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Gheorghe Stefanov

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    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Mi se pare interesanta diferenta dintre "a fi contrar experientelor mele" si "a nu fi conform cu experientele mele (trecute)"
Gheorghe Stefanov

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  • From this circumstance alone, that a controversy has been long kept on foot, and remains still undecided, we may presume that there is some ambiguity in the expression, and that the disputants affix different ideas to the terms employed in the controversy
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Dar de ce? Mai multi oameni cauta o solutie la o problema. Fiecare propune o solutie, dar nici una nu e perfecta si e greu de stabilit care e solutia mai buna. Daca problema nu e presanta, discutia poate dura mult timp, pana la aparitia unei solutii care sa fie in mod evident mai buna. Dar termenii folositi pana atunci nu erau neclari.
  • it were impossible, if men affix the same ideas to their terms, that they could so long form different opinions of the same subject
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      si totusi: unele probleme sunt dificile; iar uneori e greu sa realizezi ca gresesti; sau ca te ocupi de o falsa problema :)
  • if men attempt the discussion of questions which lie entirely beyond the reach of human capacity
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      si cum stim cand am depasit limitele cunoasterii omenesti?
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  • if the question regard any subject of common life and experience, nothing, one would think, could preserve the dispute so long undecided but some ambiguous expressions
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      dar unele probleme sunt reale si pot primi o rezolvare, chiar daca nu privesc viata de toate zilele; invers, "ce a gandit despre mine X pe patul mortii?", is a subject of common life and experience, si totusi se plaseaza dincolo de limitele cunoasterii omenesti (presupunand ca X nu mi-a spus ce gandeste despre mine inainte sa moara)
  • the long disputed question concerning liberty and necessity
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      este aceasta o problema a vietii de toate zilele?
  • a few intelligible definitions would immediately have put an end to the whole controversy
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      altfel spus, nu e vorba de o falsa problema, ci de o "cearta pe cuvinte"
  • all men have ever agreed in the doctrine both of necessity and of liberty, according to any reasonable sense, which can be put on these terms; and that the whole controversy has hitherto turned merely upon words
  • a living creature may as soon arise from the shock of two bodies as motion in any other degree or direction than what is actually produced by it
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      daca lovesc bine bila neagra la biliard, mai degraba ar aparea un soarece din ciocnirea ei cu bila alba, decat sa nu intre bila neagra in gaura din coltul mesei"
  • Our idea, therefore, of necessity and causation arises entirely from the uniformity observable in the operations of nature, where similar objects are constantly conjoined together, and the mind is determined by custom to infer the one from the appearance of the other
  • Beyond the constant conjunction of similar objects, and the consequent inference from one to the other, we have no notion of any necessity or connexion
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      altfel spus: nu avem cum sa intelegem altceva prin necesitate (i.e. necesitate fizica), fiindca orice altceva nu ne-ar fi permis sa ne formam ideea de necesitate
  • Ambition, avarice, self-love, vanity, friendship, generosity, public spirit: these passions, mixed in various degrees, and distributed through society, have been, from the beginning of the world, and still are, the source of all the actions and enterprises, which have ever been observed among mankind
  • Mankind are so much the same, in all times and places, that history informs us of nothing new or strange in this particular
  • These records of wars, intrigues, factions, and revolutions, are so many collections of experiments, by which the politician or moral philosopher fixes the principles of his science, in the same manner as the physician or natural philosopher becomes acquainted with the nature of plants, minerals, and other external objects, by the experiments which he forms concerning them
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      e o diferenta intre observatie si experiment, dar lucrul asta nu e probabil prea important aici
  • So readily and universally do we acknowledge a uniformity in human motives and actions as well as in the operations of body.
  • were there no uniformity in human actions, and were every experiment which we could form of this kind irregular and anomalous, it were impossible to collect any general observations concerning mankind
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ce legatura e, totusi, intre uniformitate si necesitate? ce daca reactionez intr-o anumita situatie la fel ca majoritatea oamenilor, daca eu am ales sa reactionez in modul respectiv si as fi putut alege sa reactionez altfel?
  • We must not, however, expect that this uniformity of human actions should be carried to such a length as that all men, in the same circumstances, will always act precisely in the same manner, without making any allowance for the diversity of characters, prejudices, and opinions
  • Even the characters, which are peculiar to each individual, have a uniformity in their influence; otherwise our acquaintance with the persons and our observation of their conduct could never teach us their dispositions, or serve to direct our behaviour with regard to them
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Mai e un lucru: noi nu ne formam asteptari cu privire la comportamentul si inclinatiile cunoscutilor pe baza unor explicatii cauzale (vorbim mai degraba despre scopurile urmarite de oameni, nu de cauzele care actioneaza asupra lor)
  • From the observation of several parallel instances, philosophers form a maxim that the connexion between all causes and effects is equally necessary, and that its seeming uncertainty in some instances proceeds from the secret opposition of contrary causes.
