A conventional TV episode airs once at a certain time; even if it's great, it can only serve to attract viewers to future episodes. On YouTube, a video can be streamed at any time.
    • hughes27
      hughes27 on 14 Feb 08
       
      This is a good point. I never thought about how youtube videos are basically in the hands of its viewers
    • coffma46
      coffma46 on 15 Feb 08
       
      Yes many of the YouTube videos show what work and what doesnt work according to how good the video is.
  • The good ones are watched again and again, sending a clear message about what works and what doesn't. When "My Parents Suck …" broke 500,000 views, Beckett and Flinders realized this wasn't just an experiment or a setup for a film.
    • Melissa Foster
      Melissa Foster on 17 Apr 08
       
      It's amazing how addicting things like this are. Even though people have already viewed the "episode," they return to it. Maybe they're hoping to find out more about her? Perhaps it became part of the investigation into who she is. To me, it's a little reminiscent of releasing DVD versions of television shows.
  • Meanwhile, the online celebrity started spilling over into the real world. Rose was browsing for a book in Santa Monica after "My Parents Suck …" was posted and noticed two girls watching her closely. That night, Amanda received an email from a fan: "Hi Bree. My friend and I thought we saw you at the Barnes & Noble in Santa Monica, but it couldn't be you, right?"
    • Elizabeth Somer
      Elizabeth Somer on 12 Mar 08
       
      This attention as I mentioned before can be both positive and negative. It raises concerns
  • If you want to talk to Jessica Rose, you can go to her MySpace page. If you want to keep talking to Bree, use this email."
    • Elizabeth Somer
      Elizabeth Somer on 12 Mar 08
       
      The character and the actress need to separate. It's dangerous when the two become fused.
  • The editing was too sophisticated and the music too well integrated,
    • kimmerzx0 C
      kimmerzx0 C on 12 Mar 08
       
      This was the only aspect that threw me off from thinking it was real.
  • IN EARLY SEPTEMBER, MATTHEW FOREMSKI, the 18-year-old son of a Silicon Valley tech reporter, dug up an old version of Rose's MySpace page. She'd deleted it when she became Bree, but Google cached a copy, and Foremski posted the link to his father's blog. Within 48 hours, The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and a slew of TV stations ran the story. The jig was up.
    • haines64
      haines64 on 13 Apr 08
       
      This just goes to show how the idea of privacy has changed in a technology-oriented society. As Vaidhyanathan talks about in his article, we can always be tracked somehow given the technologies we use daily.
    • jc ice
      jc ice on 17 Apr 08
       
      This idea of always being tracked just makes me nervous. I am such a private person when it comes to certain things. I will tell you 90% of my life story, but that last 10% is mine. I think about that about that alot in relation to all of the sites that I belong to and subscribe too. They probably have more information on me than my own mother knows and there really is no way to exist without it.
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      people like the idea that they are watching reality, hence the fascination with dating shows and reality tv. they feel closer to the characters and the experience. we feel a need for shared experiences.
  • hadn't taken them long to figure out, by trial and error, what worked in this new genre. Viewers wanted family and relationship drama mixed with a rich, mysterious backstory that could be explored and debated. > The YouTube community was sucked into the plot and speculated endlessly about > Bree's faith. Some thought she was Mormon; others insisted she was a Satanist. > Another group tried to figure out where she lived: The leading guess was > somewhere in the Midwest. Viewers spent hours Googling the possibilities and > posting their results on YouTube. >
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      people like the idea that they are experiencing reality. we liked the shared experiences with others...it makes us feel more human to witness them occurring in someone else's life.
  • explored
  • (One viewer annotated each item with its SKU number.) Could it be, one fan wondered, that the whole thing was an elaborate ad
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      it is amazing that people get so involved and look so far into this. when i go on youtube, i am looking up a music video, i don't latch onto a series.....are there more like this on youtube?
    • zimmer67
      zimmer67 on 13 Mar 08
       
      Who actually has the time to watch something that intently and notice the SKU number on background items in a video? that borders on obsession
    • haines64
      haines64 on 13 Apr 08
       
      Reading up until this point, I kept thinking how creepy the creators were. Now I'm thinking they played into their target audience very well. They were able to create online videos that attracted such a faithful audience (possibly crazy with too much time on their hands as well, but nonetheless) willing to go over every detail.
    • jc ice
      jc ice on 17 Apr 08
       
      Just goes to show you what you can accomplish with a well dressed set. Iam still so fascinated by the public's love for stuff like this. I guess it brings out the voyeurism in all of us in what many consider a safe outlet.
  • lucrative career as a surgeon before he started making little videos and posting them online.
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      it seems crazy that he would give up a career, any career let alone being a surgeon, to start an unpaid youtube series. what was in it for him?
  • Miles, it's time you quit being a doctor," he said. "We just passed 200,000 views."
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Mar 08
       
      Although, I am not really for what these men did, I do give them credit. They took a risk, and it proved to be revolutionary for both the Internet and You Tube. It changed the way that many people view, You Tube. They created a story which captured the lives of many audience members. This must have been a great feeling when they realized that their story was changing the world.
    • jc ice
      jc ice on 17 Apr 08
       
      This is so war of the worlds. People assuming that what they are seeing and hearing is real because they are seeing is depicted as real. If this was on ast teeno'clock on a Thursday night we would not assume the same thing.
  • When viewers suggested that he had a crush on Bree, they changed the story line to include a romance.
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This is interesting, because the Internet does allow the audience to interact with the content presented. In the Lonelygirl's story, viewers were able to present all types of ideas and feelings. This, in turn, allowed them to feel connected emotionally, much more than if they watched a reality television show. This is what they believed to be a "real" person who cared about their imput and feedback.
  • #4 The YouTube community was sucked into the plot and speculated endlessly about Bree's faith. Some thought she was Mormon; others insisted she was a Satanist. Another group tried to figure out where she lived: The leading guess was somewhere in the Midwest. Viewers spent hours Googling the possibilities and posting their results on YouTube.
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This is a great way to keep people comming back alway make them wonder what is going to happen next.
  • "I don't want you to ever set foot in another TGI Fridays," he said, explaining that he'd pay her #14 $500 a week to play Bree full time . #13 In return, she had to stay home as much as possible and wear sunglasses and a hat when she went out. For Rose, it was a dream come true – she was a working actress. She just couldn't tell anyone.
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This is something that I would have a problem with I could not stay home that much. Plus i would want to tell everyone.
    • alieraisu1
      alieraisu1 on 13 Mar 08
       
      Now this is ridiculous. Did she not see she is losing her life to this? Come on, she's a young adult and if she plays this character on a Youtube video she has to stay home in the dark and not have a life? This is totally ridiculous! Where are her parents in all of this? Her friends? What's going on here?
  • so his father, a marketing executive at an IT company, agreed to invest in the newly formed Lonelygirl15 production company. Beckett immediately called Rose
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      It is a good thing that his father gave him the money because if not she would have started to work at Fridays and they could not have used her in the series.
  • but Google cached a copy
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This shows that you can never really escape from things there is always a trail.
  • #17 "I don't want you to ever set foot in another TGI Fridays," he said, explaining that he'd pay her #16 $500 a week to play Bree full time . #15 In return, she had to stay home as much as possible and wear sunglasses and a hat when she went out. For Rose, it was a dream come true – she was a working actress. She just couldn't tell anyone.
    • butler09
      butler09 on 07 Apr 08
       
      That's about the most unusual proposition available for an actress, isn't it? It's kind of hard to believe she even agreed to it at first, especially since she wasn't even paid! And even once she was, she couldn't tell? Her career changed her lifestyle, though not in the way it usually tends to for celebrities.
  • It was a medium in its own right.
    • Danielle Rabello
      Danielle Rabello on 16 Apr 08
       
