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i want the chance to chat with an atheist : atheism - 0 views

  • For me it was liberating because finally the Universe made complete sense. There was only matter and energy that followed constant laws...anything 'supernatural' was simply dreamed up by humans. When bad things happened, it was not punishment, just chance. It meant that we could make this world into what we pleased, for good or ill. My choices were on me alone.
  • I'm from the Bible Belt as well. My suspicion is that you actually do know some atheists, but you just don't know it. It's very difficult for atheists to be "out" in the Bible Belt. As to your question, I would first just point out that it's less that I "decided" there was no God, and more that I just "realized" there was no God. And for me at least, it wasn't "liberating" so much as terrifying. I wasn't frightened of God's judgment or anything like that. Having grown up in a fundamentalist Christian household, I was always taught that doubt, in itself, was sinful, so by the time I got to the point of not believing, I had already crossed the line of doubting God (and thus being subject to judgment) long before that. In that sense, when I finally realized there was no God, it actually erased any fear of judgment - there's no God to judge me, thus no fear. Instead, I was terrified of the reaction that I would get from people around me when they found out that I no longer believed in God. My number one concern was my grandparents, whom I am very close with. I knew that it would devastate them, and that was really tough for me. (To this day, I have never really "come out" to them, although my parents told them - something that I honestly think I will always be resentful towards my parents for.) Beyond that, literally everyone around me, friends, family, my whole community really, were Christians, and so there was a deep, deep sense of loneliness when I realized that I had basically become "evil" in all of their minds.
  • It is liberating not to follow any religion because I feel that most of them (the major ones i.e. Judaism, Islam, and Christianity) are oppressive, intolerant and encourage ignorance in one way or another.
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  • Being open-minded means being able and willing to question one's own beliefs and consider those of others
  • You don't even have to change your mind, the very fact that you're asking questions and considering the ideas of those with whom you don't necessarily agree means you are open-minded (and is great, if you ask me).
  • It is kind of disheartening to know I have only one life to live and it is relatively short in the scheme of everything, but it makes this life I have more important. Alternately, I think the belief in an afterlife would make life feel cheap. I'm perfectly okay with knowing after I'm dead that will be the complete end of me. All I can hope for is that I "live on" in the memories of those that survive me.
  • The uncertainty of what happens after death is why humans are afraid of it.
  • reality is reality whether I find it unnerving or not. Wanting something to be true has no effect on whether or not it actually is.
  • I would just like you to know that there are places in this world where coming out as gay to one's parents is not viewed as the end of the world.
  • Many people have different "coming-out" experiences with their atheism. If their family is mostly composed of fundamentalist christians or muslims, they're going to have a much harder time than somebody who comes from a less irrational family.
  • There are atheists that are bigots
  • There are bigots in any group you can think of.
  • I think the scale of bigotry is tipped heavily in favor of those that are extremely religious.
  • Christianity has oppressed them, discriminated against them and has caused them all kinds of grief.
  • here is a quote from Steven Weinberg. Christopher Hitchens has also used the same idea in many of his debates: “Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.”
  • I can tell you with almost 100% certainty that people you know personally are atheists.
  • But it comes down to what makes you happy. As an atheist, I believe we only get one shot at this life. I think it is most important that you live a happy and moral life and as long as you do that, believe or disbelieve whatever you want.
Sunny Jackson

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Atheism | The Kojo Nnamdi Show - 0 views

  • Atheism is just the idea that you can have a philosophy of life that doesn't include a belief in God.
  • But what they want is authenticity and transparency. They want to know what kind of human being this is.
  • that religious values are the only metric of morality and moral character is really not something that is really productive in a country that claims to be a place of freedom of thought and freedom of religion.
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  • It's really a question of individual character rather than religious character, when there are plenty of people of religious upbringings that act in an unconscionably immoral way at times.
  • you can certainly have character as an Atheist and talk about that
  • Ethical culture is a humanistic, religious and educational movement inspired but the ideal that the supreme aim of human life is working to create a more humane society.
Sunny Jackson

Friendly Atheist » The Religious Exemption to the New York Same-Sex Marriage ... - 0 views

  • Churches have every right to be bigots. The government does not.
  • It would be funnier, though, if their religious views didn’t cause so many people so much pain.
  • “You can always count on Americans to do the right thing – after they’ve tried everything else.” – Winston Churchill
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  • true understanding
  • timeless truths
  • So, a bunch of folks who believe a magical sky ghost and base those beliefs on a book written 1800 years ago (as well as others who hold similarly ridiculous beliefs) don’t want to perform marriages on two people who are in love. That’s cool – as long as the state itself has process in which those two lovers can be married.
  • these organizations can still discriminate on whatever basis they want, they just can’t receive taxpayer money for it
  • The general rule is that religious groups can discriminate when they’re operating as religious groups, but if they’re operating in a secular capacity, they have to comply with secular laws
  • the sooner churches work out that marriage has little to do with religion for many people the better
  • Some day, not so far off any more, when the Shamans disapprove of something, society’s overall response will be, “So?” Not so long after that, the overall response will be “Who?”
  • How arrogant. “As revealed by god”
Sunny Jackson

