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Deb Ryland

Your Eyes Are Bigger Than Your Stomach - 1 views

    • Deb Ryland
       
      "Make sure your eyes aren't bigger than your stomach" is the idiom I would like to share with this week's lesson. It is a saying I heard many times growing up; especially when our family of six went out to dinner (which didn't happen a whole lot). I know this was mainly to remind us as children that we shouldn't waste food, let alone pay for food and then not eat it. This idiom is reminding the person to only take what food they think they are capable of finishing. People tend to go overboard by piling up the food on their plate because they are so hungry at the time and they THINK they can order one of each item off the menu. Once they begin eating, their stomach becomes full but their plate is not empty. This is also a common occurence found at restaraunts that serve buffets; there are no limits or portion control signs warning people to stop placing food on their plate. I find it is a good idiom and reminds people not to be wasteful especially with food. To this day, I use this idiom with our son.
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    This is very good idiom and also quite current. I think it is a little bit sick that we in Western wellfare societes can throw very much food in carbage and same time other people are dying in hunger.
Michael Tribone

Malachi at the Riparian Zone | Flickr - Photo Sharing! - 2 views

    • Michael Tribone
       
      The early bird gets the worm. It's something that my grandfather, Joseph, said quite often. He meant that if you get up and get going and get it done that you'll succeed in life. Don't wait around, get up and get going. Don't wait to be told what to do, get up and do what you need to do. I thought about finding images of sunrises, birds, and such but it just doesn't fit for me. So I chose a photo of my dog. My dog's name is Malachi. We get up and do it everyday. Rain or shine. Sick or in good health. There's no design by committee. There's no pontification. It's get up and get going. Lead or be lead. Results are immediate.The early bird gets the worm says to me that you get right to the heart of he matter. It's not about being first or getting up at the crack of dawn. It means that you're laser beam focused on the task at hand and that task ay hand deserves your attention.
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    Hi Michael. It's a new idiom for me, I haven't heard this before. But in Italy we have a lot of way of saying that seem to me have the same meaning. For example it reminds me of "if you sleep you won't take fish". I think they could be both very suitable for lazy people, but I love the meaning that you have found. In some ways I can see also a sense of responsability in your idiom. I have never thought about it. Thank you!
Neus Mondaray Posada

Idiom - Daydreaming - 2 views

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    Since I was very young I've been hearing the idiom "ser un somia-truites", which literally means "to be an omelette-dreamer". It is used to explain that someone is too dreamy, not focused on the real world or the important things. It is quite similar to "to be a daydreamer". I have been accused of being an "omelette-dreamer" some times, and this is because I have many crazy-like ideas, maybe not very realistic, or difficult to put in practice. However, more than once I have proved that it was actually possible to make that unrealistic idea became a reality. This is why I love so much that expression: to me it is like they are challenging me. Otherwise, there are many things I wouldn't have even tried to do.  So every time I have a crazy idea I call myself an "omelette-dreamer" (if there are no volunteers), so at least I try to make it happen.  Because everything that has somewhen been done, had previously been an idea or a dream. 
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    I think our idioms are quite similar. They both express aspects of being absent from the present moment or the realities of the world. (My idiom is, "Having your head in the clouds.") I like how you relate your idiom to a personal challenge; that you CAN accomplish various dreams and that ideas are not always as outlandish as they may appear to others. How does the image you chose reflect your personal association with the idiom, or does it at all?
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    I agree that both of your idioms (Lindsay & Neus) are very similar in their translation to the viewer. I loved the visual Neus Mondaray Posada attached to his posting. As I read your texts, I also thought about the surrealist artist Victor Stabin. Check out his website if you have time...his images allow you to dream and feel dream-like. http://www.victorstabinprints.com/
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    Answering to Lindsay: Well, when choosing the image maybe I focused more on the feeling that the idiom transmits to me, rather than an illustration of all my explanation, and the final result it's quite confusing... The thing is that, to me, all that self-challenging and the belief that everything can be done is even relaxing. It always made me feel apart from the others .It's not too good in the beginning, but you can always try to be optimist and make the most of every situation. So, maybe this image makes more sense: http://jv.gilead.org.il/rpaul/Autour%20de%20la%20lune/images/038.jpg It's an illustration of a book by Jules Verne. He is actually the reason why I am a daydreamer. And Deb, I didn't know that artist, but his work is interesting. I love the paintings I've seen so far. Thank you for the link!
Janie Leck-Grela

http://www.tuttobimbo.it/resized.php/300x800/images/articoli/cap.jpg - 6 views

    • Teresa Maria Federici
       
      Idiom: Ricci capricci (For each curl one whim) Meaning: Curly headed people, children in particular, are supposed (and - why not? - allowed) to have one whim for each curl. I heard this idiom throughout all my childhood: I was a very curly girl, and my grandmother was used to say that idiom to my mum when I did some mess. Her intent was justifying me at my mum eyes, but for my mum this had another meaning: since I was a little curly girl, I was supposed to stomp my feet forever and ever and therefore she could resign to the idea of having a capricious daughter. But there was a third meaning, the last one: as far as I understood, for me it was simply a very funny rhyme that reminds me of a quite popular dialectal italian song, whose refrain says exactly my grandmother words: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md8zdZL1wW0 (I can translate it if you are curious!) Teresa
    • Teresa Maria Federici
       