      Again, demonstrating how convenient Youtube it. As Americans, we want instant gratification.
  • It hadn't taken them long to figure out, by trial and error, what worked in this new genre. Viewers wanted family and relationship drama mixed with a rich, mysterious backstory that could be explored and debated.
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      Sure it worked, it plays out like a soap opera. Look how many years Erica Kane from "All My Children" survived on TV. People love the suspense and drama that unfolds in the world of others
  • IN EARLY SEPTEMBER, MATTHEW FOREMSKI, the 18-year-old son of a Silicon Valley tech reporter, dug up an old version of Rose's MySpace page. She'd deleted it when she became Bree, but Google cached a copy , and Foremski posted the link to his father's blog. Within 48 hours, The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and a slew of TV stations ran the story. The jig was up.
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      This should make the Internet users more cognicient that nothing is ever ireally private. You need to be aware, if it is out there, anyone can gain acess to your infomation.
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  • Don't sell merchandise and don't use any copyrighted music without a license. If people buy Lonelygirl15 stuff thinking she is real, they could claim false advertising and sue.
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 13 Feb 08
       
      I guess that was smart that he thought that much into, but it still doesnt sit right with me. When I watched the viedos I couldn't help but think how fake it all was.
    • zimmer67
      zimmer67 on 13 Mar 08
       
      I don't feel creating a fan base based on lies is the best way for a young film maker to start his career.
    • alieraisu1
      alieraisu1 on 13 Mar 08
       
      Really quick here: isn't it false advertising? They made a series of FAKE videos about a girl. It's all scripted... but no one says that out loud... isn't that false advertising?
  • It was a sly move: Post a video that comments on an already-popular vlogger and piggyback on the existing audience.
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 13 Feb 08
       
      Deffinitley a smart tactic, I commend him on his genious ways, he most be a intelligent person, writing skits and planning this all.
  • But he did persuade her to meet again the next day. It was at a crowded coffee shop – she figured she'd be safe. Beckett showed up alone and explained the plan this way: The project was a sketchbook for a film. If it was a success online, they could go to the studios and use the material as a screen test for both her and the story. That seemed to soften her. This was just a stepping stone to a feature film. She decided to give it a try.
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 13 Feb 08
       
      At least that shows that lonelygirl has respect for herself. I don't no anything about these veidos except for what is on here, so I didn't no if she did anything inappopriate and that statement shows she isn't a so called "veido whore".
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  • Her character is also deliberately crafted to target the Web's most active demographics. Nerds geek out on the idea that this beautiful girl lists physicist Richard Feynman and poet e. e. cummings as heroes. Horny guys respond to the tame but tantalizing glimpses of her cleavage. Teenage girls sympathize with her boy troubles and her sometimes-stormy relationship with her strict parents. Early on, viewers started emailing to offer advice and sympathy. Others wanted to talk dirty and discuss mathematical equations.
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 13 Feb 08
       
      Yes it is nice that all different types of people can relate to her...but they were not relating to a real person, so that could of really upset them when they found out it was fake. That could cause someone to do something out of hand.
    • goulds28 gould
      goulds28 gould on 14 Feb 08
       
      The point is that people were relating to the story. It was what held their interest. Whether or not she is fictional is unimportant. The fact that people were interested in this is what made it so substational to the future of "tv on the internet"
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      i noticed that they did this....they have every boy's dream...a beautiful nerdy girl who isn't afraid to be herself....not sure how much girls would like her though...
    • kaeanne
      kaeanne on 13 Mar 08
       
      She's extremely cute. I watched the three videos on the side of the first page, and I can see why people would think she's adorable. However, the things she does and says seems a little immature for me, maybe that's the point but I don't see why people would tune into her like they apparently do. I just don't know...
  • As Bree, she struck up friendships with people in Sweden, Scotland, Ireland, Portugal, Australia, Mexico, and all over the US.
    • goulds28 gould
      goulds28 gould on 14 Feb 08
       
      Thats the difference with having this series on the internet, it is worldwide not only reaching select television networks.
  • Now Beckett and Flinders had made her sign a nondisclosure agreement and, clearly pleased with themselves, told her that they wanted her to play the lead in what they billed as the future of entertainment.
    • Jennifer Dougherty
      Jennifer Dougherty on 18 Apr 08
       
      The people on Survivor and the Bachelor and any other show that ends prior to the last air date must sign agreements of nondisclousure so that the ending is not revealed. How is this any different. This actually makes me think about the movie The Truman Show with Jim Carrey.
    • hughes27
      hughes27 on 14 Feb 08
       
      These characteristics are doing exactly what is intended to do. Just from the small three video's that i have watched so far, im interested to watch more.
  • The title of the video was "My Parents Suck …," and she explained that her religion prevented her from doing things that other kids did. Still, she felt that her parents had gone too far when they said she couldn't go on a hike with Daniel. It was the first time Bree was emotional on camera.
    • Melissa Foster
      Melissa Foster on 17 Apr 08
       
      This change really brought drama to the plot, but I can see how the mystery drew people in. I remember thinking the Law & Order episode that was based on this story was intriguing since it implied a future for this type of entertainment.
  • In fact, Beckett and Flinders hadn't even found an actress to play the part.
    • coffma46
      coffma46 on 15 Feb 08
       
      SO, Lonelygirl15 wasn't sure if this was a scam or not? Did she even look into it first?
  • It was exactly what her acting coaches at Universal Studios' film program had warned her against: unkempt producer-types hawking shady deals.
  • THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT JESSICA ROSE that the webcam loves. Her distractingly large eyebrows and small round face are bent and stretched by the fish-eye lens into a morsel of beauty that fits perfectly in a pop-up window. That's not to say she isn't pretty off camera – she is – but every step she takes closer to the cam multiplies and enhances her looks. It's a face made for the browser screen.
    • Aaron D
      Aaron D on 25 Mar 08
       
      I can see that. =D
    • coffma46
      coffma46 on 15 Feb 08
       
      So Jessica Rose had to be pretty to be on camera...that is not right. If the person has something to say...let them no matter what.
  • As Bree, she struck up friendships with people in Sweden, Scotland, Ireland, Portugal, Australia, Mexico, and all over the US. > She never offered much information about her character. Rather, she'd research an emailer's
    • coffma46
      coffma46 on 15 Feb 08
       
      Doing this screen play was also a way for her to meet new people and to keep in contact with people she already knew.
  • The previous week, one guy had offered her a part in a movie if she would use her student ID to buy him discounted film at Kodak
    • Elizabeth Somer
      Elizabeth Somer on 12 Mar 08
       
      These people are receiving instant fame. Like any celebrity there are positive and negative consequences. While Youtube may have in fact helped this actress's career, it could have also easily shattered it
  • A day or two after that, a new user named Lonelygirl15 posted an animated scene of a dinosaur stomping on a house, intercut with Emily's original videos.
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      good segueway.....pretty inventive and it would get vloggers interested
  • Emily's fans loved it and offered a deluge of comments, giving Lonelygirl15 instant cred. Viewers praised this funny, creative new vlogger, encouraged her to keep the videos coming, and signed up to receive her future clips.
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Mar 08
       
      I can't believe that people would actually get so involved in this. When you think about it, it's kind of ridiculous. It's as if people don't value their lives enough that they have to rely on someone else's story for entertainment. Then, after all of that, they find out that it's fictional. I just think that this was very deceptive.
  • . #15 The previous videos had gotten between 50,000 and 100,000 views after a week, but this one logged 50,000 in its first
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This is very interesting and shows a huge jump in popularity.
  • The previous videos had gotten between 50,000 and 100,000 views after a week, but this one logged 50,000 in its first two hours.
    • needle10
      needle10 on 13 Apr 08
       
      The amount of people that view the "diary videos" from LonelyGirl15 is not surprising to me because there are many shows on television these days that I thought no one would ever watch and yet millions do.
  • Goodfried's advice was simple. "If anyone asks point-blank if you're real, don't answer the question," he said. "Don't lie to people. The answer is no answer. In my mind, it's the equivalent of not lying. But if people talk to Bree like she's Bree, that's fair game."
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This is something that happens all the time were someone is asked a question and they just don't answer it or they change the subject. I had never thought of it from a legal stance though.
    • Gail Ramsey
      Gail Ramsey on 17 Apr 08
       
