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Gail Ramsey

Wired 14.12: The Secret World of Lonelygirl - 0 views

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shared by Gail Ramsey on 13 Feb 08 - Cached
  • Don't sell merchandise and don't use any copyrighted music without a license. If people buy Lonelygirl15 stuff thinking she is real, they could claim false advertising and sue.
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 13 Feb 08
       
      I guess that was smart that he thought that much into, but it still doesnt sit right with me. When I watched the viedos I couldn't help but think how fake it all was.
    • zimmer67
      zimmer67 on 13 Mar 08
       
      I don't feel creating a fan base based on lies is the best way for a young film maker to start his career.
    • alieraisu1
      alieraisu1 on 13 Mar 08
       
      Really quick here: isn't it false advertising? They made a series of FAKE videos about a girl. It's all scripted... but no one says that out loud... isn't that false advertising?
  • It was a sly move: Post a video that comments on an already-popular vlogger and piggyback on the existing audience.
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 13 Feb 08
       
      Deffinitley a smart tactic, I commend him on his genious ways, he most be a intelligent person, writing skits and planning this all.
  • But he did persuade her to meet again the next day. It was at a crowded coffee shop – she figured she'd be safe. Beckett showed up alone and explained the plan this way: The project was a sketchbook for a film. If it was a success online, they could go to the studios and use the material as a screen test for both her and the story. That seemed to soften her. This was just a stepping stone to a feature film. She decided to give it a try.
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 13 Feb 08
       
      At least that shows that lonelygirl has respect for herself. I don't no anything about these veidos except for what is on here, so I didn't no if she did anything inappopriate and that statement shows she isn't a so called "veido whore".
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  • Her character is also deliberately crafted to target the Web's most active demographics. Nerds geek out on the idea that this beautiful girl lists physicist Richard Feynman and poet e. e. cummings as heroes. Horny guys respond to the tame but tantalizing glimpses of her cleavage. Teenage girls sympathize with her boy troubles and her sometimes-stormy relationship with her strict parents. Early on, viewers started emailing to offer advice and sympathy. Others wanted to talk dirty and discuss mathematical equations.
    • sunflower123
      sunflower123 on 13 Feb 08
       
      Yes it is nice that all different types of people can relate to her...but they were not relating to a real person, so that could of really upset them when they found out it was fake. That could cause someone to do something out of hand.
    • goulds28 gould
      goulds28 gould on 14 Feb 08
       
      The point is that people were relating to the story. It was what held their interest. Whether or not she is fictional is unimportant. The fact that people were interested in this is what made it so substational to the future of "tv on the internet"
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      i noticed that they did this....they have every boy's dream...a beautiful nerdy girl who isn't afraid to be herself....not sure how much girls would like her though...
    • kaeanne
      kaeanne on 13 Mar 08
       
      She's extremely cute. I watched the three videos on the side of the first page, and I can see why people would think she's adorable. However, the things she does and says seems a little immature for me, maybe that's the point but I don't see why people would tune into her like they apparently do. I just don't know...
  • As Bree, she struck up friendships with people in Sweden, Scotland, Ireland, Portugal, Australia, Mexico, and all over the US.
    • goulds28 gould
      goulds28 gould on 14 Feb 08
       
      Thats the difference with having this series on the internet, it is worldwide not only reaching select television networks.
  • Now Beckett and Flinders had made her sign a nondisclosure agreement and, clearly pleased with themselves, told her that they wanted her to play the lead in what they billed as the future of entertainment.
    • Jennifer Dougherty
      Jennifer Dougherty on 18 Apr 08
       
      The people on Survivor and the Bachelor and any other show that ends prior to the last air date must sign agreements of nondisclousure so that the ending is not revealed. How is this any different. This actually makes me think about the movie The Truman Show with Jim Carrey.
    • hughes27
      hughes27 on 14 Feb 08
       
      These characteristics are doing exactly what is intended to do. Just from the small three video's that i have watched so far, im interested to watch more.
  • The title of the video was "My Parents Suck …," and she explained that her religion prevented her from doing things that other kids did. Still, she felt that her parents had gone too far when they said she couldn't go on a hike with Daniel. It was the first time Bree was emotional on camera.
    • Melissa Foster
      Melissa Foster on 17 Apr 08
       
      This change really brought drama to the plot, but I can see how the mystery drew people in. I remember thinking the Law & Order episode that was based on this story was intriguing since it implied a future for this type of entertainment.
  • In fact, Beckett and Flinders hadn't even found an actress to play the part.
    • coffma46
      coffma46 on 15 Feb 08
       
      SO, Lonelygirl15 wasn't sure if this was a scam or not? Did she even look into it first?
  • It was exactly what her acting coaches at Universal Studios' film program had warned her against: unkempt producer-types hawking shady deals.
  • THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT JESSICA ROSE that the webcam loves. Her distractingly large eyebrows and small round face are bent and stretched by the fish-eye lens into a morsel of beauty that fits perfectly in a pop-up window. That's not to say she isn't pretty off camera – she is – but every step she takes closer to the cam multiplies and enhances her looks. It's a face made for the browser screen.
    • Aaron D
      Aaron D on 25 Mar 08
       
