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    What choices should we be able to make about
    designer babies? A Citizens' Jury of young people
    in South Wales
    Rachel Iredale BSocSc MA PhD,* Marcus Longley MA(Oxon) MScEcon PhD, Christian Thomas
    BA MA and Anita Shaw BSc PhD§
    *Senior Lecturer, School of Care Sciences, University of Glamorgan, Pontypridd, Professor of Applied Health Policy and
    Associate Director, Welsh Institute for Health and Social Care, University of Glamorgan, Research Fellow, Wales Gene Park,
    Cardiff and §Development Director, Techniquest, Cardiff, UK
    Correspondence
    Rachel Iredale
    Genomics Policy Unit
    School of Care Sciences
    University of Glamorgan
    Pontypridd
    Mid Glamorgan
    CF37 1DL
    UK
    E-mail: riredale@glam.ac.uk
    Accepted for publication
    30 January 2006
    Keywords: Citizens Jury, decision
    making, genetics, reproduction, Wales,
    young people
    Abstract
    Background Young people will increasingly have the option of
    using new technologies for reproductive decision making but their
    voices are rarely heard in debates about acceptable public policy in
    this area. Capturing the views of young people about potentially
    esoteric topics, such as genetics, is difficult and methodologically
    challenging.
    Design A Citizens Jury is a deliberative process that presents a
    question to a group of ordinary people, allows them to examine
    evidence given by expert witnesses and personal testimonies and
    arrive at a verdict. This Citizens Jury explored designer babies in
    relation to inherited conditions, saviour siblings and sex selection
    with young people.
    Participants Fourteen young people aged 16-19 in Wales.
    Results Acceptance of designer baby technology was purposespecific; it was perceived by participants to be acceptable for
    preventing inherited conditions and to create a child to save a
    sibling, but was not recommended for sex selection. Jurors stated
    that permission should not depend on parents age, although some
    measure of suitability should be assessed. Preventing potential
    parents from going abroad was considered impractical. These young
    people felt the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority
    should have members under 20 and that the term designer baby was
    not useful.
    Conclusions Perspectives on the acceptability of this technology
    were nuanced, and based on implicit value judgements about the
    extent of individual benefit derived. Young people have valuable and
    interesting contributions to make to the debate about genetics and
    reproductive decision making and a variety of innovative methods
    must be used to secure their involvement in decision-making
    processes.
    doi: 10.1111/j.1369-7625.2006.00387.x
     2006 The Authors. Journal compilation  2006 Blackwell Publishing Ltd Health Expectations, 9, pp.207-217 207Introduction
    There has been much research on the public
    understanding of genetics in the last decade.
    1-7
    It is sometimes suggested that the public
    understanding of the new genetics is poor,
    8
    yet it
    has been demonstrated that the public can hold
    complex social and ethical views on the subject
    without necessarily having complete or even
    accurate information, and are capable of conducting sophisticated discussions on genetics.
    9
    Most people have some conversational familiarity with genetic terminology, often because of
    exposure to stories in the media.
    10
    Public
    understanding is not necessarily linked to technical knowledge and increased knowledge does
    not translate automatically into acceptance of
    new genetic technologies. Calnan et al.
    11
    has
    shown that most people are positive about science and technology, but with a substantial
    minority consistently showing scepticism about
    some of its benefits. Others argue that some
    applications of genetics are perceived to be
    unacceptable because they violate a society's
    religious or moral standards, or are rejected as
    not useful to society; other applications might be
    useful but they are too risky, while others may
    be judged moral, useful and safe but remain
    unwanted because those controlling the technology are not to be trusted.
    12
    Research in this area has been mixed and ranges
    from public opinion polls to the use of deliberative techniques, such as focus groups or consensus
    conferences, in an attempt to untangle what the
    general public thinks about the new genetics and
    how it impacts on their social world. Very little of
    this research however, is fed directly into the
    policy-making process and there is restricted discourse between ordinary members of the public
    and policy makers. Furthermore, most of this
    research has been conducted with adults.
    Public consultation on genetics and reproductive
    decision making
    In July 2004 the Human Genetics Commission
    (HGC) launched a public consultation -
    Choosing the Future: Genetics and Reproductive Decision Making - which sought the views
    of the British public on these issues.