      I am still not sure how legal not answering the question is. In the series, she is saying she is a certain individual. How is that different than if someone asks via email? Most likely, the dollar issue is the one you could get in trouble for because that would bring in false advertising.
  • #8 The previous week, one guy had offered her a part in a movie if she would use her student ID to buy him discounted film at Kodak
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This to me is something that would seem very weird. I do not think film is that expensive so i would not see why he would do this. I would probably have a bad feeling about it.
  • It sounded a lot like porn.
    • alieraisu1
      alieraisu1 on 13 Mar 08
       
      I would have bacxked out right then and there. It sounded shady to me too, and I wouldn't have gone along with it. I wonder why she did.
    • Aaron D
      Aaron D on 25 Mar 08
       
      You know it really could have been. But Beckett and Flinders probably backed out on their original idea when they were afraid of lossing her. =P haha
  • they could claim false advertising and sue.
  • commune-raised screenwriter a green light to unleash Lonelygirl15 on the world.
    • Jen Fitzgerald
      Jen Fitzgerald on 13 Mar 08
       
      This guy was raised on a commune with twelve other kids. He's just trying to find any way to stand out, even if it is creepy. He really thought through the process and made sure to cover himself.
  • (one called her an "attention whore" and another a "video slut"),
    • Jen Fitzgerald
      Jen Fitzgerald on 13 Mar 08
       
      I've noticed how quick people are to post vile and insulting things. They don't care who will see their remarks because they can hide behind their screen name. Cursing seems like less and less of a taboo online. I don't think this is a good way to share with our peers.
  • But this first clip laid the groundwork for everything that was to come.
    • Aaron D
      Aaron D on 25 Mar 08
       
      You can really tell in the advansment in the editting techs. from the first clip to the later ones. the style of the program evolves
  • A day or two after that, a new user named Lonelygirl15 posted an animated scene of a dinosaur stomping on a house, intercut with Emily's original videos.
  • 9 The previous videos had gotten between 50,000 and 100,000 views after a week, but this one logged 50,000 in its first two hours.
    • butler09
      butler09 on 07 Apr 08
       
      People want to hear the dramatic, soap opery issues. Like with the YouTube video of "boom goes the dynamite," people enjoy looking at videos of people in distress, whether emotionally or socially. Plus, the title itself relates with the emotions a lot of teens feel. "My Parents Suck . . ." It's a title a lot of kids probably want to put on their life story at some time or another. It's no wonder it was so popular.
  • "If anyone asks point-blank if you're real, don't answer the question," he said. "Don't lie to people. The answer is no answer. In my mind, it's the equivalent of not lying. But if people talk to Bree like she's Bree, that's fair game."
    • needle10
      needle10 on 13 Apr 08
       
      This is kind of like politics. Don't answer the question, avoid it, and no one will get in trouble.
  • JESSICA ROSE WAS SUSPICIOUS and frankly a little pissed off. She had come to this organic-tea shop to discuss what she thought was a feature film called Children of Anchor Cove.
    • needle10
      needle10 on 13 Apr 08
       
      Can you blame her? This is all very sketchy. And it's kind of ironic that they lured her to get involved in this "project" under false pretenses and the whole project itself is a lie.
    • Gail Ramsey
      Gail Ramsey on 17 Apr 08
       
      I wonder how many other young actresses they tried this on before they found her? I can not image trusting these guys like she did. Exspecially when they eventually told her they would film in a private house in a bedroom.
  • a hand puppet named Purple Monkey
    • anonymous
      anonymous on 17 Apr 08
       
      I never played with hand puppets when I was 16.
  • Rather, she'd research an emailer's MySpace page and ask questions about their life. They responded enthusiastically and helped spread the word about the amazing new YouTube vlogger named Bree
    • Joan Vance
      Joan Vance on 17 Apr 08
       
      OMG, how crazy is that?!?! I'm surprised no one else has commented on this particular part. I can't believe Amanda looked up people's myspace pages. My page is private but it still makes me skeptical. Maybe I should delete my myspace and facebook. Who wants people to know everything about them?
    • Gail Ramsey
      Gail Ramsey on 17 Apr 08
       
      I agree. That is scary. I don't really see getting upset that the video was a fake but to get into friendships, email conversations and investigate people . No that crosses a line somewhere that is not acceptable. Those conversations were past just a unique new entertainment.
  • Don't sell merchandise and don't use any copyrighted music without a license. If people buy Lonelygirl15 stuff thinking she is real
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      How does this justify the fact that the story line is flasified? Is this not false advertising? They are misleading the viewers.
    • Jennifer Dougherty
      Jennifer Dougherty on 18 Apr 08
       
      I follow the Big Brother blogs. They are full of people who follow the live feeds. The houseguests are not permitted to sing any song because of this copyright issue. Watching the feeds, the stuff that is only seen over the internet, you can here producers come on and ask houseguests to "please stop singing" anytime they break into song. It's pretty amusing sometimes.
  • Teenage girls sympathize with her boy troubles and her sometimes-stormy relationship with her strict parents.
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      This is where this can get really ugly. Young girls who make a connection with her, only to learn that it is all lies. This could cause some serious emotional repurcussions.
  • The previous videos had gotten between 50,000 and 100,000 views after a week, but this one logged 50,000 in its first two hours.
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      I am not surprised. In our troubled world, people like to feel that they are not alone in the way they feel. They tend to gravitate towards people who have problems. It makes their own more bearable.
  • Rather, she'd research an emailer's MySpace page and ask questions about their life. They responded enthusiastically and helped spread the word about the amazing new YouTube vlogger named Bree .
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      Okay, so where does this invasion of privacy end? It is like you are standing in the nude for the entire web to view.
    • Melissa Foster
      Melissa Foster on 17 Apr 08
       
      it's interesting how the same viewers who degraded Emily embraced Lonelygirl15. I wonder if it has to do with her created persona. As they discuss later, it did appeal to a certain demographic on the web.
    • Bianca Pieloch
      Bianca Pieloch on 17 Apr 08
       
      This is how they draw people in. When they see someone is upset and trying to deal with a problem, the viewer is drawn in. Humans like to see others besides themselves with problems.
  • For Amanda, it was a welcome departure from her day job, where she answered phones and handled the demands of high-powered stars.
    • Jennifer Dougherty
      Jennifer Dougherty on 18 Apr 08
       
      Isn't this what most of us long for-a chance to be someone else, even if only for a bit? Think about it, I know when I was younger, I played dress up and pretended to be someone else. Even as an adult writer, I create characters that are not like me. They are from me, but are not me. Sometimes I am a child in my stories, sometimes an elderly man, sometimes I am even an anilmal or a bug, or a fairy, or a princess. The point is, it is an escape from reality, a vent, a form of release.
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      broder07 on 04 Mar 08
       
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    • coffma46
      coffma46 on 14 Feb 08
       
      In a way Youtube is like watching youself everyday, but when watching it, you are doing the same thing every time. Youtube can be intertaining and educational at the same time. You can so much information by what topics you type in.
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  • YouTube will survive
    • dracmere
      dracmere on 13 Feb 08
       
      I believe that one day Youtube might take over the TV. I personally have heard my mom saying she wishes she could just watch Youtube on TV. This would also allow companies to put commercials inbetween videos.
  • Wait. You haven't seen it? Ohhhhmygosh! I'll email you the link."
    • goulds28 gould
      goulds28 gould on 14 Feb 08
       
      I have experienced this exact scenario, and felt pressured to spend more time browsing videos on youtube rather than flipping through channels on television. It is simply more entertaining. And if you are not up to date on the latest videos you are often lost in conversation with peers.
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      youtube is great b/c it does have the short clips which you can send to people....they can watch it then or save the link for another time....it is simply more convenient
    • anonymous
      anonymous on 17 Apr 08
       
      This was how I learned about YouTube. The video was "The Landlord" with Will Ferrell.
    • jc ice
      jc ice on 17 Apr 08
       