  • The most irregular and unexpected resolutions of men may frequently be accounted for by those who know every particular circumstance of their character and situation.
  • Or even when an action, as sometimes happens, cannot be particularly accounted for, either by the person himself or by others; we know, in general, that the characters of men are, to a certain degree, inconstant and irregular.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Aici Hume nu mi se pare deloc convingator.
  • The internal principles and motives may operate in a uniform manner, notwithstanding these seeming irregularities; in the same manner as the winds, rain, clouds, and other variations of the weather are supposed to be governed by steady principles; though not easily discoverable by human sagacity and enquiry.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Altfel spus, daca am sti care sunt toti factorii care influenteaza comportamentul omenesc si am avea toate datele de care avem nevoie, am putea prevedea comportamentul oamenilor asa cum putem prevedea eclipsele.
Gheorghe Stefanov

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  • We have sought in vain for an idea of power or necessary connexion in all the sources from which we could suppose it to be derived
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      again, una e sa vorbesti despre o conexiune necesara in natura, iar aici Hume pare sa aiba dreptate, si alta e sa vorbesti de o conexiune "logic necesara"
  • All events seem entirely loose and separate
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ce legatura e intre ideea asta si ideea atomismului logic?
  • They seem conjoined, but never connected
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  • there still remains one method of avoiding this conclusion
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      nu vrem sa spunem, totusi, ca "putere" e o expresie lipsita de inteles, precum "trewoiuoi"
  • It appears, then, that this idea of a necessary connexion among events arises from a number of similar instances which occur of the constant conjunction of these events
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      v. varianta lui Kant: ideea exista in minte (e o idee a intelectului) si e doar aplicata la conexiunile regulate de evenimente
  • What alteration has happened to give rise to this new idea of connexion? Nothing but that he now feels these events to be connected in his imagination, and can readily foretell the existence of one from the appearance of the other.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      dar daca nu gandim precum Kant, ce anume a produs ideea de conexiune (vs. simpla alaturare) in imaginatia mea?
  • A conclusion which is somewhat extraordinary, but which seems founded on sufficient evidence
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Dar noi am vazut, in cel mai bun caz, doar ca oamenii pe care i-am intalnit au ajuns la ideea de conexiune necesara pe baza obisnuintei etc. Asta nu inseamna, pastrand atitudinea lui Hume, ca toti ajung asa sau ca toti vor ajunge asa la acea idee. :)
  • The only immediate utility of all sciences, is to teach us, how to control and regulate future events by their causes
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Functia predictiva e cea mai importanta in stiinta - si ideea asta poate fi pusa in discutie.
  • Similar objects are always conjoined with similar. Of this we have experience. Suitably to this experience, therefore, we may define a cause to be an object, followed by another, and where all the objects similar to the first are followed by objects similar to the second.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      postulam existenta unor legaturi cauzale intre obiecte care seamana cu unele intre care am stabilit deja ca ar exista o legatura cauzala? sunt doi frati gemeni, iar unul are doua fete, surori gemene; pe baza faptului ca stiu ca X e tatal uneia dintre fete ajung sa presupun ca fratele lui geaman e tatal celeilalte? (ok, poate nu e bun exemplul)
  • We say, for instance, that the vibration of this string is the cause of this particular sound. But what do we mean by that affirmation? We either mean that this vibration is followed by this sound, and that all similar vibrations have been followed by similar sounds: Or, that this vibration is followed by this sound, and that upon the appearance of one the mind anticipates the senses, and forms immediately an idea of the other. We may consider the relation of cause and effect in either of these two lights; but beyond these, we have no idea of it.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Dar cand vorbim despre relatii cauzale, in mod obisnuit, nu ne propunem sa descriem nimic din ceea ce se petrece in mintile oamenilor.
  • For as this idea arises from a number of similar instances, and not from any single instance, it must arise from that circumstance, in which the number of instances differ from every individual instance.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      N-am inteles ce vrea sa spuna aici.
  • the idea of power is relative as much as that of cause
  • Force, Power, Energy
  • These words, as commonly used, have very loose meanings annexed to them
  • No animal can put external bodies in motion without the sentiment of a nisus or endeavour; and every animal has a sentiment or feeling from the stroke or blow of an external object, that is in motion. These sensations, which are merely animal, and from which we can priori draw no inference, we are apt to transfer to inanimate objects, and to suppose, that they have some such feelings, whenever they transfer or receive motion.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      E interesanta analogia de aici.