    13
    The HGC
    argued that the term designer babies could be
    used to refer to a range of reproductive techniques including the use of sex selection techniques to prevent the birth of children with
    X-linked diseases; preimplantation genetic
    diagnosis to select for embryos free from genetic
    disorders; selection techniques for egg, sperm or
    embryo donors with particular characteristics,
    and the enhancement of features such as intelligence, sporting ability or attractiveness. They
    set a number of questions about specific issues
    pertaining to genetics and reproductive decision
    making as well as asking people to outline their
    hopes and fears for the future.
    Given that today's young people will be the
    first generation to make use of new reproductive
    technologies we felt it was important that their
    voices be heard in this debate and should inform
    the HGC consultation. Preliminary research at
    Techniquest, the science discovery centre in
    Cardiff, using focus groups across Wales demonstrated that within the area of genetics and
    reproductive decision making the subject of
    designer babies is one which young people are
    familiar with, can relate to, and consider a key
    issue in the genetics and reproductive decisionmaking debate.
    Young people are more likely to engage with an
    issue the more immediate it is.
    14-16
    Curtis et al.
    17
    argues that methods for effective consultation
    with young people on health issues are improving.
    Every approach must be flexible and age-appropriate so we decided to gather the views of young
    people aged 16-19 in Wales in a Citizens Jury on
    the question Designer babies: what choices
    should we be able to make?. The aim of this paper
    was to describe the Young People's Citizens Jury
    on Designer Babies in Wales, and to offer some
    reflections on what they considered to be acceptable public policy in this area.
    Method
    Citizens Juries are an important way of facilitating informed debate into the policy-making
    process. Modelled on the juries used in legal
    Young people's Citizens Jury on designer babies, R Iredale et al.
     2006 The Authors. Journal compilation  2006 Blackwell Publishing Ltd Health Expectations, 9, pp.207-217
    208trials, a Citizens Jury typically meets for a period of 3-5 days during which jurors are presented with an issue, have a chance to examine
    evidence, interrogate expert witnesses, debate all
    aspects of the topic and present a decision on the
    policy question posed. A Citizens Jury differs
    from a legal trial in that much more interaction
    amongst jurors, and particularly between jurors
    and witnesses, takes place in a Citizens Jury.
    Jurors engage in group work and discussions
    and have considerable opportunity to crossexamine witnesses after they have presented
    their evidence. The Jury then deliberates over
    the evidence together and a number of recommendations are agreed with the help of a trained
    moderator. A Citizens Jury is based on the
    premise that ordinary people given enough
    opportunity, time, support and resources are
    eminently capable of arriving at decisions about
    complex policy matters.
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    Citizens Juries have
    been used in the UK to tackle a variety of subjects, including inter alia, housing, insurance,
    hospital closure and genetically modified foods.
    They were used in Wales for the first time in
    1997 to explore the public's attitudes to genetic
    testing for common disorders in the National
    Health Service (NHS).
    5,19
    Recruitment
    Trying to get 16 young people to form a Citizens Jury involved a variety of innovative
    methodological approaches. We were keen to
    ensure the Jury was diverse so we wanted jurors
    to broadly represent the Welsh population aged
    16-19 which meant that two-thirds were to be in
    full-time education. Recruiting young people
    still at school was relatively easy; attracting
    those no longer in full-time education required a
    variety of different approaches, often working
    with young people's groups and organizations as
    intermediaries, to ensure the quota of one-third
    required. In the event, four of the 14 jurors were
    not in full-time education.
    Flyers about the project were given out to students visiting Techniquest as part of their A-level
    courses, and were posted to all schools on Techniquest's database, employers in the Cardiff area,
    colleagues in local universities, nurseries and
    after-school clubs. It was a challenge to get
    marginalized young people involved in an extended deliberative process, so key workers in
    organizations such as Sure Start, Barnardos and
    Tros Gynol (for children in care) were also targeted. Wales has a relatively well-developed
    infrastructure for young people's participation in
    public policy making. Wales was the first of the
    UK countries to establish a Children's Commissioner, reflecting many years of work by Children
    in Wales (representatives from which moderated
    the Jury) and others to ensure that the UN Declaration of the Rights of the Child shapes the
    policy framework for children and young people
    in Wales. This national structure complements a
    well-developed local infrastructure, with each
    local authority in Wales sponsoring its own children's and young people's forum drawn from
    School Councils and other young people's bodies,
    and ultimately linked to the Wales Youth Parliament and Funky Dragon, a Welsh Assemblysponsored Internet forum for young people. All
    of these organizations were also given information about the Jury and asked to advertise a series
    of pre-Jury meetings.