      I have to admit, I am right there with everyone watching these and if someone sends me a link, I will watch and pass it on everytime. But what are we saying about quality and art with all of this? Has the world so changed that we can only find ourselves within the little eye on the top of our computers?
  • 1 YouTube will survive
    • patunya
      patunya on 16 Feb 08
       
      I definetly agree with the fact that You Tube will survive, so many people watch You Tube, it's unbelievable. My boyfriend for one gets on my computer and watches a few You Tube videos everytime he comes over. I've even seen my brother and friends put You Tube videos on their My Space and another is I've put You Tube on my blog site.
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  • YouTube is basically going under the assumption that there's this community in place to blindly create content on YouTube's behalf without much in the way of compensation."
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 12 Mar 08
       
      This is what worries me about all of this "free say" and "free expression" online. These websites are making it very easy for others to copy or steal ideas, sometimes without the true creator's knowledge. Currently, there really aren't any copyright laws about this, because no one really knows what to do about these problems.
  • What Uncle Miltie and the Super Bowl and Survivor have always offered is something to talk about at the water cooler, at the nail salon, or on IM.
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This is quite true. We love to talk about what's going on in Hollywood, on reality shows, and the Internet. It gives us something to talk about, something to relate to with each other. With the Internet, we are able to actually show others what we are talking about.
  • For instance, if you are, say, Meow Mix, and you bought ads adjacent to cat-related videos, how surprised and disappointed you might be to learn you have sponsored a YouTube video uploaded by someone named mrwheatley and titled "exploding cat." Or the one from qu1rk89 titled "exploding cat." Or this one: "ma907h eats dead cat," which shows a guy … oh, never mind.
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This is interesting to think about. These "themed" and tagged sites do offer problems for advertising companies. Because thousands of new videos are being posted on You Tube, it is often hard to control and monitor what is posted.
  • Will advertisers risk associating themselves with violence, pornography, hate speech, or God knows what lurks out there one click away?
    • butler09
      butler09 on 13 Mar 08
       
      True. Entertainment on the web is vastly different than what is found on television, especially when specific channels can boast specific content. Advertisers might not be aware of what it is they are working with when using YouTube. They like to syncronize ads with content of similarity; if you don't know the content, you don't know if the ad is appropriate for the respective viewer.
  • #2 Will advertisers risk associating themselves with violence, pornography, hate speech, or God knows what lurks out there one click away?
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      I do not think that if i was an advertiser i would associate myself with these things. They are uselly things that turn people away.
    • haines64
      haines64 on 25 Mar 08
       
      As much I would hope that advertisers would not associate with these types of things, I am not so sure they would shy away. Look at what airs now on reality TV shows. Eventually, if the general public doesn't act in an uproar over something, I think the advertisers will latch on.
    • Jessica Bloom
      Jessica Bloom on 16 Apr 08
       
      I know there is a lot of risk when advertisers associate themselves with violence, porn, etc... but the truth is, is that is what sells and gets the most attention. People don't wanna hear boring, everyday issues. They want drama, and lots of it. So, if that means incorporating violence, hate, or God, then I bet they will.
  • that so many people are already on YouTube
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This is true people will stick with what they know and are comfotable with.
  • Everyone else wants to see what everyone else is seeing and enjoying."
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This is very true when something gets really popular everone wants to see it even if they do not injoy it.
    • haines64
      haines64 on 13 Apr 08
       
      While this is true, I also think a lot of people want others to see them. The notion of people wanting to have their 15 minutes of fame should probably not be overlooked when talking about why YouTube is here to stay.
    • jc ice
      jc ice on 17 Apr 08
       
      I think this is really true. But I also think that in some ways it is beginning to delute certain genres. Everyone thinks they can make a movie now and the fact that you can make a digital movie doesn't mean it was worth making. Director's like Scorsese spend years honing their crafts and this instantaneous everyone is a star atttitude dimishes artists like this. And i must admit, i will watch the stuff on Youtube for hours at a time, but i never see these clips as anywhere near the quality of a seasoned film maker.
  • Advertisers and brands are enormously risk averse,
    • Jen Fitzgerald
      Jen Fitzgerald on 13 Mar 08
       
      These videos could produce very specialized advertising. Those that would pose these types of videos can be targeted by morally ambigious advertisers for very specific products or services. That is scary.
    • Jessica Bloom
      Jessica Bloom on 16 Apr 08
       
      I know there is a lot of risk when advertisers associate themselves with violence, porn, etc... but the truth is, is that is what sells and gets the most attention. People don't wanna hear boring, everyday issues. They want drama, and lots of it. So, if that means incorporating violence, hate, or God, then I bet they will.
  • Supan insists that YouTubers have done an excellent job of policing their own space
    • haines64
      haines64 on 13 Apr 08
       
      Is this really true though? A few paragraphs before, the article talks about the futile attempts to remove copyrighted material from YouTube. If the users are okay with posting videos that result in copyright infringement, are we really to be believe that there is not a good number of people trying (and probably succeeding, at least on some level) to post violent, pornographic, obscene, etc videos on the site. If I were an advertiser, I'd be very hesitant to post my product where the users are "policing their own space".
  • Will advertisers risk associating themselves with violence, pornography, hate speech, or God knows what lurks out there one click away?
  • Will advertisers risk associating themselves with violence, pornography, hate speech, or God knows what lurks out there one click away? " Advertisers and brands are enormously risk averse, "
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Apr 08
       
      I'm not sure what advertisers will do about this. However, I do believe that someone will be able to find a way to reasolve this issue. There is no way that a cat food company would let their product be associated with animal cruelty.
  • And with a $177 billion total domestic ad budget at stake, nobody wants to be monkeying around.
    • Jessica Bloom
      Jessica Bloom on 16 Apr 08
       
      Everything has to be about money. No wonder it will take them so long to figure something out, even if it is really important, because one mess up could cost them billions. I hate that our world revolves around money!!
  • And prosper, despite everything, for one overriding reason: 100 million streams a day.
    • Danielle Rabello
      Danielle Rabello on 16 Apr 08
       
      Youtube isn't going anywhere, it really has only JUST begun. It will advnce just as technology keeps advancing and could someday replace television altogether. Or maybe something better than Youtube could come along?
  • "What it has going for it is its sheer size. In a fragmented world, there is a need for community and a need for massness."
    • Melissa Foster
      Melissa Foster on 17 Apr 08
       
      Again, I feel that this comes back to the concept of community. True, we sit at computers by ourselves, and it is a lonely or individual act. However, the need to feel a part of something while we're engaging in this personal act shows how much people enjoy being a part of something.
  • "There's still a desire to have a shared cultural context. We hunger for things we can discuss."
    • Danielle Rabello
      Danielle Rabello on 16 Apr 08
       
      Which is why Youtube is so convenient; we DO long to discuss things and engage. Youtube is just another way to do that and it makes discussion it easier.
  • waiting for a technological solution
    • anonymous
      anonymous on 17 Apr 08
       
      Which seems like a logical and smart action.
  • that ask members to rate each video against various quality and suitability criteria.
    • Gail Ramsey
      Gail Ramsey on 17 Apr 08
       
      I like it when there are member ratings on items. I do not see any harm in it. It would help other viewers and it would help the advertisers. It would be the viewer's choice to participate.
  • but also to make much of it available to amateur video makers in exchange for a split of ad revenue.
    • Gail Ramsey
      Gail Ramsey on 17 Apr 08
       
      This sounds like an interesting compromise. It still allows for creativity and no legal toes are stepped on. The only thing I would worry about is the details on the "split of ad revenue".
  • What Uncle Miltie and the Super Bowl and Survivor have always offered is something to talk about at the water cooler, at the nail salon, or on IM.
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      It is what all mass media banks on. Our human nature and our desire to laugh at someone or to question or speculate about something, like who is going to be the next on "Survivor" to win a million dollars.
    • jc ice
      jc ice on 17 Apr 08
       
