Don't sell merchandise and don't use any copyrighted music without a license. If people buy Lonelygirl15 stuff thinking she is real, they could claim false advertising and sue.
I guess that was smart that he thought that much into, but it still doesnt sit right with me. When I watched the viedos I couldn't help but think how fake it all was.
Really quick here: isn't it false advertising? They made a series of FAKE videos about a girl. It's all scripted... but no one says that out loud... isn't that false advertising?
It was a sly move: Post a video that comments on an already-popular vlogger and piggyback on the existing audience.
Deffinitley a smart tactic, I commend him on his genious ways, he most be a intelligent person, writing skits and planning this all.
But he did persuade her to meet again the next day. It was at a crowded coffee shop – she figured she'd be safe. Beckett showed up alone and explained the plan this way: The project was a sketchbook for a film. If it was a success online, they could go to the studios and use the material as a screen test for both her and the story. That seemed to soften her. This was just a stepping stone to a feature film. She decided to give it a try.
At least that shows that lonelygirl has respect for herself. I don't no anything about these veidos except for what is on here, so I didn't no if she did anything inappopriate and that statement shows she isn't a so called "veido whore".
Her character is also deliberately crafted to target the Web's most active demographics. Nerds geek out on the idea that this beautiful girl lists physicist Richard Feynman and poet e. e. cummings as heroes. Horny guys respond to the tame but tantalizing glimpses of her cleavage. Teenage girls sympathize with her boy troubles and her sometimes-stormy relationship with her strict parents. Early on, viewers started emailing to offer advice and sympathy. Others wanted to talk dirty and discuss mathematical equations.
Yes it is nice that all different types of people can relate to her...but they were not relating to a real person, so that could of really upset them when they found out it was fake. That could cause someone to do something out of hand.
The point is that people were relating to the story. It was what held their interest. Whether or not she is fictional is unimportant. The fact that people were interested in this is what made it so substational to the future of "tv on the internet"
i noticed that they did this....they have every boy's dream...a beautiful nerdy girl who isn't afraid to be herself....not sure how much girls would like her though...
She's extremely cute. I watched the three videos on the side of the first page, and I can see why people would think she's adorable. However, the things she does and says seems a little immature for me, maybe that's the point but I don't see why people would tune into her like they apparently do. I just don't know...
As Bree, she struck up friendships with people in Sweden, Scotland, Ireland, Portugal, Australia, Mexico, and all over the US.
Thats the difference with having this series on the internet, it is worldwide not only reaching select television networks.
Now Beckett and Flinders had made her sign a nondisclosure agreement and, clearly pleased with themselves, told her that they wanted her to play the lead in what they billed as the future of entertainment.
The people on Survivor and the Bachelor and any other show that ends prior to the last air date must sign agreements of nondisclousure so that the ending is not revealed. How is this any different. This actually makes me think about the movie The Truman Show with Jim Carrey.
These characteristics are doing exactly what is intended to do. Just from the small three video's that i have watched so far, im interested to watch more.
The title of the video was "My Parents Suck …," and she explained that her religion prevented her from doing things that other kids did. Still, she felt that her parents had gone too far when they said she couldn't go on a hike with Daniel. It was the first time Bree was emotional on camera.
This change really brought drama to the plot, but I can see how the mystery drew people in. I remember thinking the Law & Order episode that was based on this story was intriguing since it implied a future for this type of entertainment.
In fact, Beckett and Flinders hadn't even found an actress to play the part.
SO, Lonelygirl15 wasn't sure if this was a scam or not? Did she even look into it first?
It was exactly what her acting coaches at Universal Studios' film program had warned her against: unkempt producer-types hawking shady deals.
THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT JESSICA ROSE that the webcam loves. Her distractingly large eyebrows and small round face are bent and stretched by the fish-eye lens into a morsel of beauty that fits perfectly in a pop-up window. That's not to say she isn't pretty off camera – she is – but every step she takes closer to the cam multiplies and enhances her looks. It's a face made for the browser screen.
So Jessica Rose had to be pretty to be on camera...that is not right. If the person has something to say...let them no matter what.
As Bree, she struck up friendships with people in Sweden, Scotland, Ireland, Portugal, Australia, Mexico, and all over the US.
> She never offered much information about her character. Rather, she'd research an emailer's
These people are receiving instant fame. Like any celebrity there are positive and negative consequences. While Youtube may have in fact helped this actress's career, it could have also easily shattered it
A day or two after that, a new user named Lonelygirl15 posted an animated scene of a dinosaur stomping on a house, intercut with Emily's original videos.
good segueway.....pretty inventive and it would get vloggers interested
Emily's fans loved it and offered a deluge of comments, giving Lonelygirl15
instant cred. Viewers praised this funny, creative new vlogger, encouraged her
to keep the videos coming, and signed up to receive her future clips.
