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We Are Not Created Equal in Every Way - 0 views

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  • The values placed on an unnaturally thin body for female performers drives some dancers to potentially fatal eating disorders. But that isn't exactly the issue here
  • But I wonder how she feels about her body being a topic of public discussion.
  • "We are not a recreation department," said a ballet spokeswoman.
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  • the more disturbing issue in this story isn't about weight but age.
  • Fredrika, however, has said she is quite happy dancing where she is. Still, the mother gets to decide what's best for her daughter's dancing career.
    • shannonlawless
      shannonlawless on 26 Mar 07
       
      This proves that the mom is the one who cares.  The daughter is probably just embarrassed about the whole thing.
    • flyboyzx
      flyboyzx on 28 Mar 07
       
      It sounds like the mother is trying to live her life through her daughter.
  • This doesn't mean that women with different body types cannot become professional dancers. They just have to find a different type of dance -- jazz, tap, modern -- just as athletes have to find sports that fit certain body types.
    • cate1123
      cate1123 on 29 Mar 07
       
      this paragraph is about how some bodies are just made for ballet because their bodies would look better doing the dancing, just like certain body types are made for certain sports.
  • But the reality is that all men and women are not created equal
  • for the same reason UC Berkeley can reject students based on mental prowess and a fashion modeling school can reject students based on comeliness.
    • shannonlawless
      shannonlawless on 26 Mar 07
       
      This is a good example
    • patrickhittson
      patrickhittson on 28 Mar 07
       
      good back up . Uc Berkeley and any other college scans their acceptence applications so why shouldn't the ballet school.
    • cate1123
      cate1123 on 29 Mar 07
       
      another good analogy, but you really cant find an exact match for comparing ballet to anything else.
  • Just as in elite gymnastics and figure skating, these children are in the netherland of the law.
  • children at age 8 are already training for adult careers. By age 12 or 13, the children are training so much that they either begin homeschooling or attend a school that accommodates the training schedule.
    • shannonlawless
      shannonlawless on 26 Mar 07
       
      These children are not getting to live a normal childhood.  This is what the author thinks is the main problem.
    • haleysmith
      haleysmith on 27 Mar 07
       
      Can't this cause physical problems for the child in the future? If so, what are the adults thinking?
  • The child is clearly too young to make such a decision. Yet, in the skewed logic of elite athletics and dancing, she is not too young to pay the price for it.
    • mgee418
      mgee418 on 26 Mar 07
       
      I think that this statement says that yes the parent should help when the child wants it, but the child might not want it as bad as the parent.
  • B ut I wonder how she feels about her body being a topic of public discussion >.
  • 8-year-old girl
  • did not have the right body type to be accepted"
    • haleysmith
      haleysmith on 27 Mar 07
       
      This is sending a negative message to young women at an early age, which could cause body type image issues.
  • There is no safety net for them, no arm of government that makes sure that the adults in their lives watch out for their best interests.
    • haleysmith
      haleysmith on 27 Mar 07
       
      Are the children participating/training in a sport because it's what they want or are the doing it to make their parents happy?  Are they fulfilling their dreams or their parents?
  • a psychologist
  • there is > not one on staff.
    • haleysmith
      haleysmith on 27 Mar 07
       
      Who then is helping the children with the stress?
  • leaner body types in selecting 300 students from this year's 1,400 applicants?
    • patrickhittson
      patrickhittson on 28 Mar 07
       
      The lean body type is what a dancer is depicted as. Look at any picture of dancers most are lean
  • ethereal, elongated body that can float on air is part of the look and feel of classical ballet
    • patrickhittson
      patrickhittson on 28 Mar 07
       
      What a dancer is suppose to look like
  • ballet school usually has a psychologist to counsel the students
    • patrickhittson
      patrickhittson on 28 Mar 07
       
      why would the students need a shrink?
  • The San Francisco Ballet School offers the best training in the Bay Area,
    • patrickhittson
      patrickhittson on 28 Mar 07
       
      The best only takes the best.
  • REDRIKA KEEFER
    • cate1123
      cate1123 on 29 Mar 07
       
      This paragraph is about an 8 year old girl who dances, and it mentions her body type as an issue.
  • Fredrika and her mother filed suit because
    • cate1123
      cate1123 on 29 Mar 07
       
      This paragraph is about the mother filing a law suit against the San Francisco Ballet school becuase she did not have the right body type.
  • The values placed on an unnaturally thin body for female performers drives some > dancers to potentially fatal eating disorders. But that isn't exactly the issue > here >.
    • cate1123
      cate1123 on 29 Mar 07
       
      this paragraph is about how the thin body type of a dancer can lead to eating disorders, and if the San Fransico Ballet School has the right to give any kind of preference to thinner body types.
  • Yes,
    • cate1123
      cate1123 on 29 Mar 07
       
      this paragraph talks about how the Ballet School does have the right to give preference just as UC Berkeley and modeling schools can give preference.
  • Having written extensively
    • cate1123
      cate1123 on 29 Mar 07
       
