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Bill Keller's self-defense on "torture" - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com - 0 views

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    In response to the Harvard study documenting how newspapers labeled waterboarding as "torture" for almost 100 years until the Bush administration told them not to, The New York Times issued a statement justifying this behavior on the ground that it did not want to take sides in the debate. Andrew Sullivan, Greg Sargent and Adam Serwer all pointed out that "taking a side" is precisely what the NYT did: by dutifully complying with the Bush script and ceasing to use the term (replacing it with cleansing euphemisms), it endorsed the demonstrably false proposition that waterboarding was something other than torture. Yesterday, the NYT's own Brian Stelter examined this controversy and included a justifying quote from the paper's Executive Editor, Bill Keller, that is one of the more demented and reprehensible statements I've seen from a high-level media executive in some time (h/t Jay Rosen):
Michael Hughes

Battle not with monsters - the ethical dilemma of waterboarding - 0 views

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    Is waterboarding ever ethically or morally admissible? St. Augustine Just War and ticking-time bomb theory vs. violating American values, religious principles and the moral imperative.
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Glenn Greenwald: How the US Government Strikes Fear in Its Own Citizens and People Arou... - 0 views

  • Everybody knows that if you torture people you don't get good information. It was never about that. Disappearing people and putting them into orange jumpsuits, and into legal black holes and waterboarding them and freezing them and killing detainees was about signaling to the rest of world that you can not challenge or stand up to American power, because if you do, we will respond without constraints, and there is nothing anybody can or will do about it. It was about creating a climate of repression and fear to deter any would-be dissenters or challengers to American power. And that is what this war on whistleblowing and this war on Wikileaks is about as well.
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    Everybody knows that if you torture people you don't get good information. It was never about that. Disappearing people and putting them into orange jumpsuits, and into legal black holes and waterboarding them and freezing them and killing detainees was about signaling to the rest of world that you can not challenge or stand up to American power, because if you do, we will respond without constraints, and there is nothing anybody can or will do about it. It was about creating a climate of repression and fear to deter any would-be dissenters or challengers to American power. And that is what this war on whistleblowing and this war on Wikileaks is about as well.
thinkahol *

Balloon Juice » Blog Archive » Staggering Hypocrisy - 0 views

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    "It seems like a good number of you, who completely and totally lost your shit (and deservedly so) when the Bush administration waterboarded foreigners, now seem to either blithely look the other way or even endorse the concept of assassinating American citizens."
Michael Hughes

Waterboarding and Politics: Let's Play Hardball - 0 views

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    Now that we've covered the legal and strategic angles of U.S. waterbording policy, it is now time to explore the political ramifications, or, in the words of Chris Matthews: "let's talk turkey".
The Ravine / Joseph Dunphy

Waterboarding: A Tortured History : NPR - 0 views

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    Explaining the practice that many neocons like to pretend isn't torture.
Michael Hughes

Limbaugh and liberals clash on L.A. terrorist attack - 0 views

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    Limbaugh stretches truth on nuclear attack on L.A. towers, Stephanie Miller on Air America refutes him this morning.
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