I can't believe that people would actually get so involved in this. When you think about it, it's kind of ridiculous. It's as if people don't value their lives enough that they have to rely on someone else's story for entertainment. Then, after all of that, they find out that it's fictional. I just think that this was very deceptive.
. #15
The previous
videos had gotten between 50,000 and 100,000 views after a week,
but this one
logged 50,000 in its first
The amount of people that view the "diary videos" from LonelyGirl15 is not surprising to me because there are many shows on television these days that I thought no one would ever watch and yet millions do.
Goodfried's advice was simple. "If anyone asks point-blank if you're real,
don't answer the question," he said. "Don't lie to people. The answer is no
answer. In my mind, it's the equivalent of not lying. But if people talk to Bree
like she's Bree, that's fair game."
This is something that happens all the time were someone is asked a question and they just don't answer it or they change the subject. I had never thought of it from a legal stance though.
I am still not sure how legal not answering the question is. In the series, she is saying she is a certain individual. How is that different than if someone asks via email? Most likely, the dollar issue is the one you could get in trouble for because that would bring in false advertising.
#8
The
previous week, one guy had offered her a part in a movie if she would
use
her
student ID to buy him discounted film at Kodak
This to me is something that would seem very weird. I do not think film is that expensive so i would not see why he would do this. I would probably have a bad feeling about it.
This guy was raised on a commune with twelve other kids. He's just trying to find any way to stand out, even if it is creepy. He really thought through the process and made sure to cover himself.
(one called her an "attention whore" and another a "video slut"),
I've noticed how quick people are to post vile and insulting things. They don't care who will see their remarks because they can hide behind their screen name. Cursing seems like less and less of a taboo online. I don't think this is a good way to share with our peers.
But this first clip laid the groundwork for everything that was to come.
You can really tell in the advansment in the editting techs. from the first clip to the later ones. the style of the program evolves
A
day or two after that, a new user named Lonelygirl15 posted an animated scene of
a dinosaur stomping on a house, intercut with Emily's original videos.
9
The
previous
videos
had gotten between 50,000 and 100,000 views after a week,
but
this one
logged
50,000 in its first
two hours.
People want to hear the dramatic, soap opery issues. Like with the YouTube video of "boom goes the dynamite," people enjoy looking at videos of people in distress, whether emotionally or socially. Plus, the title itself relates with the emotions a lot of teens feel. "My Parents Suck . . ." It's a title a lot of kids probably want to put on their life story at some time or another. It's no wonder it was so popular.
"If anyone asks point-blank if you're real, don't answer the question," he said.
"Don't lie to people. The answer is no answer. In my mind, it's the equivalent
of not lying. But if people talk to Bree like she's Bree, that's fair game."
This is kind of like politics. Don't answer the question, avoid it, and no one will get in trouble.
JESSICA ROSE WAS SUSPICIOUS and frankly a little pissed off.
She had come to this organic-tea shop to discuss what she thought was a feature
film called Children of Anchor Cove.
Can you blame her? This is all very sketchy. And it's kind of ironic that they lured her to get involved in this "project" under false pretenses and the whole project itself is a lie.
I wonder how many other young actresses they tried this on before they found her? I can not image trusting these guys like she did. Exspecially when they eventually told her they would film in a private house in a bedroom.
Rather, she'd research an emailer's MySpace page and ask questions about their
life. They responded enthusiastically and helped spread the word about the
amazing new YouTube vlogger named Bree
OMG, how crazy is that?!?! I'm surprised no one else has commented on this particular part. I can't believe Amanda looked up people's myspace pages. My page is private but it still makes me skeptical. Maybe I should delete my myspace and facebook. Who wants people to know everything about them?
I agree. That is scary. I don't really see getting upset that the video was a fake but to get into friendships, email conversations and investigate people . No that crosses a line somewhere that is not acceptable. Those conversations were past just a unique new entertainment.
Don't sell merchandise and don't use any
copyrighted music without a license. If people buy Lonelygirl15 stuff thinking
she is real
I follow the Big Brother blogs. They are full of people who follow the live feeds. The houseguests are not permitted to sing any song because of this copyright issue. Watching the feeds, the stuff that is only seen over the internet, you can here producers come on and ask houseguests to "please stop singing" anytime they break into song. It's pretty amusing sometimes.