      I think until customrs object, advertisers will associate themselves with whatever is going to sales. We have seen over and over in other media such as TV and radio that an advertiser will pull something when there is a public outcry. Where is there barometer before that? I think it''s in their pockets and their bank accounts.
    • Bianca Pieloch
      Bianca Pieloch on 17 Apr 08
       
      Humans love ANYTHING that gives us something to talk about. Youtube sparks conversations. What is cool about it is if someone hasn't seen a certain video, it is so easy to look up. The viewer can go back and view it whenever.
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  • Everyone, in the back of his mind, wants to be a star," Hurley asserts for probably the quadrillionth time, "and we provide the audience to make it happen.
    • dracmere
      dracmere on 13 Feb 08
       
      Just by looking at this quote we can see why Youtube is a success. It is true that most people want to be a star and to give them a chance is going to be a hit. Unfortantly, if you watch Youtube you can see that some people should not ever be stars.
    • zimmer67
      zimmer67 on 13 Mar 08
       
      I wonder if youtube will soon be a new recruitment tool for talent agencies. It is afterall a compilation of many different people exhibiting different talents in some aspects.
  • Fragmentation has decimated audiences, viewers who do watch are skipping commercials,
    • goulds28 gould
      goulds28 gould on 14 Feb 08
       
      This is due to programs like TiVo.
    • coffma46
      coffma46 on 14 Feb 08
       
      YouTube very much is like this. People make the weirdest videoes for people just to watch them. I have seen some videos where people were just singing or dancing around in their bedroom.
    • hughes27
      hughes27 on 14 Feb 08
       
      This is what makes Youtube so interesting, alot of it is real stuff with no acting or script involved with the added bonus that others can view your work
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  • Lots of people can now watch themselves on sort-of TV, which is pretty fun in itself. The bonus is that others want to watch them, too.
    • haines64
      haines64 on 12 Apr 08
       
      The question is if there is a danger in this. One of the kids I nanny for is fascinated with The Wiggles. When looking for a Wiggles video for him on YouTube, I cam across a family video of two little kids getting Wiggles toys for Christmas. It may be cute to send this video to the family's friends and relatives, but should the whole world have access to it, too? Everyone tells young people to protect their identity on the Internet, but then YouTube provides unlimited access to so many otherwise-personal videos.
  • NBC used Yahoo to premiere Heroes and AOL to offer sneak previews of its Twenty Good Years and Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip. And the brand-new CW Network celebrated its debut by posting for free Runaway and Everybody Hates Chris on MSN. Counting cable, dozens of networks are now making programs available online.
    • coffma46
      coffma46 on 14 Feb 08
       
      This is a nice way for people to learn another technology, rather than doing the same thing all of the time, which is just watching the television. Maybe adults of an older generation would like to learn this technology.
  • He insists he can't quite recall, you know, the $1.65 billion moment.
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 14 Feb 08
       
      Yea, you would think that would be the first thing that the founder of U-tube would know. What started your bussiness off is usally an important detail to remember
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      it is easy to see how something like this could happen- you start posting funny videos of your friends, they post of theirs, you open it up, and you have a movement...
  • "#2 Everyone, in the back of his mind, wants to be a star," Hurley asserts for probably the quadrillionth time, "and we provide the audience to make it happen. "
    • willis02
      willis02 on 15 Feb 08
       
      We discussed in class why people would want to be on Youtube. This quote here is a great example. People want their five minutes of fame. They think that because other people are watching their videos they are star because they are entertaining them.
  • Third-millennium humanity has demonstrated an interest in sifting through millions of pieces of crap produced by total strangers to discover a few gems – some accidentally entertaining ("Boom Goes the Dynamite"), some breakout performances from the previously obscure ("Treadmill Dance"), and some explorations of a new art form crackling with genius (Ze Frank, Ask a Ninja, and the guys behind Loneygirl15.)
    • maureen
      maureen on 02 Mar 08
       
      Sifting through the millions of piences of crap enables us to accidentally come upon such gems as "Boom Goes the Dynamite", "Treadmill Dane", and Lonelygirl15. Users could possibly feel a sense of discovery when finding such unique entertainment. It's like being on your own personal entertainment expedition.
  • And what if, as a bonus, the medium were able not merely to command eyeballs for marketers but to target content especially relevant to what the marketer is selling?
    • maureen
      maureen on 02 Mar 08
       
      When discussing target content relevant to what the marketer is selling, personal information is getting collected and data possibly being manipulated. Nonopticon surrounds us.
  • Until now, advertisers have underwritten mass media to reach mass audiences. Indeed, they've paid increasing premiums for the opportunity as audiences have shrunk, because even in a fragmented media world, the largest fragment – network TV – is the most valuable. But now they realize that they are losing not only mass but critical mass.
    • Elizabeth Somer
      Elizabeth Somer on 12 Mar 08
       
      I think more money is now put into online advertisements than TV advertisement. Is it fair to say that the computer is almost (that is in popularity and phenomenon (sp?)) as big of a pop culture invention as the TV was in the 50s?
  • Altogether, this stuff constitutes a bottomless reservoir of short-form video content for others to siphon off if they choose
    • Elizabeth Somer
      Elizabeth Somer on 12 Mar 08
       
      What about copy right laws?
  • "Broadcast Yourself."
  • . #7 Fragmentation has decimated audiences, viewers who do watch are skipping commercials, advertisers are therefore fleeing, the revenue for underwriting new content is therefore flatlining, program quality is therefore suffering (Dancing With the Stars. QED), which will lead to ever more viewer defection, which will lead to ever more advertiser defection, and so on.
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 12 Mar 08
       
      I agree that advertisers are having trouble with televison. With TiVo and DVRs becoming more affordable, there is almost no need to watch commercials. They make it so easy to skip through a commercial while watching a program. I have recently noticed that advertisers are responding to this by creating more comical and appealing commercials. There are some commercials that I actually like viewing now.
  • Because, at least until recently, the Internet has lacked both the riveting content and ad space inventory to absorb it.
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 12 Mar 08
       
      Yes...until recently. Now, there is limitless space on the Internet. Highly viewed websites such as MySpace, Facebook, and You Tube have provide great outlets for companies to advertise. These sites are often viewed more frequently than most television shows, and they are often unavoidable. You can get up, get a snack, or use the restroom during a commercial break on television, but you can't click off an advertisement or an icon while its on a webpage.
  • #4 Lots of people can now watch themselves on sort-of TV, which is pretty fun in itself. The bonus is that others want to watch them, too
    • butler09
      butler09 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This seems to be reflective of everyone's desire for "15 minutes of fame." The internet is making that a reality. The question is whether or not this is a good thing. Yes, it is easy and possible. It is revolutionizing our culture, and people constantly want to search and discover interesting morsels of entertainment. But is it becoming an obsession, especially with some people? With the huge number of broadcasts daily, it makes you think so.
    • Jessica Bloom
      Jessica Bloom on 16 Apr 08
       
      I would personally never put a video on Youtube. However, I have to admit that some of them are extremely funny. This also makes me think, though, of our discussion in class how some jobs look at internet sites and if they see you on them, they are less likely to hire you. So, it just goes to show that we have to be careful with how we portray ourselves.
  • The networks say these are measures to promote the broadcast versions of their shows. The overwhelming probability is that the opposite is true, which bodes poorly for those invested in the status quo. One victim is local affiliates, which get a big chunk of their revenue from selling commercial space within network programs. The Internet, needless to say, bypasses them.
    • butler09
      butler09 on 13 Mar 08
       
      We are in an age of technological advancement. The culture is saturated with it. If networks want to appeal to the generations that have grown up using this technology and prefer it as a mode of entertainment and communicaiton, then the smart business action to take is to begin expanding toward internet broadcasting. The standard television is no longer the central figure in the entertainment and news world, and in order to keep up with it, the networks have to "go with the flow."
    • Jen Fitzgerald
      Jen Fitzgerald on 13 Mar 08
       