Gheorghe Stefanov

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  • ideas of the former, being sensible
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      In ce sens au ideile matematice un caracter sensibil?
  • the smallest distinction between them is immediately perceptible
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      v. infinit numarabil si infinit nenumarabil, de pilda; distinctia nu este imediat perceptibila, trebuie sa intelegi o demonstratie matematica pentru a o putea "percepe";
  • nor is it in our power to recal the original object, as often as we have occasion to contemplate it
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      !?
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  • the inferences are always much shorter in these disquisitions
  • As moral philosophy seems hitherto to have received less improvement than either geometry or physics, we may conclude, that, if there be any difference in this respect among these sciences, the difficulties, which obstruct the progress of the former, require superior care and capacity to be surmounted
  • power, force, energy or necessary connexion
  • Complex ideas may, perhaps, be well known by definition, which is nothing but an enumeration of those parts or simple ideas, that compose them
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ideea compozitionalitatii; stim ca poate fi pusa si aceasta in discutie
  • Produce the impressions or original sentiments, from which the ideas are copied.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Care e legatura dintre o teorie empirista a ideilor si o teorie referentiala a intelesului?
  • there is not, in any single, particular instance of cause and effect, any thing which can suggest the idea of power or necessary connexion
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      de ce sunt puse pe acelasi plan "conexiune necesara" si "putere"?
  • It is impossible, therefore, that the idea of power can be derived from the contemplation of bodies, in single instances of their operation; because no bodies ever discover any power, which can be the original of this idea.
  • we are every moment conscious of internal power; while we feel, that, by the simple command of our will, we can move the organs of our body, or direct the faculties of our mind
  • This idea, then, is an idea of reflection, since it arises from reflecting on the operations of our own mind, and on the command which is exercised by will, both over the organs of the body and faculties of the soul
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      asta s-ar potrivi mai bine daca ar fi vorba de "conexiune necesara"; intr-adevar, conexiunea necesara apare odata cu legile cu caracter normativ, cu regulile (logice, semantice, morale s.a.m.d.) si poate fi observat in relatiile dintre concepte si propozitii.
  • The motion of our body follows upon the command of our will. Of this we are every moment conscious. But the means, by which this is effected; the energy, by which the will performs so extraordinary an operation; of this we are so far from being immediately conscious, that it must for ever escape our most diligent enquiry.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      vointa vs. energia necesara pentru a pune in miscare corpul
  • Were we empowered, by a secret wish, to remove mountains, or control the planets in their orbit; this extensive authority would not be more extraordinary, nor more beyond our comprehension.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      fenomenele telekinetice nu sunt mai misterioase decat miscarea propriilor maini
  • Why has the will an influence over the tongue and fingers, not over the heart or liver?
  • We learn the influence of our will from experience alone. And experience only teaches us, how one event constantly follows another; without instructing us in the secret connexion, which binds them together, and renders them inseparable
  • the mind wills a certain event: Immediately another event, unknown to ourselves, and totally different from the one intended, is produced: This event produces another, equally unknown: Till at last, through a long succession, the desired event is produced
  • our idea of power is not copied from any sentiment or consciousness of power within ourselves, when we give rise to animal motion, or apply our limbs to their proper use and office
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ideea de "putere" nu e copiata dupa vreo putere pe care observam prin introspectie ca o avem (vointa de a-mi misca mana nu e puterea care imi misca mana)
  • I believe the same arguments will prove, that even this command of the will gives us no real idea of force or energy.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      vointa nu devine o putere nici atunci cand actioneaza in sfera proceselor mentale
  • do we pretend to be acquainted with the nature of the human soul and the nature of an idea, or the aptitude of the one to produce the other?
  • a production of something out of nothing
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      producerea unei idei se realizeaza ca o creatie ex nihilo?
  • Our authority over our sentiments and passions is much weaker than that over our ideas; and even the latter authority is circumscribed within very narrow boundaries
  • We are more master of our thoughts in the morning than in the evening: Fasting, than after a full meal. Can we give any reason for these variations, except experience?
  • But philosophers, who carry their scrutiny a little farther, immediately perceive that, even in the most familiar events, the energy of the cause is as unintelligible as in the most unusual, and that we only learn by experience the frequent Conjunction of objects, without being ever able to comprehend anything like Connexion between them.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Ok, ok.