      Ok then! I'm happy that you like it. First, this is the italian lyrics: http://wikitesti.com/index.php/La_donna_riccia It's the speech of a man explaining (probably a friend) why he doesn't have to marry a curly headed woman, NEVER! And he says: Take who you want, if you want to get married, BUT don't choose a curly headed woman. With her pretty curls she'll bewitch you but after only two months she'll leave you! Refrain: No, no, no! No, no, no! Curly headed, no! Because for each curl there is a whim! That's why I don't want a curly headed girl: Because for each curl there is a whim! That's why I don't want a curly headed girl! I don't want a culry headed girl! First he kisses you then she leaves you: you can't understand anything at all! She's like a tangled hank! She ties and unties you till that you get crazy, but if she caresses you, you surrender! Refrain (2 times): No, no, no... - So, do you want a curly headed girl? - No, no, no! - So, do you want a curly headed girl? - No, no, no! - Ok, but why? Because for each curl there is a whim! That's why I don't want a curly headed girl: I don't want a culry headed girl! I don't want a culry headed girl! No, no, no! Hope you enjoy it! Let me know! :) Teresa
    • Deb Ryland
       
      That is very funny! Thanks for the translation...now I have words to go with the tune!
    • Janie Leck-Grela
       
      I love this idiom. My three-year old daughter is a head strong curly girl. I had never hear the phrase before- but will use it now! I think it is intersting how we can endear even the most stubborn attributes in the ones we love.
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    YES...please translate Teresa. I enjoyed the upbeat rhythm of the song and would love to know what he is singing about! Your idiom is very humorous and I never heard it before. For a curly headed child who loves to be "curious", this is a blessing! ha!
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    This idiom was very nice and positive! I might use it sometimes when I do have whims that someone don't understand...:D Luckily I have curls!
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    Ah, that's why my family is whimsical--we all are curly heads :)
Annu Kangas

Kaiken keskellä Kristus - 0 views

    • Annu Kangas
       
      Idiomi: Niin metsä vastaa kuin sinne huutaa. This idiom translates "The forest answers the same way you shout in it" and it means that the way you treat other people defines the way they treat you. This implies that one should treat other people well and with respect. I think this saying is very close to Jeesus's teatching of how to treat one another (that's why the Leonardo da Vinci's Last supper). Altough nobody has ever repeated these sayings to me, I think the idea has been a major part of my upbringing.
    • Michael Tribone
       
      You get back what you give. There's a Zen or Taoist saying about negativity and it making a sound like wind through the trees. I need to find it, but the idea is that although it makes a sound it passes through.
    • Deb Ryland
       
      This is a great idiom to live by Annu! If only the entire world felt the same way. Reading this idiom and how it translates also reminds me of the "Golden Rule" explained to us through church lessons. This is perfect since it ties in with your visual. I also thought about the Greek Goddess named "Echo" as I read the idiom. My son is learning about Greek mythology (which in turm refreshes my knowledge in the subject). Michael...I would be interested to read your saying if you find it. I'm not quite sure what you mean as the "sound passes through". I must be missing something! :)
lklampi

Diigolet | Diigo - 2 views

shared by lklampi on 23 Jan 13 - Cached
    • lklampi
       
      "Hope springs eternal" Hi! My name is Laura and I'm studying special education in University of Helsinki. My saying is " Toivossa on hyvä elää", which means (as I see it) that it's good to live with a hopeful mind because you won't get as much as you wish for. It's a saying with a hint of sarcasm.. 
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    Interesting idiom Laura. It's fascinating because of how you interpret the idiom. When I read the same idiom, I see a religious meaning behind the words. If we have no hope, what do we have to live for? It is very enlightening to hear other's points of view on this same idiom. Did you have an image that accompanies this idiom? I am curious.
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    Hahaa! I see a little piece of Finnish pessimism and dark humor in that idiom... I am also curious to see your picture.
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    Thank you for your comments! I totally forgot to add the picture so here it is! It is a picture of lottery coupon. I think it reflects my idiom quite well, at least some way.. http://yle.fi/uutiset/veikkaus_samanlaiset_lottokupongit_myyjan_virhe/5978043#galleria744
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    As Katariina I see the idiom in sarcastic light. In my experience Finns use it like something will never happen. For example on the web forums where OP (original poster) is promising to report back: http://tinyurl.com/am97e58
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    Great example!
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    Idioms convey cultural ways of seeing-MAKING VISIBLE values through culturally specific humor often conveyed through images directly (e.g., omelette, curl, chin) or indirectly as with the selected images (e.g., lottery ticket, waiting so long one becomes a skeleton, nail in hand) that communicate transculturally.
Kelli Reppart

