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Paul Merrell

Closing CDF WG, Publishing Specs as Notes from Doug Schepers on 2010-07-12 (public-cdf@... - 0 views

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W3C CDF CDFWG WICD profiles standards standardized interfaces ClosedWeb

shared by Paul Merrell on 12 Jul 10 - Cached
  • Hi, CDF folks- While we had hoped that more implementations might emerge that passed the CDF and WICD test suites [1], such that these specifications would meet the criteria as W3C Recommendations, it does not seem that this will happen in a reasonable timeframe. Despite good partial implementation experience, implementers have not show sufficient interest to justify further investment of W3C resources into this group, even at a background level. In order to clarify the status of the CDF WG specifications, including Compound Document by Reference Framework 1.0 [2], Web Integration Compound Document (WICD) Core 1.0 [3], WICD Mobile 1.0 [4], and WICD Full 1.0 [5], all in Candidate Recommendation phase since July 2007, we have decided to publish them as Working Group Notes instead, and to close the Compound Document Formats Working Group.
  • Paul Merrell on 12 Jul 10
     
    This event speaks loudly to how little interest browser developershave in interoperable web solutions. One-way compatibility wins and the ability of web applications to round-trip data loses. For those that did not realize it, the Compound Document by Reference Framework not only allowes but requires that more featureful implementations round-trip the output of less featureful implementations without data loss. See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/CR-CDR-20070718/#conformance ("A conformant user agent of a superset profile specification must process subset profile content as if it were the superset profile content"). 
Paul Merrell

Rich Web Client Activity Statement - 0 views

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W3C CDF

shared by Paul Merrell on 11 Nov 09 - Cached
  • The CDF Working Group remains in hibernation pending an updated implementation report. No significant Team resources are be dedicated to this Working Group, other than coordination with implementers as progress is made. Since there is currently good progress on implementation, the expectation is that these specifications will proceed to Recommendation status, and the CDF WG will be closed.
  • Paul Merrell on 11 Nov 09
     
    My initial impression is that this is not good news, that this is a further sign of W3C abandonment of XHTML. The announcement that the WG will be closed by implication means that all CDF WG projects are coming to a standstill. The CDF WICD profiles currently have no profiles developed for spreadsheets and presentations albeit feature-rich enough to serve for web display of presentations. WICD profiles are at version. 2.0, with each 2.0 profile a superset of the 1.0 profiles. They are feature-lean in comparison to desktop word processors. The Compoound Document by Incorporation Framework  is an even more immature document, not nearly ready for prime time. All of which suggests that the Compound Document by Reference Framework itself may be the only WG work product with a shot at survival. HTML 5 and browser quirks mode wins; the world loses. Blech!
Gary Edwards

Compound Document Format and OpenDocument Foundation (Updated 2007-11-09) « C... - 1 views

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cyber-rambler OOXML-ODF-CDF

shared by Gary Edwards on 18 Jul 10 - Cached
  • The first time I heard about OpenDocument Foundation people not happy with ODF is from Stephen McGibbon post about Gary Edwards disagreement with Sun. Then comes Rob Weir’s that OpenDocument Foundation had moved away from OpenDocumentFormat. With Rob Weir post I sense some crack in OpenDocument Foundation over ODF. While Weir’s post continues its tradition of building up evidence to support his argument, he is known to be a very passionate guy about ODF and is not shy about attacking opposition, any opposition to ODF. Hence, in this respect, I believe I have to exercise a certain amount of caution when Weir start attacking someone new. Today, I came across Jason Matusow’s happy rambling about how OpenDocument Foundation is unhappy about ODF and appears to be supporting a single document format. Matusow view it as an argument that the “one document format” theory does not work. More on this later. Hmmm… Did OpenDocument Foundation change direction away from ODF? and what is this Compound Document Format (CDF) thing that seems to be the new love of OpenDocument Foundation.
  • Gary Edwards on 18 Jul 10
     
    Comments from Sam Hiser, Gary Edwards and Paul Merrill.  Excellent review of the OOXML-ODF-CDF argument.  W3C CDF work was officially cancelled, July of 2010.  The long awaited "interoperability" version of ODF, known as ODF 1.2, was released to final consideration by the OASIS community in July of 2010.  That's about three years late.  Also, they did not fix the ordered list problem :)  ha ha ha.  Broken, impossible to fix with the OOo - KDE dual application approach.  Just like we said it would be.  Morons.
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