  • They assert that the Deity is the immediate cause of the union between soul and body; and that they are not the organs of sense, which, being agitated by external objects, produce sensations in the mind; but that it is a particular volition of our omnipotent Maker, which excites such a sensation, in consequence of such a motion in the organ. In like manner, it is not any energy in the will that produces local motion in our members: It is God himself, who is pleased to second our will, in itself impotent, and to command that motion which we erroneously attribute to our own power and efficacy.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Malebranche
  • Nor do philosophers stop at this conclusion. They sometimes extend the same inference to the mind itself, in its internal operations. Our mental vision or conception of ideas is nothing but a revelation made to us by our Maker. When we voluntarily turn our thoughts to any object, and raise up its image in the fancy, it is not the will which creates that idea: It is the universal Creator, who discovers it to the mind, and renders it present to us.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Partea asta mi se pare foarte weird.
  • by this theory, they diminish, instead of magnifying, the grandeur of those attributes, which they affect so much to celebrate. It argues surely more power in the Deity to delegate a certain degree of power to inferior creatures than to produce every thing by his own immediate volition. It argues more wisdom to contrive at first the fabric of the world with such perfect foresight that, of itself, and by its proper operation, it may serve all the purposes of providence, than if the great Creator were obliged every moment to adjust its parts, and animate by his breath all the wheels of that stupendous machine.
  • First
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      N-am inteles prea bine care e argumentul din paragraful asta.
  • are we not equally ignorant of the manner or force by which a mind, even the supreme mind, operates either on itself or on body? Whence, I beseech you, do we acquire any idea of it? We have no sentiment or consciousness of this power in ourselves. We have no idea of the Supreme Being but what we learn from reflection on our own faculties. Were our ignorance, therefore, a good reason for rejecting any thing, we should be led into that principle of denying all energy in the Supreme Being as much as in the grossest matter. We surely comprehend as little the operations of one as of the other. Is it more difficult to conceive that motion may arise from impulse than that it may arise from volition? All we know is our profound ignorance in both cases.
Gheorghe Stefanov

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  • Though there be no such thing as Chance in the world;
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Why not? :)
  • finding a greater number of sides concur in the one event than in the other, the mind is carried more frequently to that event
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Deocamdata avem o descriere, nu o explicatie.
  • The concurrence of these several views or glimpses imprints the idea more strongly on the imagination; gives it superior force and vigour; renders its influence on the passions and affections more sensible; and in a word, begets that reliance or security, which constitutes the nature of belief and opinion
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Probabil asta ar trebui sa fie explicatia. De gasit contraexemple. :)
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  • probability of causes, as with that of chance
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Mai limpede, in ce consta distinctia asta? Cum poate fi ea sustinuta, dat fiind ce a spus Hume pana acum?
  • demonstrations, proofs, and probabilities
  • proofs meaning such arguments from experience as leave no room for doubt or opposition
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Proof - daca e vorba de un apel la evidente constrangatoare, atunci nu mai e vorba de un argument. Cand iti arat ca lucrurile stau asa cum spun nu iti dau un argument, ci produc o evidenta (putem numai asta si "dovada", daca nu facem confuzii).
  • when any cause fails of producing its usual effect, philosophers ascribe not this to any irregularity in nature; but suppose, that some secret causes, in the particular structure of parts, have prevented the operation
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Iar presupozitia aceasta cum a aparut? Altfel spus, cum poti explica aparitia principiului ratiunii suficiente ca empirist?
  • But where different effects have been found to follow from causes
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      deci la asta se reduce diferenta? atunci de ce sa nu vorbim in toate cazurile de probabilitate, mai mare sau mai mica?
  • As a great number of views do here concur in one event, they fortify and confirm it to the imagination, beget that sentiment which we call belief, and give its object the preference above the contrary event
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Again, sunt cel putin 2 moduri in care poate fi pusa in discutie povestea asta. 1: Nu e o explicatie satisfacatoare. 2: Nu e o explicatie corecta.
  • For my part, I shall think it sufficient, if the present hints excite the curiosity of philosophers, and make them sensible how defective all common theories are in treating of such curious and such sublime subjects.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Ok, poate Hume nu-si propune sa ofere o explicatie completa, ci doar sa starneasca o discutie.
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  • it cannot exceed that original stock of ideas furnished by the internal and external senses, it has unlimited power of mixing, compounding, separating, and dividing these ideas, in all the varieties of fiction and vision
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      si totusi, a fost nevoie de un timp foarte indelungat pentru ca oamenii sa-si imagineze anumite lucruri :)
  • but it is not in our power to believe that such an animal has ever really existed
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      o, ba da! doar ca trebuie sa acceptam, o data cu ideea respectiva, o multime de alte idei
  • some sentiment or feeling
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      dar nu e nimic afectiv in a crede ceva, in a accepta anumite idei, asa cum nu e nimic afectiv in a-i saluta pe oamenii pe care-i cunosti
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  • it is evident that belief consists not in the peculiar nature or order of ideas, but in the manner of their conception, and in their feeling to the mind
  • belief is something felt by the mind
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      s-ar putea spune ca exprimarea asta e metaforica
  • Resemblance, Contiguity and Causation
  • Sensible objects have always a greater influence on the fancy than any other
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      cineva ar putea spune ca asta are legatura cu un model masculin - tipii vor sa vada poze s.a.m.d.