    Participants
    Two pre-Jury meetings were held in Techniquest
    on Saturday mornings in July 2004. The purpose
    of these meetings was to explain to the young
    people who had expressed an interest in being a
    juror what the process of a Citizens Jury
    involved and to elicit from them a firm commitment that they wanted to be considered as a
    juror. At this meeting they were told the project
    would take up 3
    1
    2
    days of their time and that
    they would be paid a daily rate of £50 per day
    plus travel expenses. A total of 37 young people
    registered after these pre-meetings and from this
    list a stratified random sample of 16 people was
    chosen to give broadly equal numbers of males
    and females in the Jury, of which one-third were
    outside the formal school system. Two people
    (both male) dropped out the morning the Jury
    commenced. A demographic breakdown of the
    Jury (n ¼ 14) is given in Table 1.
    Young people's Citizens Jury on designer babies, R Iredale et al.
     2006 The Authors. Journal compilation  2006 Blackwell Publishing Ltd Health Expectations, 9, pp.207-217
    209Preparation
    The establishment of a steering group is often
    the key to the success and legitimacy of the
    project.
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    This Citizens Jury was formally
    guided by a steering committee, composed of
    academics, clinicians, policy makers, patient
    representatives and young people, who met three
    times between January and August 2004. We
    were concerned about providing unbiased
    information to the Jury and consulted the
    steering committee about the choice of witnesses. We were advised on types of witness for each
    session and offered suitable names; in addition,
    the young people at the pre-meetings had
    requested that some witness evidence be given by
    people with direct personal experience of genetics and reproductive decision making. A range
    of young people was also consulted at every
    stage of the process. For example, their opinions
    on the terminology and topics were sought in
    focus groups; they were represented at steering
    committee meetings; others reviewed some of the
    written and visual evidence that was presented to
    the Jury, and were asked for their opinions
    about everything from the venue, to the type of
    food that should be served.
    Process
    The Citizens Jury ran for 3
    1
    2
    days in September
    2004 and was moderated by two trained facilitators from Children in Wales with experience in
    engaging young people. The first half day
    focused on establishing trust, laying down
    ground rules, developing a common sense of
    purpose, ensuring everyone understood the
    process and encouraging the young people to
    develop some ownership of the Jury. One session
    was devoted entirely to the science of genetics
    and reproductive technologies; this was requested in the planning discussions with young
    people. Information was provided in a variety of
    different ways, such as video clips, newspaper
    articles and games, in order to make it as
    interesting and as interactive as possible.
    The Citizens Jury was divided into three stages, relating to three of the main potential uses
    of the technology: (1) to prevent inherited diseases, (2) to save the life of an existing child with
    a serious medical condition (saviour siblings),
    and (3) for non-medical reasons such as sex
    selection. The Jury listened to 12 expert witnesses each speaking for approximately 15 min.
    Witnesses included clinicians, academics,
    researchers, policy makers and advisors, as well
    as individuals with direct personal experience of
    the issues as patients/service users and their
    families. Witness presentations moved between
    those that focused on general principles and
    were intended to be adversarial to the case
    studies delivered by ordinary people presenting
    personal testimonies on how the issues had
    affected them and their families. Each witness
    was briefed in advance with guidelines about
    talking to young people (produced by the moderators) and asked to submit their argument in
    written form in a couple of paragraphs so that
    jurors could assimilate the main arguments in
    advance of their session. Witness presentations
    Table 1 Demographic breakdown of Jury
    Gender
    Female 8
    Male 6
    Ages
    16 3
    17 6
    18 3
    19 2
    In full-time education
    Yes 10
    No 4
    Welsh speaking
    Yes 2
    No 12
    Were parents
    Yes 2
    No 12
    Registered disabled
    Yes 2
    No 12
    Religion
    None 7
    Christian (unspecified) 3
    Roman Catholic 2
    Hindu 1
    Muslim 1
    Young people's Citizens Jury on designer babies, R Iredale et al.