Visual Therapy » What Goes Around Comes Around // Big Ant International - 2 views

    • Kelli Reppart
       
      "What goes around, comes around." Meaning: they way you treat others will be the way you are treated. I often heard this saying as a child but it was more in response to fighting with my sisters than a broader worldview. I do not think it is limited to relationships but to how we interact with our world: emotionally, geographically, environmentally, etc. Another great illustration of this can be found with the stop-motion animation by Blu called "Big Bang, Big Boom". At about 8 minutes there is a sequence that shows the evolution of man and weapons and it literally comes around.
    • Deb Ryland
       
      Wow...what a powerful visual to go with your idiom! It's very close to Annu's idiom but in a very different light. You are so right...this message is one we should always keep in mind as we travel through this life especially if we want a life that is worth living for our children. I can't wait to check out the "Big Bang, Big Boom". I'll post on that later.
    • Deb Ryland
       
      I just viewed the video "Big Bang, Big Boom". I thoroughly enjoyed the creative process as well as the meaning behind the entire piece. Most of the work was enjoyable and then the ending...BOOM...it literally gave me a feeling of uneasiness and sickness to my stomach. Thanks for making me aware of this powerful video. On an up-beat note...your idiom also speaks about the fashion trends!
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    I liked the picture you chose for your idiom. It was hilarious and same time quite influential. I also liked your idiom. I think it honours the circle of life and reminds that everythings is related to each others. Animation Big Bang, Big Boom is also very nice fast journey to see how our planet has developed.
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    I really liked your idiom and the picture says it all! I also started thinking about my thoughts about this idiom and it says to me that everything you deny will come back to you eventually, maybe stronger than before.
Santeri Savonlahti

[Idiom]"One doesn't have to go fishing further than the sea" - 2 views

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    "Ei tarvitse mennä merta edemmäs kalaan." There is no need to seek happiness far away. I see that happiness consists of small things that can be found near you. It's a matter of own thinking. In the picture there is two Moomin characters enjoying their day on Moomin valley. Moomin are very popular and liked in Finland. More info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomin
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    Santeri, you captured my thoughts with your idiom and I totally agree: Moomins are the greatest philosopher ever. Though I was wondering if sometimes you have to go far to find happiness. (Have you ever read a novel The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho?) The idiom is about sailing at the sea. One can sail here at the Gulf of Finland or go further to the Pacific Ocean. In the end, it's the same sea.
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    Iina: Thanks for commenting. Actually I have NOT thought it that way. Excellent =) It's been been years since I read The Alchemist, and don't even remember the plot anymore. I enjoyed reading it, though,
Lindsay Bayer

Contemporary Art Concepts Glossary | AED 813: Public Pedagogy & Contemporary Art - 1 views

    • Lindsay Bayer
       
      Collaboration - Coming together to achieve a common goal, but allowing the end result to take shape based on the process of creating.  Clear intentions can become altered when the actual work is being done.  Belief in the co-creators ultimately drives the work and allows it to be fulfilled in some sort of result, whether that result was the initial intention or not.   
  • Collaboration: The term "collaboration" suggests that we cannot achieve the same goal on our own. There is a common goal and people in the group share responsibility in achieving this goal. To start a collaboration, test the compatibility of values and common interests first instead of immediately focusing on the goals. Develop TRUST that the other will do her/his part by setting RULES of cooperation. CONFLICT that occurs while renegotiating the rules builds respect.
Lindsay Bayer

Contemporary Art Concepts Glossary | AED 813: Public Pedagogy & Contemporary Art - 2 views

    • Lindsay Bayer
       
      Subjectivity - Imposing internal thoughts and emotions onto an independent matter or material.  In terms of subjectivity in contemporary art, could it be argued that "art" is not what we see, but how we respond to what we see?
    • Annu Kangas
       
      What an interesting way to put it! It is often disgussed whether it's the wiever or the artist who defines the piece of art. Whose rendition is the most important? I think art is always subjective, so one cannot put one subjectivity over another. Everyone has an unique backround and so the art we experince is our own subjective respond to what we see.
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Anya Wallace

THE MOON ICE CREAM CAKE | BOM . buy on magazine . cool stuff from the net - 0 views

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    Idiom Example: My mom always used to tell me that she and my father made sure I had nice things like jewelry so that I wouldn't go out into the world letting boys/men "tell me that the moon is ice cream" and then [I] go running for a spoon".
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    My mom always used to tell me that she and my father made sure I had nice things like jewelry so that I wouldn't go out into the world letting boys/men "tell me that the moon is ice cream" and then [I] go running for a spoon".
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    My mom always used to tell me that she and my father made sure I had nice things like jewelry so that I wouldn't go out into the world letting boys/men "tell me that the moon is ice cream" and then [I] go running for a spoon".
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