  • It is certain that distance diminishes the force of every idea, and that, upon our approach to any object; though it does not discover itself to our senses; it operates upon the mind with an influence, which imitates an immediate impression.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      discutabil; v. de pilda ce se intampla cand ma gandesc la un om si apoi nu ma gandesc la omul de langa el, ci la fratele lui, care e in Australia
  • When I am a few miles from home, whatever relates to it touches me more nearly than when I am two hundred leagues distant
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Nu toti marii exegeti ai lui Wittgenstein traiesc in Cambridge.
  • We may observe, that, in these phaenomena, the belief of the correlative object is always presupposed; without which the relation could have no effect
  • When I throw a piece of dry wood into a fire, my mind is immediately carried to conceive, that it augments, not extinguishes the flame. This transition of thought from the cause to the effect proceeds not from reason. It derives its origin altogether from custom and experience. And as it first begins from an object, present to the senses, it renders the idea or conception of flame more strong and lively than any loose, floating reverie of the imagination. That idea arises immediately. The thought moves instantly towards it, and conveys to it all that force of conception, which is derived from the impression present to the senses.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Ar merita discutat in detaliu pasajul asta.
  • Here, then, is a kind of pre-established harmony between the course of nature and the succession of our ideas
  • Custom is that principle, by which this correspondence has been effected
  • Had not the presence of an object, instantly excited the idea of those objects, commonly conjoined with it, all our knowledge must have been limited to the narrow sphere of our memory and senses; and we should never have been able to adjust means to ends, or employ our natural powers, either to the producing of good, or avoiding of evil.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ok, dar e ca si cand ai spune ca sunt mai multe asocieri de idei, unele bazate pe asemanare, altele pe contiguitate si inca unele care nu sunt bazate nici pe asemanare, nici pe contiguitate - de ce le-ai numi pe acestea asocieri bazate pe relatii cauzale?
  • As nature has taught us the use of our limbs, without giving us the knowledge of the muscles and nerves, by which they are actuated; so has she implanted in us an instinct, which carries forward the thought in a correspondent course to that which she has established among external objects; though we are ignorant of those powers and forces, on which this regular course and succession of objects totally depends.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Deci faptul ca soarele o sa rasara si maine tine de o coincidenta. Natura a facut lucrurile in asa fel incat eu sa-mi formez ideea ca soarele o sa rasara si maine (fara nici o baza rationala), iar soarele chiar sa rasara si maine.
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  • Nature will always maintain her rights, and prevail in the end over any abstract reasoning whatsoever
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      asta nu revine pana la urma la a spune ca vom actiona, oricum, si fara temeiuri?
  • By opposing so many vices and follies, it raises to itself abundance of enemies
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ok, dar exista si argumente epistemologice principiale impotriva scepticismului
  • He would not, at first, by any reasoning, be able to reach the idea of cause and effect; since the particular powers, by which all natural operations are performed, never appear to the senses
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  • This principle is Custom or Habit
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      asta e un fel de explicatie naturalista; "principiu" si-a schimbat aici intelesul; nu mai e vorba despre vreo regula, o norma a ratiunii, sau ceva de felul asta, ci de o regularitate a comportamentului si felul in care se formeaza astfel de comportamente regulate
  • or pretend to give the cause of this cause
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      da; e util pentru supravietuire / adaptare / etc. sa-ti formezi obisnuinte
  • All inferences from experience, therefore, are effects of custom, not of reasoning
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      atunci nici n-ar mai trebui sa le numim inferente
  • Without the influence of custom, we should be entirely ignorant of every matter of fact beyond what is immediately present to the memory and senses
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ar merita discutata afirmatia asta
  • A man, who should find in a desert country the remains of pompous buildings, would conclude that the country had, in ancient times, been cultivated by civilized inhabitants; but did nothing of this nature occur to him, he could never form such an inference.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      noi putem insa sa ne imaginam situatia sa sa urmarim inferentele lui fara sa avem datele lui senzoriale
  • If I ask why you believe any particular matter of fact, which you relate, you must tell me some reason; and this reason will be some other fact, connected with it. But as you cannot proceed after this manner, in infinitum, you must at last terminate in some fact, which is present to your memory or senses; or must allow that your belief is entirely without foundation
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      foundationalism ftw! :)
  • It is an operation of the soul, when we are so situated, as unavoidable as to feel the passion of love, when we receive benefits; or hatred, when we meet with injuries
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      cu alte cuvinte, concluziile rationamentelor inductive ni se impun instinctual; sau altfel spus: concluziile sunt efectele premiselor; si totusi putem face rationamente inductive gresite si putem distinge intre rationamente corecte si rationamente gresite (dar nu putem vorbi despre un mod corect si un mod gresit de a "simti iubire")
  • make us examine more accurately the nature of this belief, and of the customary conjunction, whence it is derived
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      e vorba despre opinia formulata mai sus, sau despre natura opiniei in genere si felul in care ne formam opinii prin alaturari de idei?