      I completely agree with this statement. I personally watch alot of shows on DVR, especially American Idol because I can't stand how they draw out the show with commercials every five minutes. Advertisers have to adapt to the changing marketplaces or else their products will suffer.
  • a spiraling vortex of ruin.
    • Jen Fitzgerald
      Jen Fitzgerald on 13 Mar 08
       
      I completely agree with this statement. I watch most shows on DVR, especially American Idol and fast forward through the commercials. They draw out these shows and make the commercial breaks longer and longer.
  • NBC used Yahoo to premiere > Heroes > and AOL to offer sneak previews of its > Twenty Good Years > and > Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip > . > >
    • Gail Ramsey
      Gail Ramsey on 17 Apr 08
       
      Eventually the technologies will merge fully. You won't have a television and a separate computer. You will have everything all in one. Comcast digital cable has numerous music stations. Look at On Demand, you get to pick and choose when and what you watch. It will all meld together. Instead of previews to programs, it will be whatever you want to see whenever you want to see it. Your TV/Computer will do everything.
  • put fall premieres of shows like Smith and The New Adventures of Old Christine on Google Video
    • Jen Fitzgerald
      Jen Fitzgerald on 13 Mar 08
       
      This is what motivated much of the Writer's Guild strike. The writers wanted to have a share of online revenue when their shows are downloaded, like royalties.
  • #14 Fragmentation has decimated audiences, viewers who do watch are skipping commercials, advertisers are therefore fleeing, the revenue for underwriting new content is therefore flatlining, program quality is therefore suffering
    • daydreamr97
      daydreamr97 on 19 Mar 08
       
      Fragmentation has decimated the audiences of the big networks, but it's also been the reason so many new channels have been created: Animal Planet, the cooking channel, the sci-fi channel. And viewers watching these channels have special interest in the subject, so they are more likely to actually watch the commercials. So it's mostly the bigger networks that are suffering, which explains why there are so many reality TV shows on the major channels now. While they aren't "reality," they don't need a script so much as a situation.
  • dozens of networks are now making programs available online
    • daydreamr97
      daydreamr97 on 19 Mar 08
       
      Yes, a lot of shows are available online anytime, and also on Comcast. So, the big corporations are tryng to deal with the fragmentation. The problem with that is that it's still not exactly interactive, which is the thing people love about YouTube. This still doesn't address the issue that everyone wants to be a star.
    • haines64
      haines64 on 25 Mar 08
       
      I think the fact that many TV shows are now available online is a good sign. The greater U.S. population has been using the Internet for awhile. By putting TV shows online, it shows a good meshing of the two media outlets.
    • haines64
      haines64 on 12 Apr 08
       
      A recurring theme we've talked about in ITW is how some people are hesitant toward change. The want to keep the status quo shows this hesitantion, despite the overwhelming popularity of YouTube.
  • advertisers have been broadcasting themselves for decades and would very much prefer the status quo. The good news is that the status quo isn't long for this world.
    • jc ice
      jc ice on 16 Apr 08
       
      I agree this content is funny and entertaining, but there is social relevance. What do you think will be our legacy when all this is found 50 or 100 years in the future?
  • Everyone, in the back of his mind, wants to be a star," Hurley asserts for probably the quadrillionth time, "and we provide the audience to make it happen. "
  • He insists he can't quite recall, you know, the $1.65 billion moment.
  • He's turning right around in a few hours; he's stuck in yet one more conference room, and his eyes
  • stuck in yet one more conference room, and his eyes have the vacant look of someone whose body ha
  • he's stuck in yet one more conference room, and his eyes
  • CHAD HURLEY SAYS HE DOESN'T REMEMBER. It's two weeks before the announcement of the Google acquisition, and he has just flown the red
  • Everyone, in the back of his mind, wants to be a star," Hurley asserts for probably the quadrillionth time, "and we provide the audience to make it happen. "
    • Joan Vance
      Joan Vance on 17 Apr 08
       
      I find it amusing that Hurley mentions this. We actually discussed this in Creative Writing on Monday. The teacher asked who in the classroom wants to be famous. To my surprise there were only a few of us who raised our hands. As much as I want to be a star though, I wouldnt find posting a video on youtube very successful.
  • But what if there were a means to approximate the reach and mesmerizing power of television online?
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      The way technology is quickly growing and moving I don't see anything getting in its way. I see the computer replacing other medias.
  • Third-millennium humanity has demonstrated an interest in sifting through millions of pieces of crap produced by total strangers to discover a few gems – some accidentally entertaining ("Boom Goes the Dynamite"), some breakout performances from the previously obscure ("Treadmill Dance"), and some explorations of a new art form crackling with genius (Ze Frank, Ask a Ninja, and the guys behind Loneygirl15.)
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      If so many people view "You Tube" it must say something about its entertaining value. I am one of those people who shifts through "You Tube" and I have come across many interesting ones.
  • connection to his nervous system. In a word, the dude is fried. Never mind that he's the cofounder of the Next Big Thing and poised to be a total
    • Jennifer Dougherty
      Jennifer Dougherty on 18 Apr 08
       
      I think the advertisers do that. Look at the sig-in page for myspace. It is a virtual billboard. Any given day the entire sign-in page is a new advertisement. Sometimes it is a movie. The other day it was an entire page devoted to crest toothpaste. Once you are on the site, the sidebars are bombarded with schanging advertisements. Vans shoes one minute then after refreshing the page, it is some other product. Maybe we don't pay that much attention or ever click on the link. I know I never do. But clearly the advertisers have achieved at least some of their purpose because I remember seeing thier ad.
Jennifer Dougherty

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  • $1.65 billion in stock to be the cute little kitty-cat's home.
    • dracmere
      dracmere on 13 Feb 08
       
      Thats a lot of money for a home made video. I wonder if this is the end for TV shows about funny home made videos?
  • Judson Laipply'
    • goulds28 gould
      goulds28 gould on 13 Feb 08
       
      Judson Laipply appeared at Rowan's Turned Up Tuesday in the student center.
  • Not long ago, all it had was a search algorithm and a cool logo.
    • goulds28 gould
      goulds28 gould on 14 Feb 08
       
      Google now as an option to personalize your homepage with different gadgets called igoogle. Users can now access email accounts, weather reports, create to due lists, facebook and other blog updates, and hundreds of other options to personalize your page for your own convience. It is no longer only a seach algorithm.
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  • The clip, which was viewed nearly 2 million times in two weeks,
    • hughes27
      hughes27 on 14 Feb 08
       
      This is interesting because i have seen this video before but im not sure why or how i came around to watching it but its interesting.
  • And there they are, in the bedrooms and dorms and cubicles of the world, uploading their asses off, more than 65,000 times a day on YouTube alone.
    • hughes27
      hughes27 on 14 Feb 08
       
      This is true. About 2 years ago, i wouldnt beable to say anything about youtube, but now it has expanded and it seems like everyone is making or viewing videos.
  • which stars a chubby young man in his New Jersey bedroom lip-syncing to an insipid but weirdly fetching Romanian pop song.
    • Elizabeth Somer
      Elizabeth Somer on 12 Mar 08
       
      Youtube is re-discovering fame. Who needs agencies when you can publically display yourself and your "talents" on the web. Youtube is re-defining fame and misfortune
  • The price tag for YouTube, just to put the investment in perspective, is what Target paid for 257 Mervyns department stores and four distribution centers in 13 states, and just a bit more than WPP Group paid for the Grey Global Group advertising network with 10,500 employees in 83 countries generating $1.3 billion in revenue. Those, of course, are both profitable enterprises with vast fixed assets.
    • Elizabeth Somer
      Elizabeth Somer on 12 Mar 08
       
      This is unbelievable. I can't believe how far Youtube has come. It has truly exploded. It's like what the video we saw on the first and second days of class: "We live in exponential times"
  • Or try the accurately titled "Noah takes a photo of himself everyday for six years." A time-lapse documentary of Noah Kalina over 2,356 days, it's a little thin on plot, but it nonetheless racked up more than 3 million views in six weeks.
    • Jennifer Dougherty
      Jennifer Dougherty on 18 Apr 08
       