     2006 The Authors. Journal compilation  2006 Blackwell Publishing Ltd Health Expectations, 9, pp.207-217
    210were also open to members of the public to
    ensure the process was transparent, and there
    were a number of observers every day. The
    jurors questioned the witnesses directly, immediately following their presentation. Approximately a third of the total time was devoted to
    discussions and other interaction amongst the
    jurors themselves.
    Every witness presentation was tape-recorded
    and videoed, as were the discussions between
    witnesses and jurors and between jurors themselves. Other methods used to gather data
    included hand-held video cameras used by
    jurors; juror diaries; pre- and post-Jury questionnaires and individual interviews with jurors
    1 month after the event. Data analysis involved
    compiling summary statistics and using thematic
    categories for the qualitative data.
    Results
    Participants discussed general concerns in relation to the three main applications of designer
    baby technology, compiled a verdict of their
    main recommendations, and outlined many of
    their hopes and fears for the future.
    Inherited conditions
    This was the least controversial of the three
    applications. A majority of the Jury believed
    that potential parents should be able to choose
    to make use of assisted reproductive techniques
    to prevent inherited conditions from being
    passed on and to prevent serious suffering. The
    Jury also supported the idea that at least one
    attempt should be available free-of-charge to all
    on the NHS, just like any other health service in
    the UK. The Jury was almost evenly divided on
    whether permission should depend on the
    severity of the condition. For some, it was
    important to prevent parents from designing
    babies for frivolous reasons; for others the
    judgement of the parents concerned was the
    determining factor. One girl claimed No-one
    should be allowed to consciously pass on a
    genetic condition to the next generation if the
    condition can be stopped with a young man
    arguing the opposite No-one in the UK should
    be allowed to scan and remove illness as illness is
    an important part of society… if we remove illness where do we end, removing everything we
    believe to be undesirable. A minority of the Jury
    (n ¼ 2) believed that such technologies were an
    unacceptable interference with human life,
    regardless of the severity of the genetic disease.
    It was felt that these techniques would inevitably
    undermine the uniqueness of each individual,
    and encourage the idea that some people are
    inherently better than others.
    Saviour siblings
    A majority of the Jury also supported the principle of designing babies for the purpose of
    curing existing children with serious medical
    conditions - saviour siblings. It was felt that
    parents were unlikely to discriminate in any
    adverse way between their children on the basis
    that they were or were not designed for a particular purpose:
    It is the type of parent you are, if you are going to
    design a baby and you are going to go to that
    trouble to save the child then you will love that
    child as much.
    Again the majority felt that given this is
    essentially a health service, it should be available
    on the NHS. The minority who opposed this
    particular application of designer babies perceived that designing a baby for the benefit of
    another undermines the dignity of the one who
    has been designed - …it should be loved … not
    just for its parts.
    Sex selection
    This was the most controversial of the possible
    applications. The majority of the Jury was
    opposed to designing babies for a non-medical
    reason such as selecting the sex of a future child
    (10/14, with 3 Don't Know). Whilst the relief of
    suffering - either of the designed baby or a sibling - may be sufficient justification for interfering with natural processes, to do this for other
    reasons (such as family balancing) is to imply
    Young people's Citizens Jury on designer babies, R Iredale et al.
     2006 The Authors. Journal compilation  2006 Blackwell Publishing Ltd Health Expectations, 9, pp.207-217
    211that the designed child is a possession of the
    parent. Acceptance of designer baby technology
    in this area therefore appeared to be contingent
    upon perceived utility. Only one person actively
    supported sex selection and she argued:
    As a parent I have had two caesarean births, and I
    have had two girls. I would love to have a little boy
    to finish my family … It should be allowed definitely.
    The verdict
    The Jury's verdict was compiled on the third full
    day by using a series of votes to reflect discussions on the main topics (see Table 2).*
    Regulation
    There was much discussion on how regulatory
    principles should be applied in this area. All the
    jurors supported the existence of some form of
    regulatory regime in the UK. They felt that the
    regulator should set and enforce quality of care
    standards for each clinic, and that each application to design a baby should be considered
    individually by the regulator (by applying
    standard rules) to allow for exceptional cases.
    Jurors were particularly concerned that all
    applicants should receive a fair and swift hearing
    from the regulator, and that their individual
    circumstances should be fully explored before a
    decision is made. Jurors were concerned with
    welfare of the child arguments and claimed that
    regulation must endeavour to ensure that parents are unlikely to abuse or in any way discriminate against the designed child. Most
    believed the age of the parents was not a relevant
    factor on its own for decision making. Finally,
    there was broad agreement that it would be
    impractical to prevent potential parents from
    travelling abroad to avail of fertility tourism in
    order to avoid UK regulation.