  • But notwithstanding that this distinction be thus universally received, both in the active speculative scenes of life, I shall not scruple to pronounce, that it is, at bottom, erroneous, at least, superficial.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      si uite asa respinge Hume prima dogma a empirismului :)
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  • Relations of Ideas, and Matters of Fact
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      dar oamenii isi pot folosi ratiunea si fara sa reflecteze asupra unui obiect (cand joaca sah, de pilda); iar obiectele asupra carora reflecteaza poate nu sunt doar "obiecte abstracte" sau "obiecte fizice"; iar in cazul "relatiilor intre idei", in categoria asta par sa intre prea multe lucruri diferite, care nu seamana prea mult intre ele (dezvoltarea unui sistem formal si teoria actelor de vorbire, de pilda)
  • Though there never were a circle or triangle in nature, the truths demonstrated by Euclid would for ever retain their certainty and evidence.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      dar n-ar trebui ca Hume sa spuna, de pilda, ca daca n-ar exista cercuri in natura (si nimic asemanator cu cercul), noi nu ne-am putea forma ideea de cerc?
  • Were it demonstratively false, it would imply a contradiction, and could never be distinctly conceived by the mind.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      e fals (in geometria euclidiana) ca suma unghiurilor unui triunghi poate fi mai mare decat 180 de grade, si se poate demonstra ca e fals, dar nu prin reducere la absurd, ci aratand ca suma trebuie sa fie intotdeauna egala cu 180 de grade; iar afirmatia ca suma ar fi mai mare nu implica nici o contradictie (daca renuntam la postulatul paralelelor); poate nu toate afirmatiile despre care putem arata ca sunt false pe cai deductive implica niste contradictii.
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  • All reasonings concerning matter of fact seem to be founded on the relation of Cause and Effect
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      E discutabil ca lucrurile stau asa.
  • the knowledge of this relation is not, in any instance, attained by reasonings a priori; but arises entirely from experience, when we find that any particular objects are constantly conjoined with each other
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      compara cu Kant
  • No object ever discovers, by the qualities which appear to the senses, either the causes which produced it, or the effects which will arise from it; nor can our reason, unassisted by experience, ever draw any inference concerning real existence and matter of fact.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      da, dar e vorba de doua lucruri diferite; una e sa poti sa inferezi cauzele posibile ale unui obiect stiind care sunt calitatile lui (in lipsa unei teorii anterioare), alta e sa-ti formezi ideea de cauzalitate
  • The mind can never possibly find the effect in the supposed cause, by the most accurate scrutiny and examination.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Poate chiar si afirmatia asta ar putea fi pusa la indoiala.
  • In a word, then, every effect is a distinct event from its cause. It could not, therefore, be discovered in the cause
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      si totusi, ratiunea pare sa ne spuna ca efectul trebuie sa fie de acelasi tip (ontologic or something) ca si cauza si sa semene (intr-un anume fel) cu cauza care l-a produs
  • Nor is geometry, when taken into the assistance of natural philosophy, ever able to remedy this defect, or lead us into the knowledge of ultimate causes, by all that accuracy of reasoning for which it is so justly celebrated.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Si totusi oamenii au facut stiinta si asa: imaginand modele geometrice sau matematice simple si cautand in natura fenomenele care le satisfac.
  • What is the foundation of all conclusions from experience?
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Ce urmeaza aici poate fi vazut si sub eticheta "problema inductiei" (cand rationam prin inductie nu avem in vedere doar relatii cauzale)
  • nature has kept us at a great distance from all her secrets, and has afforded us only the knowledge of a few superficial qualities of objects; while she conceals from us those powers and principles on which the influence of those objects entirely depends
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      v. si ideea ca toate calitatile secundare ale obiectelor experientei depind (cauzal) de calitatile lor primare
  • For this reason it may be requisite to venture upon a more difficult task; and enumerating all the branches of human knowledge, endeavour to show that none of them can afford such an argument.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      Hume: nimeni nu ne-a aratat cum trecem de la regularitati observate in trecut la presupunerea ca regularitatile vor fi observate la fel si in continuare; dar se poate sustine ca e in principiu imposibil sa fie aratat acest lucru.
