Skip to main content

Home/ Skeptics/ Group items tagged my

Rss Feed Group items tagged

Bill Tracer

Crop Circles: Alien Communications, Enlightened Spirit Messages, or Thoughtless Human V... - 1 views

  •  
    I recently participated in an e-mail group discussion on the topic of the origins of Crop Circles. After that conversation, I collected my various thoughts from this cyber chat, expanded upon it, and the following article emerged.
The Ravine / Joseph Dunphy

Mad Science: Another Stonehenge Discovered Under Lake Michigan? | Diigo - 0 views

  •  
    Further discussion of a fringe science article I mentioned earlier, over on the Ravine, my journal / homegroup here on Diigo..
The Ravine / Joseph Dunphy

Mad Science: Another Stonehenge Discovered Under Lake Michigan? - 1 views

  •  
    A very strange fringe science piece that I'll talk about in a bit (see next link, one place up on my profile): somebody claims to have found an ancient stone circle under the Lake that, as one looks at it, doesn't seem very circular. Thinking that somebody might be a little desperate to find something to publish..
Chris Innanen

Does God really exist? | DailyComet.com | The Thibodaux Daily Comet | Thibodaux, LA - 0 views

  • nothing can convince them otherwise
    • Chris Innanen
       
      It's not that nothing CAN, but that nothing HAS. They may go on to say that the probability of something convincing them decreases on a continual basis due to mounting evidence that the "a god did it" explanation is not required as our knowledge of the world increases.
  • one cannot know for certain if He exists or not
    • Chris Innanen
       
      They are actually of two main camps. One says that it can't be known by anyone. The other says it isn't known by them. Either way, the end result is that their answer to "Is there a god?" is "I don't know." But even agnostics need to choose to live their lives under the assumption that a god (or gods) exist or don't. So agnostics usually fall somewhere between deist and atheist, with the occasional half-hearted theist thrown in.
  • The fool has said in his heart, there is no God.
    • Chris Innanen
       
      This oft-quoted passage has two problems... One, while the fool may have said "there is no god", that does not mean that all who say "there is no god" are fools, though those who use the quote usually intend it to mean just that. (If the movie star said "I have cool shades", it does not follow that anyone with cool shades is a movie star.) Two, one has to take the origin of the quote as an authoritative source before the quotation has any weight, and no atheist and many agnostics do not. (The Mason rule that only a Mason can wear their ring doesn't apply to non-Masons so they too can wear the ring.)
  • ...10 more annotations...
  • rather difficult to understand
    • Chris Innanen
       
      That someone finds it difficult to understand only tells us that they have difficulty understanding. [Argument From Personal Incredulity]
  • we breathe near-perfect oxygen content
    • Chris Innanen
       
      This can be explained by the Anthropic Principal. If the air, water, and other resources - not to mention the universal constants that control the formation of stars, planets, etc - that we depend on were different, then we'd either be different to match and they would still be perfect for us, or we wouldn't be around at all to wonder why the universe is so harsh. It would be an impossibility for us to be here, as we are, thinking of this if the universe were not as it was. So the idea that the universe could be NOT suited to us is an impossibility. That an impossibility has not happened should not be that amazing to us.
  • Did all this just happen in a big bang?
    • Chris Innanen
       
      Yesterday: BANG! Today: "all this" Yes, THAT would be rather unlikely. 14 billion years ago: BANG! (a whole lot of stuff explained by science) Today: "all this" A far more reasonable proposition, and one well supported by evidence, theory, and mathematics.
  • perfect order can come out of an explosion
    • Chris Innanen
       
      Ignoring for the moment the word "perfect" (the universe is far from perfect - I can think of quite a few improvements to make just off the top of my head), order CAN emerge from chaos. Dirt falls into a moving river, the light particles are swept away while the heavy particles sink to the bottom... Just as a sieve works, order - the separation of the heavy from the light - has come from purely chaotic systems. Given enough time to accumulate (14 billion years), complex ordered systems can arise from disorder.
  • followed no recipe
    • Chris Innanen
       
      The process of order emerging from disorder provides the recipe, though perhaps only one crumb at a time, taking a hundred years to make the cake. (This is, of course, a silly annalogy, since no one thinks a cake will be created by natural rules.) A better example would be water moving over the ground in a little rivulet. It tumbles along some portion of the dirt it passes over. In time, in forms a small channel in the soil. Increase the volume of water, give the system a lot of time in which to continue this tiny process, and you eventually end up with the Grand Canyon.
  • all you will get is a big mess on your kitchen walls
    • Chris Innanen
       
      Though, you must admit, if a complete mess is what you were after in the first place, and not a cake, then the given procedure would work far better than applying the batter to the walls by hand. The separation of the heavy and light bits in a clod of dirt works much better when the clod falls into a moving stream than if it falls into lava. You CAN expect order to emerge from chaos, but not ANY order from ANY chaos. The firecracker + ingredients scenario is not a chaotic system that science would expect to produce a cake. But science does predict the formation of stars out the results of the Big Bang, and the production of heavy elements from the eventual death of those stars, and the clumping of those elements into new stars and planets, and the eventual evolution of life. Not every procedure works, but science can show us which do.
  • book called the Bible that tells us about the identity and existence of God
    • Chris Innanen
       
      The references to the existence of Abraham Lincoln are copious to put it mildly. There are numerous sources of high quality that provide many forms of evidence that corroborate each other and few to none that raise any doubts about his existence. He also no longer exists in any form except this historical information. Furthermore, should his existence in the past turn out to be purely fictional (unlikely given the above quality and quantity of evidence), the change would have little to no effect on our lives today. The Christian's god's existence is supported by one book and an oral history. The book has more than a few self-inconsistencies and holds much that most Christian scholars count to be allegorical and not factual, and oral histories of such age have little to no evidential weight. (Ever play "Telephone"?) This god is said to still exist today and could, but doesn't, self-manifest. And every day thousands of people make choices based on their god's existence that they would not make otherwise, so the question of existence in this matter IS of some import. The two examples are, quite plainly, unrelated at every point.
  • find out at death that he doesn’t
    • Chris Innanen
       
      This won't happen since given the proposition that a god does not exist, there will be no time after death where thought occurs to realize the fact. It is a fear of punishment after death due to one's non-belief that gives this view its strength. Without a belief in such an after-death state or belief in an inevitable punishment, one would have no fear. Also, several different and non-compatible religions include punishment for non-believers after their death. A person must select which is the correct one to be in fear of, since one can't be afraid of all of them at once. Once one has no fear of all but one after-death scenario, it is a small step indeed to be completely fearless instead.
  • The reason I believe God exists is because I spoke with him this morning.
    • Chris Innanen
       
      One can believe this person or not.
  • when you trust Jesus (who is God) by faith, you will experience the living God coming into your very existence
    • Chris Innanen
       
      To paraphrase: The evidence for the belief is the belief itself. To so many, this is enough. And that... is unfortunate.
buycashapp35

Buy Verified CashApp Accounts - Canada - 0 views

  •  
    You can also set up a profile so that others can see what you're doing with your account. Once you have everything set up, all you need to do is start promoting your account. You can do this by sharing your link with friends and family or by posting it on social media sites like Facebook and Twitter. When people click on your link and sign up for an account, they'll be able to use your referral code when they make their first purchase. And that's it! You'll earn cash back every time someone uses your referral code when they buy something from CashApp.
1 - 5 of 5
Showing 20 items per page