      I can see that. =D
    • coffma46
      coffma46 on 15 Feb 08
       
      So Jessica Rose had to be pretty to be on camera...that is not right. If the person has something to say...let them no matter what.
  • As Bree, she struck up friendships with people in Sweden, Scotland, Ireland, Portugal, Australia, Mexico, and all over the US. > She never offered much information about her character. Rather, she'd research an emailer's
    • coffma46
      coffma46 on 15 Feb 08
       
      Doing this screen play was also a way for her to meet new people and to keep in contact with people she already knew.
  • The previous week, one guy had offered her a part in a movie if she would use her student ID to buy him discounted film at Kodak
    • Elizabeth Somer
      Elizabeth Somer on 12 Mar 08
       
      These people are receiving instant fame. Like any celebrity there are positive and negative consequences. While Youtube may have in fact helped this actress's career, it could have also easily shattered it
  • A day or two after that, a new user named Lonelygirl15 posted an animated scene of a dinosaur stomping on a house, intercut with Emily's original videos.
    • vanamb16
      vanamb16 on 13 Mar 08
       
      good segueway.....pretty inventive and it would get vloggers interested
  • Emily's fans loved it and offered a deluge of comments, giving Lonelygirl15 instant cred. Viewers praised this funny, creative new vlogger, encouraged her to keep the videos coming, and signed up to receive her future clips.
    • mccrar25
      mccrar25 on 13 Mar 08
       
      I can't believe that people would actually get so involved in this. When you think about it, it's kind of ridiculous. It's as if people don't value their lives enough that they have to rely on someone else's story for entertainment. Then, after all of that, they find out that it's fictional. I just think that this was very deceptive.
  • . #15 The previous videos had gotten between 50,000 and 100,000 views after a week, but this one logged 50,000 in its first
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This is very interesting and shows a huge jump in popularity.
  • The previous videos had gotten between 50,000 and 100,000 views after a week, but this one logged 50,000 in its first two hours.
    • needle10
      needle10 on 13 Apr 08
       
      The amount of people that view the "diary videos" from LonelyGirl15 is not surprising to me because there are many shows on television these days that I thought no one would ever watch and yet millions do.
  • Goodfried's advice was simple. "If anyone asks point-blank if you're real, don't answer the question," he said. "Don't lie to people. The answer is no answer. In my mind, it's the equivalent of not lying. But if people talk to Bree like she's Bree, that's fair game."
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This is something that happens all the time were someone is asked a question and they just don't answer it or they change the subject. I had never thought of it from a legal stance though.
    • Gail Ramsey
      Gail Ramsey on 17 Apr 08
       
      I am still not sure how legal not answering the question is. In the series, she is saying she is a certain individual. How is that different than if someone asks via email? Most likely, the dollar issue is the one you could get in trouble for because that would bring in false advertising.
  • #8 The previous week, one guy had offered her a part in a movie if she would use her student ID to buy him discounted film at Kodak
    • richar19
      richar19 on 13 Mar 08
       
      This to me is something that would seem very weird. I do not think film is that expensive so i would not see why he would do this. I would probably have a bad feeling about it.
  • It sounded a lot like porn.
    • alieraisu1
      alieraisu1 on 13 Mar 08
       
      I would have bacxked out right then and there. It sounded shady to me too, and I wouldn't have gone along with it. I wonder why she did.
    • Aaron D
      Aaron D on 25 Mar 08
       
      You know it really could have been. But Beckett and Flinders probably backed out on their original idea when they were afraid of lossing her. =P haha
  • they could claim false advertising and sue.
  • commune-raised screenwriter a green light to unleash Lonelygirl15 on the world.
    • Jen Fitzgerald
      Jen Fitzgerald on 13 Mar 08
       
      This guy was raised on a commune with twelve other kids. He's just trying to find any way to stand out, even if it is creepy. He really thought through the process and made sure to cover himself.
  • (one called her an "attention whore" and another a "video slut"),
    • Jen Fitzgerald
      Jen Fitzgerald on 13 Mar 08
       
      I've noticed how quick people are to post vile and insulting things. They don't care who will see their remarks because they can hide behind their screen name. Cursing seems like less and less of a taboo online. I don't think this is a good way to share with our peers.
  • But this first clip laid the groundwork for everything that was to come.
    • Aaron D
      Aaron D on 25 Mar 08
       
      You can really tell in the advansment in the editting techs. from the first clip to the later ones. the style of the program evolves
  • A day or two after that, a new user named Lonelygirl15 posted an animated scene of a dinosaur stomping on a house, intercut with Emily's original videos.
  • 9 The previous videos had gotten between 50,000 and 100,000 views after a week, but this one logged 50,000 in its first two hours.
    • butler09
      butler09 on 07 Apr 08
       
      People want to hear the dramatic, soap opery issues. Like with the YouTube video of "boom goes the dynamite," people enjoy looking at videos of people in distress, whether emotionally or socially. Plus, the title itself relates with the emotions a lot of teens feel. "My Parents Suck . . ." It's a title a lot of kids probably want to put on their life story at some time or another. It's no wonder it was so popular.
  • "If anyone asks point-blank if you're real, don't answer the question," he said. "Don't lie to people. The answer is no answer. In my mind, it's the equivalent of not lying. But if people talk to Bree like she's Bree, that's fair game."
    • needle10
      needle10 on 13 Apr 08
       