  • That there are no demonstrative arguments in the case seems evident
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      inductia nu poate fi justificata prin rationamente deductive
  • To endeavour, therefore, the proof of this last supposition by probable arguments, or arguments regarding existence, must be evidently going in a circle, and taking that for granted, which is the very point in question.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      justificarea inductiva a inductiei este circulara
  • Should it be said that, from a number of uniform experiments, we infer a connexion between the sensible qualities and the secret powers; this, I must confess, seems the same difficulty, couched in different terms.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      apelul la calitati primare nu rezolva problema
  • My practice, you say, refutes my doubts. But you mistake the purport of my question. As an agent, I am quite satisfied in the point; but as a philosopher, who has some share of curiosity, I will not say scepticism, I want to learn the foundation of this inference.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      faptul ca folosim in practica rationamente inductive (varianta: cauzale) tot timpul nu ne ajuta; acum ne interesa o justificare
  • It is certain that the most ignorant and stupid peasants—nay infants, nay even brute beasts—improve by experience, and learn the qualities of natural objects, by observing the effects which result from them.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      dar asta nu inseamna ca trecerea de la efect la cauza (sau invers) si presupunerea ca natura e uniforma nu tin de nici un rationament?
  • it is not reasoning which engages us to suppose the past resembling the future, and to expect similar effects from causes which are, to appearance, similar. This is the proposition which I intended to enforce in the present section.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      s-ar putea spune: aceasta e o presupozitie pe care o asumam atunci cand cunoastem si pe care nu suntem dispusi sa o punem niciodata in discutie; in lipsa ei nu am putea cunoaste nimic.
Gheorghe Stefanov

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  • recalls to his memory this sensation
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      totusi, iti poti aminti o senzatie? I mean, iti amintesti evenimentul care a produs senzatia, dar senzatia? sa zicem ca imi amintesc ca m-au durut dintii; dar nu simt o durere de dinti mai slaba; nu simt nimic; cum pot compara amintirea cu senzatia?
  • The most lively thought is still inferior to the dullest sensation
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      parca vorbeam despre amintiri; una e sa imi amintesc o durere de dinti si alta e sa am un gand despre o durere de dinti, nu?
  • but never can mistake that conception for the real disorders and agitations of the passion
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      sigur ca putem discuta despre iubire fara sa ne simtim indragostiti; dar nu m-as putea indragosti uneori de o persoana tocmai fiindca am discutat impreuna despre iubire?
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  • our thought is a faithful mirror, and copies its objects truly
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      nope, nu pot intelege asta; cum pot gandurile mele sa oglindeasca sentimentele mele trecute?
  • perceptions of the mind
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      dar gandurile nu pot fi percepute, in sens propriu; si de fapt, nici macar senzatiile nu pot fi percepute; senzatiile pot doar sa le am; nu pot vedea niciodata "o senzatie vizuala"
  • To form monsters, and join incongruous shapes and appearances, costs the imagination no more trouble than to conceive the most natural and familiar objects
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      astazi s-ar spune, poate, ca procesele cognitive asociate imaginarii unor obiecte nemaiintalnite sunt mai complexe decat cele asociate imaginarii unor obiecte familiare;
  • nor is any thing beyond the power of thought, except what implies an absolute contradiction
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      o sfera in intregime rosie si in intregime verde nu poate fi conceputa, dar nu din cauza ca incalca vreun principiu logic
  • compounding, transposing, augmenting, or diminishing
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ce e "transpunerea"? si: sigur astea sunt toate operatiile posibile?
  • A virtuous horse we can conceive
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      eu nu pot; imi pot inchipui un om virtuos care s-a transformat in cal si a ramas in continuare virtuos, dar asta e altceva;
  • by producing that idea, which, in their opinion, is not derived from this source
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ar merita incercat :)
  • A blind man can form no notion of colours; a deaf man of sounds
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      nu; conceptele nu sunt qualia
  • Restore either of them that sense in which he is deficient; by opening this new inlet for his sensations, you also open an inlet for the ideas
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      n-are legatura directa, dar tocmai mi-am amintit de problema lui Molyneux: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/molyneux-problem/
  • though, at the same time, resembling
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      a, ok, seamana culorile intre ele si sunetele intre ele; initial ma gandisem la orbul lui Peirce cu stacojiul si sunetul trompetei
  • and this may serve as a proof that the simple ideas are not always, in every instance, derived from the correspondent impressions; though this instance is so singular, that it is scarcely worth our observing, and does not merit that for it alone we should alter our general maxim
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ar fi mai multe de discutat aici
  • either outward or inward
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      care sunt "senzatiile launtrice"?