    Two other key issues emerged from the group
    discussion. First of all, the majority of the Jury
    felt that policy-making bodies - and in particular the Human Fertilisation and Embryology
    Authority (HFEA) - should be more representative of people who will be affected most by
    policy developed in this area. Thus, they argued
    that the HFEA should include some members
    within their age range, i.e. under 20. Secondly, at
    the end of the process the Jury decided that the
    term designer babies was not a useful description for the processes that were currently being
    Table 2 The verdict
    Agree Disagree
    Don't
    know
    1. People should be allowed to design babies to prevent genetic conditions
    from being passed on
    12 2 0
    2. Permission for this should depend on the severity of the condition 7 6 1
    3. The service should be available on the NHS 10 2 2
    4. People should be able to design babies to save their siblings 13 1 0
    5. Permission for this should depend on the severity of the condition 10 3 1
    6. The service should be available on the NHS 9 3 2
    7. People should not be allowed to design babies for the sole purpose of sex
    selection (with no health benefit)
    10 1 3
    8. Permission to design babies should depend on parents suitability 11 2 1
    9. Permission to design babies should not depend on the parents age 10 4 0
    10. People should be not be prevented from going abroad to avoid UK
    regulation on designer babies
    11 3 0
    11. The HFEA should have some members under the age of 20 10 2 2
    12. The term designer babies is not a useful phrase 12 1 1
    *Video clips of witness presentations and a full copy of the
    Jury's Verdict can be downloaded from http://www.
    wgp.cf.ac.uk/CitizensJury.htm
    Young people's Citizens Jury on designer babies, R Iredale et al.
     2006 The Authors. Journal compilation  2006 Blackwell Publishing Ltd Health Expectations, 9, pp.207-217
    212utilized, as it creates a false impression about
    what is actually happening. The majority felt
    that these processes were much better described
    as embryo selection.
    Main concerns
    Some of the hopes and fears as summarized by
    the jurors are listed in Table 3. The following
    excerpt gives a flavour of how some of the discussions between participants were conducted
    and illustrates some of the wider social and
    ethical issues that were considered when debating different aspects of embryo selection:
    Male2: …and not just use you … I think Saviour
    Siblings are great as long as you don't do that,
    what you said there, give it away. That is just like
    abusing it.
    M4: If you don't want a baby you can help, you
    look after the best interests of that baby by putting
    it up for adoption.
    Female1: Then the mother may lose the sick child
    and gives the other one up for adoption and is now
    left with…
    F2: I think it should be allowed … I think if they
    have the disease to have another child.
    M2: I can understand giving the baby up for
    adoption if you didn't want it in the first place, but
    you did want the child because you paid to have it.
    M5: A baby is to love, not just to have stems [stem
    cells] out of.
    M2: We have seen the mother having the baby,
    using the stem cells and keeping those for another
    baby
    F2: People should have the choice.
    F3: It is the type of parent you are, if you are going
    to design a baby and you are going to go to that
    trouble to save the child then you will love that
    child as much.
    M2: Do you know what annoys me the most, if it
    was someone like Tony Blair, and he had a disabled child and he needed to do something about
    it, he would get away with it, he could do it and I
    think it is unfair. Everybody has the right, no
    matter what.
    F1: You are not allowed to do that. You are not
    allowed to bring a child into the world and then
    kill it.
    M4: You are not going to be able to do that.
    Table 3 Jurors hopes and fears
    Hopes
    In an ideal future I hope that designer baby technology
    will allow people to:
    Fears
    If things go wrong the following might happen:
    Be able to have children, if they so wished People would design babies for selfish reasons, i.e. not to
    prevent illness or suffering
    Make informed reproductive choices, free from all
    outside pressure
    Eugenics might come to dominate policy
    Have equal rights and opportunities in life, regardless
    of personal impairment
    Saviour siblings who failed to save might be rejected
    Avoid the suffering of children with inherited conditions Accidental damage might be caused to designed babies
    Live longer, healthier lives There could be future imbalance between the sexes
    Stay together as families for longer if the tensions
    sometimes caused by serious inherited conditions
    could be avoided
    An obsession with the quest for perfection would arise
    Have advance knowledge of their unborn child's health,
    and be prepared
    There would be increased social pressures to design
    Have access to designer baby technology where
    appropriate, regardless of cost or where they live
    There could be prejudice and discrimination against
    non-designed babies
    Young people's Citizens Jury on designer babies, R Iredale et al.