      This is kind of like politics. Don't answer the question, avoid it, and no one will get in trouble.
  • JESSICA ROSE WAS SUSPICIOUS and frankly a little pissed off. She had come to this organic-tea shop to discuss what she thought was a feature film called Children of Anchor Cove.
    • needle10
      needle10 on 13 Apr 08
       
      Can you blame her? This is all very sketchy. And it's kind of ironic that they lured her to get involved in this "project" under false pretenses and the whole project itself is a lie.
    • Gail Ramsey
      Gail Ramsey on 17 Apr 08
       
      I wonder how many other young actresses they tried this on before they found her? I can not image trusting these guys like she did. Exspecially when they eventually told her they would film in a private house in a bedroom.
  • a hand puppet named Purple Monkey
    • anonymous
      anonymous on 17 Apr 08
       
      I never played with hand puppets when I was 16.
  • Rather, she'd research an emailer's MySpace page and ask questions about their life. They responded enthusiastically and helped spread the word about the amazing new YouTube vlogger named Bree
    • Joan Vance
      Joan Vance on 17 Apr 08
       
      OMG, how crazy is that?!?! I'm surprised no one else has commented on this particular part. I can't believe Amanda looked up people's myspace pages. My page is private but it still makes me skeptical. Maybe I should delete my myspace and facebook. Who wants people to know everything about them?
    • Gail Ramsey
      Gail Ramsey on 17 Apr 08
       
      I agree. That is scary. I don't really see getting upset that the video was a fake but to get into friendships, email conversations and investigate people . No that crosses a line somewhere that is not acceptable. Those conversations were past just a unique new entertainment.
  • Don't sell merchandise and don't use any copyrighted music without a license. If people buy Lonelygirl15 stuff thinking she is real
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      How does this justify the fact that the story line is flasified? Is this not false advertising? They are misleading the viewers.
    • Jennifer Dougherty
      Jennifer Dougherty on 18 Apr 08
       
      I follow the Big Brother blogs. They are full of people who follow the live feeds. The houseguests are not permitted to sing any song because of this copyright issue. Watching the feeds, the stuff that is only seen over the internet, you can here producers come on and ask houseguests to "please stop singing" anytime they break into song. It's pretty amusing sometimes.
  • Teenage girls sympathize with her boy troubles and her sometimes-stormy relationship with her strict parents.
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      This is where this can get really ugly. Young girls who make a connection with her, only to learn that it is all lies. This could cause some serious emotional repurcussions.
  • The previous videos had gotten between 50,000 and 100,000 views after a week, but this one logged 50,000 in its first two hours.
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      I am not surprised. In our troubled world, people like to feel that they are not alone in the way they feel. They tend to gravitate towards people who have problems. It makes their own more bearable.
  • Rather, she'd research an emailer's MySpace page and ask questions about their life. They responded enthusiastically and helped spread the word about the amazing new YouTube vlogger named Bree .
    • anita sipala
      anita sipala on 17 Apr 08
       
      Okay, so where does this invasion of privacy end? It is like you are standing in the nude for the entire web to view.
    • Melissa Foster
      Melissa Foster on 17 Apr 08
       
      it's interesting how the same viewers who degraded Emily embraced Lonelygirl15. I wonder if it has to do with her created persona. As they discuss later, it did appeal to a certain demographic on the web.
    • Bianca Pieloch
      Bianca Pieloch on 17 Apr 08
       
      This is how they draw people in. When they see someone is upset and trying to deal with a problem, the viewer is drawn in. Humans like to see others besides themselves with problems.
  • For Amanda, it was a welcome departure from her day job, where she answered phones and handled the demands of high-powered stars.
    • Jennifer Dougherty
      Jennifer Dougherty on 18 Apr 08
       
      Isn't this what most of us long for-a chance to be someone else, even if only for a bit? Think about it, I know when I was younger, I played dress up and pretended to be someone else. Even as an adult writer, I create characters that are not like me. They are from me, but are not me. Sometimes I am a child in my stories, sometimes an elderly man, sometimes I am even an anilmal or a bug, or a fairy, or a princess. The point is, it is an escape from reality, a vent, a form of release.
Lauren Mecum

Bob Dylan Wins Pulitzer - 0 views

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shared by Lauren Mecum on 24 Apr 08 - Cached
  • Lauren Mecum on 24 Apr 08
     
    It is nice to see a singer, song writer and poet be recognized. Some may not like Dylan's music or style but I think that having someone lik ehim in the writing community has been beneficial.
  • Lauren Mecum on 24 Apr 08
     
    Dylan, the most acclaimed and influential songwriter of the past half century, who more than anyone brought rock from the streets to the lecture hall, received an honorary Pulitzer Prize on Monday, cited for his "profound impact on popular music and American culture, marked by lyrical compositions of extraordinary poetic power."
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