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We (Tibi, Francois, and Jonathan) had a meeting with them, we are developing a stable relationship. The owner is member of the local network in photonics, so this relation is important from a social capital standpoint. They are kind of slow responding to our demands, probably because they don't yet see a big potential. They can collaborate with us for opto-mechanica assemblies, assemplied of photonics, optical fiber... Mostly for custom design. They buy most of the parts from other places, we can do that too, but they can design and male photonic devices.