      This is too strange. Who thinks to do this? Why? And why are we watching? It surely takes dedication to take a picture of yourself everyday for 6 years. I think it would be a good idea to do with a newborn.
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  • As for Sacerdoti's so-called postroll ads, even the most self-satisfied marketer wants to know who in the world would stick around to watch – or, more to the point, who can prove that anyone did.
    • dracmere
      dracmere on 13 Feb 08
       
      This brings up a good point. I do not know of many people that would stick around for a commercial after the video. I usually am ready to click on the next video after the one I am watching is done.
  • Wait until their commercials make it onto YouTube and hope they go viral.
    • dracmere
      dracmere on 13 Feb 08
       
      This option seems to work. I have seen many Superbowl ads make it onto Youtube, which probably allows more people to see them then the Superbowl did.
    • goulds28 gould
      goulds28 gould on 14 Feb 08
       
      Because many people watch the Superbowl only to see the commericals uploading them onto youtube would increase even more the use of the internet instead of television cable.
    • kimmerzx0 C
      kimmerzx0 C on 12 Mar 08
       
      If the commerical is effective enough to capture its audience, then it should no doubt appear on youtube so that people can see it again and again.
    • anonymous
      anonymous on 17 Apr 08
       
      I think this is a good option.
    • coffma46
      coffma46 on 14 Feb 08
       
      When I am watching a video...I don't care for the advertisement even if it relates to the video I am looking at. I usually just want to watch what I have to and then close it out.
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  • As for Sacerdoti's so-called postroll ads, even the most self-satisfied marketer > wants to know who in the world would stick around to watch – or, more to the > point, who can prove that anyone did. >
  • "They've got the audience,
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 14 Feb 08
       
      An the audience today is mostly a younger crowd that is geared more towards technology and watching veidos on computers, what a difference in only five years.
  • YouTube actually encourages this – so long as the free posts are accompanied by paid versions.
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 14 Feb 08
       
      I like the idea that U-tube is welcoming to let others use their site to post commericals
  • A lot of those upload monkeys have a nasty habit of posting clips from TV shows or enhancing their clips by adding music tracks – which, of course, are somebody else's property.
    • willis02
      willis02 on 15 Feb 08
       
      I just finished reading the article assigned next week about plaigerism. It is true that many individuals think that just because it is on the internet and free access does not mean it is free to use. There are a lot of consequences that come along with stealing other peoples work.
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      wouldn't the artists be getting more publicity if people put their music/videos online? it's free exposure....
    • coffma46
      coffma46 on 15 Feb 08
       
      Even though these things (music and photos) arent of the person's creation it is something the person admires and they just want to promote it on his/her page.
  • YouTube refused to sell ads appended to either end of a video
    • willis02
      willis02 on 15 Feb 08
       
      I think a lot people come on youtube to watch highlights of their favorite show and not be distrubed by commercials. Everywhere we go we seem to see ads and this is the one place you wouldnt get any annoying breaks or pop ups. I think it would be stupid to start.
    • kaeanne
      kaeanne on 13 Mar 08
       
      I agree, I think that youtube participation would downfall greatly if commercials were added to the videos.
  • #2 "They've got the audience
    • Elizabeth Somer
      Elizabeth Somer on 12 Mar 08
       
      Though younger crowds are generally geared towards new media, I think older crowds are catching on and are becoming crazed by it as well.
    • kimmerzx0 C
      kimmerzx0 C on 12 Mar 08
       
      As it said in our article about Facebook, the average age of the fastest growing users is over 35 years old.
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      they have such a broad audience...my dad is hooked and it seems as though everyday my mom is showing me a funny video that her sister sent her...my brother watches tv shows and my cousin posts videos. it is universal
  • So what about "Evolution of Dance," for instance? To put together this medley, did Laipply license 30 songs?
    • Elizabeth Somer
      Elizabeth Somer on 12 Mar 08
       
      The guy that created "Evolution of Dance" came to Rowan and spoke to us about this. He did have to receive copy right license I believe. The law is the law. The internet is not a "free for all"
    • needle10
      needle10 on 13 Apr 08
       
      What if someone else videotapped his performance and posted it on youtube, could he get in trouble for that if he didn't get permission to use those songs?
  • "I think its the beginning of the end of youtube as we know it," wrote a poster named SamHill24. Another, Link420, declared simply, "ITS OVER!!!! youtube is screwed."
    • zimmer67
      zimmer67 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This was interesting because as we have seen in the history of new technologies there are always many who are just not comfortable with change. As the past has shown, opposition does not always indicate whether something will succeed
    • anonymous
      anonymous on 17 Apr 08
       
      Even if YouTube is "screwed" there will be a replacement instantly.
  • In short, what if there were a missing link between the old model and the glittering new one? What would happen then?
    • butler09
      butler09 on 13 Mar 08
       
      I want to ask if this is even possible, but then again, look at where we are. Technology is never-ending, and there's no doubt that there will someday be a breakthrough. The question is only when.
  • AS SOMEBODY ONCE SAID, 100 million people can't be wrong. They can, however, be useless. It turns out that success is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent monetization.
    • butler09
      butler09 on 13 Mar 08
       
      Media reflects the desires and whims of the audience. YouTube already has this, but when there's a sharing attitude prevalent that doesn't restrict the everyday, ordinary Joe Shmoe from posting, it's hard to come up with profitable ideas. No one wants to see commercials; that's why internet clips are so popular! People post what they want to see how they want to see it--and they don't stick in a 30-second add for cookies with it!
    • Jessica Bloom
      Jessica Bloom on 16 Apr 08
       
      This statement kind of made me laugh. It is totally true. I guess if so many people are using Youtube, it obviously can not be wrong. Also, I think how they are called useless is funny. As long as people are enjoying the videos, then who cares if they are useless? In their own minds they are successfull and that's all that matters!
  • #11 A lot of those upload monkeys have a nasty habit of posting clips from TV shows or enhancing their clips by adding music tracks – which, of course, are somebody else's property.
    • butler09
      butler09 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This is a major problem. There is a code of ethics that needs to be followed, but a lot of people don't care about that. Maybe some don't realize what they're doing, but still, it's illegal. We inherently accept that lying is wrong, that stealing is wrong, that plagerism is wrong. What's the difference between that and breaking copyright laws? Is that some sort of "golden opportunity" that people can ignore? No! But maybe they just figure they won't get caught. Few others appear to.
    • haines64
      haines64 on 25 Mar 08
       
      I'm suprised YouTube users (and people in general) aren't against this. For that matter, maybe I should phrase it as more people not publically being against this. It seems very sneaky to me to encourage this behavior, especially considering the ethical implications.
  • YouTube refused to sell ads appended to either end of a video
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      I would think it would be smart of them to sell ads. A lot of people view things on youtube every day and they could make a lot of money
  • As for Sacerdoti's so-called postroll ads, even the most self-satisfied marketer wants to know who in the world would stick around to watch
    • daydreamr97
      daydreamr97 on 19 Mar 08
       
      It's true, most people probably won't watch ads after the vdeo. I can't speak for anyone else, but I usually wont even watch the credits. Maybe if video makers did what filmmakers do now, have a bonus scene after the credits. You would see a video, the credits, a short ad, and final a bonus scene. A lot of people still wouldn't watch, but it's a possibility.
  • Which may suit the users just fine. One of the biggest obstacles to advertising success is the damage that success could inflict on the YouTube experience, till now an oasis of relative noncommercialism in a world of brand inundation
    • daydreamr97
      daydreamr97 on 19 Mar 08
       
      It's a good point. A lot of YouTube videos make use of copyrighted material, and although they credit the original creators, users seem paranoid about what the companies will do to them. By opening the site up to advertisers, it becomes even more likely that the big companies will start censoring what users can post.
  • But speculation abounds that copyright holders have just been waiting for someone with deep pockets, such as Google, to acquire YouTube, whereupon the lawsuits will fly.
    • daydreamr97
      daydreamr97 on 19 Mar 08
       