  • When we entertain, therefore, any suspicion that a philosophical term is employed without any meaning or idea (as is but too frequent), we need but enquire, from what impression is that supposed idea derived? And if it be impossible to assign any, this will serve to confirm our suspicion.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ok, dar asta e o cale de a scapa de absolut orice contraexemplu (v mai sus) la teza ca toate ideile provin din senzatii
  • the terms, which they employed, were not chosen with such caution, nor so exactly defined, as to prevent all mistakes about their doctrine
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      "e bine sa iti alegi cu grija cuvintele si sa te exprimi cat mai clar cu putinta" - se pare ca asta nu e gaselnita analiticilor :)
  • the word idea, seems to be commonly taken in a very loose sense, by Locke and others; as standing for any of our perceptions, our sensations and passions, as well as thoughts
  • there was still a connexion upheld among the different ideas, which succeeded each other
  • a succession of thought
  • only three principles of connexion among ideas, namely, Resemblance, Contiguity in time or place, and Cause or Effect
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ce ciudat! dar pot sa trec de la o idee la alta pe baza unor asocieri simbolice (vultur - stramosi) sau pe baza unor proprietati semantice (sinonimie, antonimie etc.) si poate mai sunt si alte modalitati
  • The more instances we examine, and the more care we employ, the more assurance shall we acquire, that the enumeration, which we form from the whole, is complete and entire
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      adica nu putem da ideii ca nu exista alte principii decat cele 3 decat o intemeiere inductiva
  • Where two objects are contrary, the one destroys the other
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      si daca trec de la ideea de "numar par" la ideea de "numar impar"?
Gheorghe Stefanov

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  • The one
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      era "the first one", nu?
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      am verificat, nu era :)
  • Of the Different Species of Philosophy
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      e vorba de o metafora, right? (in mod obisnuit doar fiintele vii se impart in specii)
  • They make us feel
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      aici pare sa fie vorba de moralisti (in opozitie cu oamenii care se ocupa de "filosofia eticii")
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  • the most durable, as well as justest fame, has been acquired by the easy philosophy
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      weird! lucrurile nu par sa stea asa in zilele noastre; Kant e mult mai cunoscut decat Diderot, de pilda
  • criticism
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      in traducerea romaneasca scrie ca de fapt prin "criticism" Hume intelege "estetica"
  • It is easy for a profound philosopher to commit a mistake in his subtile reasonings
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      de ce?
  • being supposed to contribute nothing either to the advantage or pleasure of society; while he lives remote from communication with mankind, and is wrapped up in principles and notions equally remote from their comprehension
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      offfff! iar imaginea asta!
  • Be a philosopher; but, amidst all your philosophy, be still a man
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      oh well!...
  • The anatomist presents to the eye the most hideous and disagreeable objects; but his science is useful to the painter in delineating even a Venus or an Helen. While the latter employs all the richest colours of his art, and gives his figures the most graceful and engaging airs; he must still carry his attention to the inward structure of the human body, the position of the muscles, the fabric of the bones, and the use and figure of every part or organ. Accuracy is, in every case, advantageous to beauty, and just reasoning to delicate sentiment. In vain would we exalt the one by depreciating the other
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      nu cred ca e buna analogia asta; are nevoie un scriitor de stiintele cognitiei? nu-i ajung chestiile de "folk psychology"? exista in arta exigente ale preciziei si acuratetei?
  • why philosophers should desist from such researches, and leave superstition still in possession of her retreat?
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      what if any such research only leads to mistakes and superstitions?
  • however unsuccessful former attempts may have proved, there is still room to hope
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ooo, dar exista demonstratii de imposibilitate
  • must be apprehended in an instant, by a superior penetration, derived from nature, and improved by habit and reflexion
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      deci ce e penetrarea asta superioara?
  • There are many obvious distinctions of this kind, such as those between the will and understanding, the imagination and passions, which fall within the comprehension of every human creature; and the finer and more philosophical distinctions are no less real and certain, though more difficult to be comprehended.
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      pana la urma pe asta pare sa se sprijine opinia lui Hume ca o cercetare a intelectului omenesc este posibila
  • reasoning in this easy manner, we can undermine the foundations of an abstruse philosophy, which seems to have hitherto served only as a shelter to superstition, and a cover to absurdity and error
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      ok, got it! :)
  • reasonings concerning human nature seem abstract, and of difficult comprehension? This affords no presumption of their falsehood
  • It is probable, that one operation and principle of the mind depends on another; which, again, may be resolved into one more general and universal
    • Gheorghe Stefanov
       
      pe ce se bazeaza asta?
  • springs
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