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Contents contributed and discussions participated by Jesper Lund Stocholm

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Doug Mahugh : Standards-Based Interoperability - 0 views

  • Whether this is something that Microsoft is supposed to fix, as in Jomar Silva's view, is not that obvious to me.
    • Jesper Lund Stocholm
       
      My point exactly ...
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Balance of interest ~= Broader representation - O'Reilly Broadcast - 0 views

  • But I fully understand and expect that a specification for document formats will be primarily created by those vendors who are most interested, by commercial motivation, in selling products that use that standard. This is a good thing, indeed an essential thing, since that in a single shot brings together the expertise and IP rights needed to create such a standard.
    • Jesper Lund Stocholm
       
      I totally agree, Rob :o)
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Alex Brown on the ODF Zero Interop problem: The discussion to limit the use of Foreign ... - 0 views

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    So I think users need to understand, very clearly, that an ODF document/app of *either* conformance class has an EXTREMELY WEAK CLAIM TO INTEROPERABILITY. The "pure ODF conformance" sticker would be at best valueless and at worst positively misleading. So what I'd like to see is some real effort from the TC going into resolving this problem ... Alex Brown What Alex fails to mention is that the "foreign elements and alien attributes" components in the ODF Section 1.5 "Compliance and Conformance" clause was originally put there in early 2003 to provide a compatibility layer for MSOffice binary documents. Without this clause, it would be impossible to convert the billions of legacy MSOffice binary documents to ODF without breaking the fidelity. Now th OASIS ODF TC wants to limit the use of the compatiblity clause. An action that would seriously cripple Microsoft's efforts to implement ODF in MSOffice 14. No surprises here. It was only a matter of time until IBM and Sun ganged up on the newest TC member, Microsoft.
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Open Documents Standards Proposed in Texas Legislature | The Cowtown Chronicles - 0 views

  • (In fact, the new file formats in Office 2007 (docx, etc.) are based on the proposed OpenDocument format, with Microsoft’s proprietary customizations, of course.
    • Jesper Lund Stocholm
       
      Are you out of your mind?
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René Løhde (aka Rene Loehde) : 3 musketerer på V2 - 0 views

  • Vi skal have et format, beskrevet kompetent i en læselig standard af rimelig længde (dvs ikke større end en stor lærebog).  ODF opfylder disse krav, OOXML gør ikke.
    • Jesper Lund Stocholm
       
      Translation: We need a format, meticulously and carefully written/explained/documented in a readable standard of reasonable length (i.e. not bigger than an average, big teaching book). ODF meets these demands, OOXML does not.
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Publicly Available Standards - 0 views

  • ISO/IEC 29500-1:2008 Electronic inserts 1st Information technology -- Document description and processing languages -- Office Open XML File Formats -- Part 1: Fundamentals and Markup Language Reference JTC1/SC34 ISO/IEC 29500-2:2008 Electronic inserts 1st Information technology -- Document description and processing languages -- Office Open XML File Formats -- Part 2: Open Packaging Conventions JTC1/SC34 ISO/IEC 29500-3:2008 1st Information technology -- Document description and processing languages -- Office Open XML File Formats -- Part 3: Markup Compatibility and Extensibility JTC1/SC34 ISO/IEC 29500-4:2008 Electronic inserts 1st Information technology -- Document description and processing languages -- Office Open XML File Formats -- Part 4: Transitional Migration Features JTC1/SC34
    • Jesper Lund Stocholm
       
      Remenber also to download the electronic inserts containing e.g. reference schemas in electronic form.
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OOXML is defective by design: Microsoft latest bullshit : native support of ODF in Offi... - 1 views

  • Likewise, since Office 2007 is not a native XML application (the internal representation is a bunch of binary structure, not XML DOM)
    • Jesper Lund Stocholm
       
      Do any of you guys know if applications like OOo has a different internal object model? Is an ODF-document loaded into something equivilant to an XML DOM?
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IDABC - Search Results - 0 views

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    IDABC-work on interop between ODF and OOXML
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Adobe - Release PDF for Industry Standardization FAQ - 0 views

  • ODF and OOXML are input formats designed for authoring documents. Those formats favor editing over preserving an exact final presentation. PDF is primarily used as an output document, designed for distribution and markup, and it favors exact final presentation over editing. PDF thus enables either of these authoring formats to be used to deliver a consistent and complete distribution of a document, keeping the exact appearance intended by the authors.
    • Jesper Lund Stocholm
       
      Adobe's own explanation of differences between PDF and "editable document formats"
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Microsoft Expands List of Formats Supported in Microsoft Office: Move enhances customer... - 0 views

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    Microsoft press announcement: REDMOND, Wash. - May 21, 2008 - Microsoft Corp. is offering customers greater choice and more flexibility among document formats, as well as creating additional opportunities for developer and competitors, by expanding the range of document formats supported in its flagship Office productivity suite.
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ISO - News - ISO and IEC approve OpenDocument OASIS standard for data interoperability ... - 0 views

  • The OpenDocument Format OASIS standard that enables users of varying office suites to exchange documents freely with one another has just been approved for release as an ISO and IEC International Standard.
    • Jesper Lund Stocholm
       
      ODF approval in ISO
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Open Malaysia: ISO 26300 Published - 0 views

  • The OpenDocument Format (ISO 26300) has been officially published by ISO . More information is available here. This should put to rest any objections that ISO 26300 is not available in its official form for the reference of technologists.
    • Jesper Lund Stocholm
       
      The ISO-page lists the date of publication as November 30th 2006.
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The Forrester Blog For Information & Knowledge Management Professionals - 0 views

  • Wow. Microsoft opened up today, taking a nearly 180-degree turn to announce its intent to support ODF, PDF, and XPS. Overall, this is a great, positive move. While unexpected, it's not surprising. Microsoft has been moving towards more open standards, like with its recent DAISY XML initiative. But it's also a no-brainer. Sticking exclusively with its competing Open XML was divisive, complicating IT's efforts to leverage the benefits that open source XML provides.
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    Reading this I suddenly thought of the phrase "Internet tidal wave" from Bill Gates in the late 90's . I know the rest of the world don't give a damn about the document format war (as much as we do), but the move from Microsoft here is actually quite substantial.
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PT's blog » Blog Archive » Claims about ODF support are typically meaningless - 0 views

  • But folks, as of 2008-05-13 mid afternoon Toowoomba time, that Wikipedia page is not much help to people who might want to, like you know work on real documents. GoogleDocs, for example will throw away your styles if you happen to care about them. And why would you? It’s a web two-dot-oh world now what do we need with styles?
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Doug Mahugh : Office support for document format standards - 0 views

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    "This is a screen shot of a pre-release copy of SP2 (Service Pack 2) for the 2007 Microsoft Office System, showing the new document format standards that we'll be supporting starting with SP2."
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