Teenage girls sympathize with her boy troubles and her sometimes-stormy
relationship with her strict parents.
This is where this can get really ugly. Young girls who make a connection with her, only to learn that it is all lies. This could cause some serious emotional repurcussions.
The previous
videos
had
gotten between 50,000 and 100,000 views after a week,
but
this
one
logged
50,000
in its first
two
hours.
I am not surprised. In our troubled world, people like to feel that they are not alone in the way they feel. They tend to gravitate towards people who have problems. It makes their own more bearable.
Rather, she'd research an emailer's MySpace
page and ask questions about their
life.
They responded enthusiastically and helped spread the word about the
amazing new YouTube vlogger named
Bree
.
it's interesting how the same viewers who degraded Emily embraced Lonelygirl15. I wonder if it has to do with her created persona. As they discuss later, it did appeal to a certain demographic on the web.
This is how they draw people in. When they see someone is upset and trying to deal with a problem, the viewer is drawn in. Humans like to see others besides themselves with problems.
For Amanda, it was a welcome departure from her day job, where she answered phones and handled the demands of high-powered stars.
Isn't this what most of us long for-a chance to be someone else, even if only for a bit? Think about it, I know when I was younger, I played dress up and pretended to be someone else. Even as an adult writer, I create characters that are not like me. They are from me, but are not me. Sometimes I am a child in my stories, sometimes an elderly man, sometimes I am even an anilmal or a bug, or a fairy, or a princess. The point is, it is an escape from reality, a vent, a form of release.
I believe that one day Youtube might take over the TV. I personally have heard my mom saying she wishes she could just watch Youtube on TV. This would also allow companies to put commercials inbetween videos.
Wait. You haven't seen it? Ohhhhmygosh! I'll email you the link."
I have experienced this exact scenario, and felt pressured to spend more time browsing videos on youtube rather than flipping through channels on television. It is simply more entertaining. And if you are not up to date on the latest videos you are often lost in conversation with peers.
youtube is great b/c it does have the short clips which you can send to people....they can watch it then or save the link for another time....it is simply more convenient
I have to admit, I am right there with everyone watching these and if someone sends me a link, I will watch and pass it on everytime. But what are we saying about quality and art with all of this? Has the world so changed that we can only find ourselves within the little eye on the top of our computers?
I definetly agree with the fact that You Tube will survive, so many people watch You Tube, it's unbelievable. My boyfriend for one gets on my computer and watches a few You Tube videos everytime he comes over. I've even seen my brother and friends put You Tube videos on their My Space and another is I've put You Tube on my blog site.
YouTube is basically going under the assumption that there's this community in
place to blindly create content on YouTube's behalf without much in the way of
compensation."
This is what worries me about all of this "free say" and "free expression" online. These websites are making it very easy for others to copy or steal ideas, sometimes without the true creator's knowledge. Currently, there really aren't any copyright laws about this, because no one really knows what to do about these problems.
What Uncle Miltie and the Super Bowl and Survivor have always
offered is something to talk about at the water cooler, at the nail salon, or on
IM.
This is quite true. We love to talk about what's going on in Hollywood, on reality shows, and the Internet. It gives us something to talk about, something to relate to with each other. With the Internet, we are able to actually show others what we are talking about.
For instance, if you are, say, Meow Mix, and you bought ads adjacent to
cat-related videos, how surprised and disappointed you might be to learn you
have sponsored a YouTube video uploaded by someone named mrwheatley and titled
"exploding cat." Or the one from qu1rk89 titled "exploding cat." Or this one:
"ma907h eats dead cat," which shows a guy … oh, never mind.
This is interesting to think about. These "themed" and tagged sites do offer problems for advertising companies. Because thousands of new videos are being posted on You Tube, it is often hard to control and monitor what is posted.
Will advertisers risk associating themselves with violence, pornography, hate
speech, or God knows what lurks out there one click away?
True. Entertainment on the web is vastly different than what is found on television, especially when specific channels can boast specific content. Advertisers might not be aware of what it is they are working with when using YouTube. They like to syncronize ads with content of similarity; if you don't know the content, you don't know if the ad is appropriate for the respective viewer.
#2
Will
advertisers risk associating themselves with violence, pornography, hate
speech,
or God knows what lurks out there one click away?
As much I would hope that advertisers would not associate with these types of things, I am not so sure they would shy away. Look at what airs now on reality TV shows. Eventually, if the general public doesn't act in an uproar over something, I think the advertisers will latch on.