      This is exactly the fear of users. They use songs and video clips, and even though they aren't making money for their videos and most of the users do credit the original artists, they know that big companies can come along and tear their work down. Which isn't fair, when you think about it. All art is influenced by other art. In previous generations, it was okay for kids who became artists to begin by tracing and kids who became writers to begin copying other writers' styles, and kids who became directors to use action figures and a script drawn from other scripts. It's how people grow and discover who they are and what they want to say.
  • one killed aborning by copyright infringement issues
  • Photobucket,
  • "we are at the very, very beginning of online video."
    • haines64
      haines64 on 13 Apr 08
       
      Yet Zuckerberg was at the beginning of the social networking when he started Facebook and now look at what has come from it. If anything, it is likely that YouTube had a more direct startup (its target audience was not initially as limited as Zuckerberg's). Despite being at the beginning of online video, YouTube is becoming a social norm.
  • fatally intrusive
    • haines64
      haines64 on 13 Apr 08
       
      One of the things I find most annoying with TV shows online is the pseudo-commercials they include while loading and throughout the programs. If YouTube started using pre-video commercials, I personally would probably use the site less.
    • Gail Ramsey
      Gail Ramsey on 17 Apr 08
       
      If they have to run an ad, I think it should be done at the end or at least have the option to skip it. I think having it at the beginning sometimes hurts things in the end because people are impatient and they may just skip to another video or site else that does not have the ad first.
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Apr 08
       
      This is rather true. Sure, Google is a billion dollar company now, but what will happen five years from now? We live in a world where everything is constanly changing. Technologies are being upgraded and replaced. New companies are putting old ones out of business in a matter of months. No one can predicat anything in the digital revolution.
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Apr 08
       
      This is rather true. Sure, Google is a billion dollar company now, but what will happen five years from now? We live in a world where everything is constanly changing. Technologies are being upgraded and replaced. New companies are putting old ones out of business in a matter of months. No one can predicat anything in the digital revolution.
  • But even 100 million daily streams and $1.65 billion into the evolution of this species, how it will actually thrive is a mystery. "If anybody tries to answer that question
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Apr 08
       
      This is rather true. Sure, Google is a billion dollar company now, but what will happen five years from now? We live in a world where everything is constanly changing. Technologies are being upgraded and replaced. New companies are putting old ones out of business in a matter of months. No one can predicat anything in the digital revolution.
  • It, too, was a peer-to-peer revolutionary – one killed aborning by copyright infringement issues .
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Apr 08
       
      I have never thought about this before. This YouTube revolution is very similar to the Napster craze. People who use YouTube post television shows, music videos, songs, and commercials for anyone to access. This really isn't much different from the concept of Napster's music sharing. In fact, YouTube can probably bring up more infringement issues, because it crosses over a wider range of genres.
  • . It, too, was a peer-to-peer revolutionary – one killed aborning by copyright infringement issues .
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Apr 08
       
      have never thought about this before. This YouTube revolution is very similar to the Napster craze. People who use YouTube post television shows, music videos, songs, and commercials for anyone to access. This really isn't much different from the concept of Napster's music sharing. In fact, YouTube can probably bring up more infringement issues, because it crosses over a wider range of genres.
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Apr 08
       
      have never thought about this before. This YouTube revolution is very similar to the Napster craze. People who use YouTube post television shows, music videos, songs, and commercials for anyone to access. This really isn't much different from the concept of Napster's music sharing. In fact, YouTube can probably bring up more infringement issues, because it crosses over a wider range of genres.
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Apr 08
       
      have never thought about this before. This YouTube revolution is very similar to the Napster craze. People who use YouTube post television shows, music videos, songs, and commercials for anyone to access. This really isn't much different from the concept of Napster's music sharing. In fact, YouTube can probably bring up more infringement issues, because it crosses over a wider range of genres.
  • It, too, was a peer-to-peer revolutionary – one killed aborning by copyright infringement issues .
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Apr 08
       
      I have never thought about this before. This YouTube revolution is very similar to the Napster craze. People who use YouTube post television shows, music videos, songs, and commercials for anyone to access. This really isn't much different from the concept of Napster's music sharing. In fact, YouTube can probably bring up more infringement issues, because it crosses over a wider range of genres.
  • It, too, was a peer-to-peer revolutionary – one killed aborning by copyright infringement issues .
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Apr 08
       
      I have never thought about this before. This YouTube revolution is very similar to the Napster craze. People who use YouTube post television shows, music videos, songs, and commercials for anyone to access. This really isn't much different from the concept of Napster's music sharing. In fact, YouTube can probably bring up more infringement issues, because it crosses over a wider range of genres.
  • It, too, was a peer-to-peer revolutionary – one killed aborning by copyright infringement issues .
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Apr 08
       
      I have never thought about this before. This YouTube revolution is very similar to the Napster craze. People who use YouTube post television shows, music videos, songs, and commercials for anyone to access. This really isn't much different from the concept of Napster's music sharing. In fact, YouTube can probably bring up more infringement issues, because it crosses over a wider range of genres.
  • The second big issue is the nightmare of protecting intellectual property. As eager as Madison Avenue is to push stacks of chips online, in the back of its mind is Napster. It, too, was a peer-to-peer revolutionary – one killed aborning by copyright infringement issues . Nobody wants to invest only to see the fledgling industry paralyzed with litigation, regulation, or legislation. And it is not an idle fear.
    • anonymous
      anonymous on 14 Apr 08
       
      I think that protecting intellectuall property is important, very imporatnt.I feel in a way that youtube is like limewire because you get to go on there and look up msuic for free; in the porcess, msuicians and artist alike aren't paid and the rights to their music are completely dimissed.
  • Actually, that's an easy one: Procter & Gamble would be ecstatic
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      Procter&Gamble is probably the biggest distributor of products, from household products to prescription drugs. This fact makes it a highly advertised company. I guess this would make them very ecstatic.
    • Bianca Pieloch
      Bianca Pieloch on 17 Apr 08
       
      Putting a commercial in the beginning of the video may discourage the viewer from watching it. Is there some way the commercial can come in the middle? Or is that technically impossible? Maybe force the viewer to watch it?
    • Melissa Foster
      Melissa Foster on 17 Apr 08
       
      The idea of intellectual property and copyrighting is something that we discussed in our other two modules, so I found it intriguing that it continues to be such a sticky area. Also, the concept behind lawsuits being driven by the amount of money the company running the site has shows how it may all just be about wealth.
tangoa24

Wired 4.01: Who Am We? - 0 views

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    • tangoa24
      tangoa24 on 12 Feb 08
       
      I find this passage interesting since it says the goal of these Sim games are to create a successful community or ecosystem or other similar situation. In my experience, these Sim games are a chance to bend and twist a virtual reality in a way that actual reality cannot. It's all about cheating and manipulating and creating a more entertaining world than the real one we live in. To say that these games have a more noble purpose than that seems ludicrous to me.
alieraisu1

Teacher Book Wizard: Find Children's Books by Reading Level, Topic, Genre. Level Books ... - 0 views

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bookfinder books elementary reading

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  • alieraisu1 on 30 Mar 08
     
    This is awesome! Just pop in some information about your picky-reader student and out comes a list of level-appropriate books that will spark their interest! A great tool for teachers and parents alike!!!
mccrar25

Exciting Writing - 0 views

excitingwriting.wordpress.com

arts blog writing

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  • Pi day
    • alieraisu1
      alieraisu1 on 30 Mar 08
       
      Pi day... hahaha... (I'm just showing my sister how this works)
  • Elizabeth Somer on 29 Mar 08
     
    This blog discusses education and writing. It covers many topics as you will see.
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  • needle10 on 02 Apr 08
     
    A blog with information regarding writing, reading strategies, advice for teachers and much more.
  • richar19 on 14 Apr 08
     
    This is our blog page.
  • mccrar25 on 16 Apr 08
     
    This is the collection of blogs that my group created.
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