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Power and Primacy of the Pope (1537): Smalcald Theologians - 5 views

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shared by Vivien Lee on 18 Jan 11 - No Cached
  • he teaches that the authority of the ministry depends upon the Word of God, and that Peter was not superior to the other apostles,
  • For it is manifest that the kingdom of Christ is scattered throughout the whole world; and to-day there are many churches in the East which do not seek ordination or confirmation from the Roman bishop [which have ministers ordained neither by the Pope nor his bishops].
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 18 Jan 11
       
      It is impractical to keep the pope as the sole power house of the church since the church is expanding so rapidly.
  • Wherever there has been a bishop, whether at Rome, or Eugubium, or Constantinople, or Rhegium, or Alexandria, he is of the same dignity and priesthood.
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 18 Jan 11
       
      Regardless of their origins, all the bishops should be equally respected. ie no hierarchy 
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  • universal bishop.
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 18 Jan 11
       
      what does universal means here? 
  • when for a long time there had been contests concerning the primacy between the bishops of Rome and Constantinople,
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 18 Jan 11
       
      The hierarchy brings power struggle and can conflicts and eventually corrupts the system or the operation of the church.
  • Therefore it is necessary that in these passages Peter is the representative of the entire assembly of the apostle
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 18 Jan 11
       
      Although Peter is the representative of the apostles, that doesn't mean that he is the leader or consider superior in the hierarchy. He is simply just a member, that also happens to be a representative.
  • he ministry of the New Testament is not bound to places and persons as the Levitical ministry, but it is dispersed throughout the whole world, and is there where God gives His gifts, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers; neither does this ministry avail on account of the authority of any person,
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 19 Jan 11
       
      the new testament is known all around the world. The testament includes God's words, and it is His gift to people.
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 19 Jan 11
       
      The new testament is known all over the world. It includes God's words and is His gift to his people. 
  • Pope is by divine right the ruler of the kingdoms of the world, are [utterly] false and godless
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 19 Jan 11
       
      The pope was not the highest in power and divine ruler. But the idea that he was had lead to disorder in the church.
  • When the empire is vacant, the Pope is the legitimate successor.
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 19 Jan 11
       
      pope had the right to the empire and state when no one is in control of it. This shows the authority that was given to the pope during that time.
  • that this dominion belongs to him by divine right
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 19 Jan 11
       
      He believed that he was superior compared to them and therefore had the right to control them. 
  • The Levitical high priest was the chief priest by divine right, and yet godless high priests were not to be obeyed
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 19 Jan 11
       
      Despite being a high priest by divine right, they were not obeyed by others. 
  • or they teach that sins are remitted because of the worth of our work
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 19 Jan 11
       
      the selling of indulgence take place here because people want to remit their previous sins. One of the main corruption in the church.
  • hen the true judgment of the Church is removed, godless dogmas and godless services cannot be removed, and for many ages they destroy innumerable souls.
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 19 Jan 11
       
      Even when the reasoning of the church is removed the ideas still persist. Due to this reason, many souls has been destroyed.
  • manifest reasons for not obeying the Pope
    • Vivien Lee
      Vivien Lee on 19 Jan 11
       
      Because of his wrongdoings, people started to flee away from the church. They no longer obeyed the pope.
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