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    213The impact of the process
    It is not possible in the UK to carry out research
    on how the evidence (or the rest of the process)
    impacts on the views of jurors engaged in
    criminal or other legal proceedings. Fortunately,
    this restriction does not apply to Citizens Juries.
    The detailed analysis of the transcripts and other
    material chronicles the various arguments
    advanced by the jurors in their discussions, and
    records their verdicts on the various witnesses.
    There are many examples of jurors changing
    their minds on specific issues, and sometimes of
    changing them back again. Taking all the possible applications of designer baby technology
    together, at the end of the Jury, most jurors (11
    of 14) strongly agreed or tended to agree that
    designer baby technology would be useful for
    society; but also that it would be risky (12 of 14).
    The perceived risk related almost entirely to
    misuse of the technology rather than to any
    inherent clinical dangers, for example creating
    babies for frivolous reasons, or systematic
    attempts to impose certain options on would-be
    parents.
    Jurors were more evenly divided on whether
    the use of such technology was morally
    acceptable (five agreed, six disagreed), and
    should be encouraged (seven agreed, four did
    not). When asked to respond to the statement
    I would seriously consider designing my own
    babies in the future, six agreed and seven
    disagreed. In general, the process seems to
    have made jurors more optimistic about the
    future use of designer baby technology. At the
    end of the preparatory half day, and again at
    the end of the Jury, jurors were asked to
    respond to the question: Are you generally
    optimistic or pessimistic about the future use
    of designer baby technology?. The results are
    shown in Table 4.
    On being a juror
    Jurors were also invited to keep diaries as the
    Jury progressed. These are some of the quotes
    from those diaries illustrating what participants
    felt about the process:
    I was nervous at first, but once involved within the
    group, I felt a part of a team
    It's been a rollercoaster of a ride these past few
    days, but very interesting
    It was good to talk properly as a whole about every
    topic discussed throughout. There are so many
    different points of view and it is good that we are
    not all the same
    My opinion has totally changed both ways from
    neutral. The witnesses and knowledge I have
    acquired has enabled me to make my final decision
    At first I was concerned that designer babies would
    take over and that it would get out of hand,
    however after these 3 days I've noticed that
    because the issues themselves are so sensitive and
    in the limelight, human instinct would never take
    us that far
    Dissemination
    One week after the Jury concluded their deliberations a celebration evening was held for
    jurors, their families, the press and other invited
    guests at which their recommendations were
    discussed and people were given the opportunity
    to ask jurors questions both about the process
    and how they arrived at their conclusions. In
    November 2004 some jurors then presented their
    verdict at the Welsh Assembly Government to
    the Health and Social Affairs Committee. In
    December 2004 some jurors also presented to
    Table 4 Jurors views on the future use of designer baby
    technology
    Start
    of Jury
    End
    of Jury
    Very optimistic
    1 1 1
    2 0 5
    3 3 2
    4 7 3
    5 1 0
    6 0 0
    Very pessimistic
    7 1 1
    Don't know/no response 1 2
    Young people's Citizens Jury on designer babies, R Iredale et al.
     2006 The Authors. Journal compilation  2006 Blackwell Publishing Ltd Health Expectations, 9, pp.207-217
    214the Genetics and Reproductive Decision Making
    sub-group of the HGC in London, and in February 2005 to the HFEA.
    There was extensive regional and local coverage of the project on TV, radio and in the
    newspapers, and considerable interest in the
    methodology from public organizations struggling with their responsibility to engage young
    people in their decision-making processes.
    Discussion
    A Citizens Jury is a method which can engage
    young people in a meaningful way. Our participants had valuable and interesting things to say
    about designer babies and they demonstrated
    that they could move beyond their individual
    opinions and make recommendations that they
    felt were best for society as a whole.