      The next two paragraphs the author gives her credibility and tells how the Ballet School is just a training ground to put them into the professional world of dance.
  • children at age 8 are already training for adult careers. >
    • cate1123
      cate1123 on 29 Mar 07
       
      The next three paragraphs talk about  how how the children are being taught as early as 8 for their professional carreer, and it enies them a real childhood; it can take them out of real school and even cause psycological problems.
  • Keefer said she would drop her lawsuit if the school accepted her daughter.
    • cate1123
      cate1123 on 29 Mar 07
       
      This paragraph talks about how the mother would be happy if her child got into the school, telling me that it may be more of the mother's problem than the childs problem.
  • A tall, blocky man, for example, could not be a jockey but he could play baseball.
    • cate1123
      cate1123 on 29 Mar 07
       
      a pretty good analogy for comparison of ballet and sports
  • The child is clearly too young to make such a decision. Yet, in the skewed logic of elite athletics and dancing, she is not too young to pay the price for it.
  • , just like her mother and grandmother before her. She relishes playing the lead role of Clara in the Pacific Dance Theater's "Petite Nutcracker."
    • swimangel1313
      swimangel1313 on 30 Mar 07
       
      I love the Nutcracker
  • FREDRIKA KEEFER is an 8-year-old girl who likes to dance
  • her mother filed suit because, as her mother puts it, she "did not have the right body type to be accepted" by the San Francisco Ballet School.
    • swimangel1313
      swimangel1313 on 30 Mar 07
       
      She is only eight-years-old! What girl has the same body now as they did when they were 8?!! No one
  • But for me, the more disturbing issue in this story isn't about weight but age.
    • swimangel1313
      swimangel1313 on 30 Mar 07
       
      I think it is both. It shows why girls that take part in ballet develop an eating disorder.
  • children at age 8 are already training for adult careers.
  • a psychologist to counsel the students, but at the moment there is not one on staff.
  • Keefer said she would drop her lawsuit if the school accepted her daughter. The San Francisco Ballet School offers the best training in the Bay Area
  • Does the San Francisco Ballet School have the right to give preference to leaner body types in selecting 300 students from this year's 1,400 applicants?
  • F REDRIKA KEEFER
shanewebb

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  • Petite Nutcracker
  • My daughter is very sophisticated
  • The values placed on an unnaturally thin body for female performers drives some dancers to potentially fatal eating disorders.
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  • American ideals
  • Having written extensively about the damaging pressures on young female gymnasts and figure skaters, I understand Keefer's concerns about body type.
  • The San Francisco Ballet School is very clear and open about the fact it is strictly a training ground for professional dancers
  • children at age 8 are already training for adult careers
  • The ballet school usually has a psychologist to counsel the students, but at the moment there is not one on staff.
  • pitfalls their daughters might encounter as they climb the ballet ladder: weight issues, physical ailments, social isolation, psychological pressure.
  • Keefer said she would drop her lawsuit if the school accepted her daughter.
  • best training in the Bay Area
  • The child is clearly too young to make such a decision. Yet, in the skewed logic of elite athletics and dancing, she is not too young to pay the price for it.
  • shanewebb on 03 Apr 07
     
    Direct emphasis on size placed in the name of the production.
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  • shanewebb on 03 Apr 07
     
    How sophisticated could an 8 year old actually be concerning societal pressures to conform?
  • shanewebb on 03 Apr 07
     
    Modeling agencies were of similar thinking, but are now establishing minimum weight standards.
  • shanewebb on 03 Apr 07
     
    The term American ideals refers to the notion that anyone should be given the opportunity to become what they wish to be.
  • shanewebb on 03 Apr 07
     
    What qualifies her to write about this subject matter? Is it personal opinion pieces or published books?
  • shanewebb on 03 Apr 07
     
    The term "school" should indicate a desire for instruction and training.
  • shanewebb on 03 Apr 07
     
    It is unfortunate they lose out on the worry free life of a child.  They are thrown into this pressured environment to early.
  • shanewebb on 03 Apr 07
     
    A need for a psychologist exists, yet the school is not immediately concerned with the vacancy.
  • shanewebb on 03 Apr 07
     
    Once she got accepted, what kind of implications would follow? Would she be treated wrongly in retaliation for her mother's actions toward the school?
  • shanewebb on 03 Apr 07
     
    If so much interest exists, why not seek training elsewhere? Families who seek the greatest opportunities for their children in acting give up everything and move to Hollywood.
  • shanewebb on 03 Apr 07
     
    The mother is in ultimate control over her daughter's future yet it will be young Fredrika who will endure the likely failures and mental strain over time.
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