I know there is a lot of risk when advertisers associate themselves with violence, porn, etc... but the truth is, is that is what sells and gets the most attention. People don't wanna hear boring, everyday issues. They want drama, and lots of it. So, if that means incorporating violence, hate, or God, then I bet they will.
While this is true, I also think a lot of people want others to see them. The notion of people wanting to have their 15 minutes of fame should probably not be overlooked when talking about why YouTube is here to stay.
I think this is really true. But I also think that in some ways it is beginning to delute certain genres. Everyone thinks they can make a movie now and the fact that you can make a digital movie doesn't mean it was worth making. Director's like Scorsese spend years honing their crafts and this instantaneous everyone is a star atttitude dimishes artists like this. And i must admit, i will watch the stuff on Youtube for hours at a time, but i never see these clips as anywhere near the quality of a seasoned film maker.
Advertisers and brands are enormously risk averse,
These videos could produce very specialized advertising. Those that would pose these types of videos can be targeted by morally ambigious advertisers for very specific products or services. That is scary.
I know there is a lot of risk when advertisers associate themselves with violence, porn, etc... but the truth is, is that is what sells and gets the most attention. People don't wanna hear boring, everyday issues. They want drama, and lots of it. So, if that means incorporating violence, hate, or God, then I bet they will.
Supan insists that YouTubers have done an excellent job of policing their own space
Is this really true though? A few paragraphs before, the article talks about the futile attempts to remove copyrighted material from YouTube. If the users are okay with posting videos that result in copyright infringement, are we really to be believe that there is not a good number of people trying (and probably succeeding, at least on some level) to post violent, pornographic, obscene, etc videos on the site. If I were an advertiser, I'd be very hesitant to post my product where the users are "policing their own space".
Will
advertisers risk associating themselves with
violence, pornography, hate
speech,
or God
knows what lurks out there one click away?
Will
advertisers risk associating themselves with
violence, pornography, hate
speech,
or God
knows what lurks out there one click away?
"
Advertisers and brands are enormously risk
averse,
"
I'm not sure what advertisers will do about this. However, I do believe that someone will be able to find a way to reasolve this issue. There is no way that a cat food company would let their product be associated with animal cruelty.
And with a $177 billion total domestic ad budget at stake, nobody wants to be
monkeying around.
Everything has to be about money. No wonder it will take them so long to figure something out, even if it is really important, because one mess up could cost them billions. I hate that our world revolves around money!!
And prosper, despite everything, for one overriding reason: 100 million streams a day.
Youtube isn't going anywhere, it really has only JUST begun. It will advnce just as technology keeps advancing and could someday replace television altogether. Or maybe something better than Youtube could come along?
"What it has going for it is its sheer size. In a fragmented world, there is a need for community and a need for massness."
Again, I feel that this comes back to the concept of community. True, we sit at computers by ourselves, and it is a lonely or individual act. However, the need to feel a part of something while we're engaging in this personal act shows how much people enjoy being a part of something.
"There's still a desire to have a shared cultural context. We hunger for things we can discuss."
Which is why Youtube is so convenient; we DO long to discuss things and engage. Youtube is just another way to do that and it makes discussion it easier.
I like it when there are member ratings on items. I do not see any harm in it. It would help other viewers and it would help the advertisers. It would be the viewer's choice to participate.
but also to make much of it available to amateur video makers in exchange for a
split of ad revenue.
This sounds like an interesting compromise. It still allows for creativity and no legal toes are stepped on. The only thing I would worry about is the details on the "split of ad revenue".
What Uncle Miltie and the Super Bowl and
Survivor have always
offered
is something to talk about at the water cooler, at the nail salon, or on
IM.
It is what all mass media banks on. Our human nature and our desire to laugh at someone or to question or speculate about something, like who is going to be the next on "Survivor" to win a million dollars.
I think until customrs object, advertisers will associate themselves with whatever is going to sales. We have seen over and over in other media such as TV and radio that an advertiser will pull something when there is a public outcry. Where is there barometer before that? I think it''s in their pockets and their bank accounts.
Humans love ANYTHING that gives us something to talk about. Youtube sparks conversations. What is cool about it is if someone hasn't seen a certain video, it is so easy to look up. The viewer can go back and view it whenever.
Scrapbooking is such a fun activity to get into that no person will want to stop. This is a great site that will help you get started and give a person many ideas.
I like to scrapbook. I havent done any in awhile, but I am hoping to get back into it really soon. Since I work at a Craft Store it won't take me long to get back in the habit. Even though scrapbooking is a fun hobby, it is costly. By the time a person buys scrapbooking supplies, his or her wallet is empty.