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    They used
    everyday experience to think about genetics and
    reproductive decision making, and the possibility of harm was often rebutted with positive
    personal experiences. On many issues these
    young people were able to reach agreement
    about fundamental values as a result of debate
    and discussion, although in many cases, and as
    Table 2 suggests, they also reached different
    conclusions about the practical implications to
    be drawn from those values, and on their relative
    weighting.
    As a research project, this Citizens Jury has
    yielded fascinating data. The values, priorities
    and epistemological premises of the jurors were
    thrown into sharp contrast by the many emotional and intellectual challenges of the topic,
    and the intensity of the process. Considering
    some of the challenges that had to be overcome;
    for example, arranging childcare, organizing lifts
    to Cardiff, and overcoming disabilities, all participants showed huge commitment to the process. In fact, at the end of the Jury everyone said
    they would have participated regardless of the
    money they received.
    There is much literature about the extent to
    which citizens are competent to question the
    knowledge claims of specialists in complex
    decision-making processes.
    22
    Although we did
    not rigorously test knowledge at the end of this
    project, none of the jurors felt that they had
    insufficient knowledge to contribute to discussions; the rationale for the introductory sessions
    explaining genetics and reproductive technologies was to allow jurors to concentrate on the
    social and ethical issues. Nor was there any
    evidence that these young people experience the
    so-called authority effect - the inevitable
    deferral to experts - at any time.
    23
    This had been
    a concern before the Jury took place, and
    formed a key element of the briefs given to the
    moderators and the witnesses. That the problem
    was largely avoided is perhaps due in part to
    careful preparation, both of the jurors themselves with the moderators re-iterating
    throughout that it was the responsibility of the
    Jury to make its own decisions, and in relation
    to planning the evidence as most viewpoints
    were contested by opposing witnesses. It may
    also have had much to do with the essential
    independence of mind of the particular jurors
    involved, many of whom were more inclined to
    dispute arguments rather than accept them
    passively.
    New genetic citizens
    24
    should not only be
    informed but also have the right and the duty to
    be active in decision making about the use of
    genetic technologies and genetic information.
    11
    Genetics has recently received a big policy push
    in the UK.
    25
    Genetics and reproductive decision
    making are difficult subjects, combining cuttingedge science and technology with complex ethical and legal issues, making it an area where a
    substantial element of reflection and interactivity is required for robust lay views to
    emerge.
    26
    It is also an area in which the views of
    young people - themselves on the threshold of
    making reproductive decisions - are particularly
    relevant, representing as they do the generation
    which will be first to access significant new
    reproductive technologies and relevant genetic
    information.
    Citizen deliberation is a prominent theme in
    health policy literature.
    27
    The usefulness of a
    Citizens Jury is that it emphasizes citizens
    rational deliberation rather than gut instinct or
    the immediate preferences of a consumer
    28
    - the
    Jury reaches judgements rather than registering
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    215attitudes. Kashefi and Mort
    20
    argue that the
    major weakness of the Citizens Jury model is
    that it simply extracts the public view without
    any built-in mechanisms for follow-up, scrutiny
    or accountability. Another limitation is the cost
    involved - this Citizens Jury cost £25 000
    (excluding staff time). Different versions of the
    Citizens Jury are evolving.
    29,30
    In some versions
    the Jury's verdict is presented to sponsors or
    commissioners for consideration, who may be
    contracted to respond to the Jury's recommendations within a set period. This Citizens Jury
    fell victim to this criticism as there was no
    immediate decision to be made and no commissioning body to report to; however it did
    provide a useful input into the deliberations of
    key policy-making bodies (in the case of the
    Human Genetics Commission, feeding into a
    specific consultation) and the impact on jurors
    themselves was immense. The views of these
    young people were an important addition to
    what is usually a debate amongst experts and
    committed lobbying groups that privileges those
    with scientific and linguistic capabilities.
    31,32
    All
    of us with an interest in genetics and reproductive decision making need to ensure we listen to
    their voices.
    Acknowledgements
    Thanks to all the young people who participated
    in every stage of this project. They are too
    numerous to mention by name but every contribution was gratefully received. Thanks to the
    steering group who regularly gave of their time to
    discuss matters of process or content. Particular
    thanks go to the two moderators from Children in
    Wales - Sean O'Neill and Mike Lewis - and to
    staff at Techniquest, University of Glamorgan
    and the Wales Gene Park for assistance with
    administrative tasks. This project was funded by
    the Wellcome Trust (ref: 074657/Z/04/Z).
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