Friendly Atheist » At Least We're Not Like the Baptists… - 0 views

  • And they called their conference “Sword of the Lord.” That’s really quite funny.
  • I raised my daughter to be strong and I’m glad I did.
  • She knows that some men can be pigs, but that knowledge doesn’t stop her from pushing forward
Sunny Jackson

The myth of Christian persecution in the United States - National atheism | Examiner.com - 0 views

  • Christians are very much privileged in the United States.  Christianity is an ideology in the US that enjoys implicit, unreflecting, and uncritical acceptance and one would have to be a complete idiot to counter the fact that the mythical delusion of Christianity is dominant here.
  • While it can be a gut-wrenching decision for an unbeliever to “come out”, Christians don’t worry about revealing their religion to parents, friends, etc
  • Without worry of being labeled a bigot amongst their own, they christians can discriminate in ways not otherwise allowed.  
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  • Yes, many of these privileges are seeing a decline as more and more of the godless are becoming vocal and getting involved, and so Christians interpret this as persecution, but this is only because privilege is all they have ever known. They have been on top of the food chain in this country for so long that they are largely clueless that in a free society, such privileges are inappropriate. 
  • Christians can assume that almost anywhere they go and anything they do, they’ll feel normal. 
  • There is a reason so many unbelievers refuse to be accommodating and stand idly and quietly on the sidelines. It's because so many unbelievers get routinely thrown under the bus.  
  •  There is a reason so many unbelievers cannot keep their mouths shut while the children of our Nation are getting indoctrinated every Sunday morning, rendering them totally and completely unequipped to integrate into a post-modern society. It's because they are being taught that the earth was created six-thousand years ago, that a nine-hundred-year-old man crammed an army of animals into a boat for forty days, that donkeys and snakes talk and all the other countless and totally insane fairy tales that they are taught as unmitigated truth.
  • That unbelievers should be tolerant and accommodating is an insult to the collective of human intellect and against the very backbone of basic human rights.  
Sunny Jackson

Rebutting more outlandish statements about atheists | Psychology Today - 0 views

  • correlation does not equal cause
  • These broad-based assertions about atheists are so groundless and outlandish that it's difficult to know where to start in rebutting them.
  • atheists have indeed inhabited foxholes
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  • In truth, of course, atheists, like all people, regularly experience far more severe "stress" without abandoning their worldview.
  • the most important factor in creating atheists is education, not material comfort. In fact, if material comfort correlates to atheism, that is only because it also correlates to education.
  • a non-theistic worldview is attained via a lifetime of education and thoughtful consideration of knowledge and reason
  • this is insulting to the millions of atheists and humanists who take their lifestance seriously, who have given much thought and energy to understanding the world
  • Atheists suffer like everyone else, atheists watch loved ones suffer, atheists encounter unbearable hardships, and atheists die in pain - all the while remaining atheists.
Sunny Jackson

Atheism and Agnosticism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy) - 0 views

  • I shall here assume that the God in question is that of a sophisticated monotheism.
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      This statement assumes a specific god. Why?! This article is definitely a bad source of information.
Sunny Jackson

God: Do atheists disbelieve only in god(s) or do they disbelieve in any force that give... - 0 views

  • Many things give humans hope
  • normal human beings
  • an atheist is "someone who doesn't believe in gods." Full stop.
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  • I'm just one atheist, and I believe hope exists, because I often feel it.
  • I hope it's a sunny day tomorrow, and the fact that the weatherman said that's what I should expect gives me hope it will be.
  • make sure you're using the word "belief" in a clear way. It can have several meanings.
  • Assuming something exists
  • Being in favor of something
  • There are people who believe God exists but dislike Him, but they're not atheists. Why? Because they believe He exists.
  • it sounds like you're using the second definition of "belief," which means being in favor of something. That's a value.
  • Though individual atheists have values (which often differ drastically from the values of other atheists), atheism has nothing to do with values.
  • it's not an allegiance
  • I like the idea of gods. But I don't believe they exist, so I'm an atheist.
  • I am in favor of hope. I value it.
  • I know there are things that give lots of people hope.
  • I do believe in hope.
  • I have hope that mankind will stop making war
  • I have hope that we will advance our medicine to provide health care to all of humanity
  • I have hope that human rights will be expanded and no one will be victimized or marginalized
  • I have hope that love will win over bigotry and bias.
  • I have hope that religions will not divide us.
  • I have hope that poverty and hunger can be eliminated.
  • I have hope for mankind reaching out to the stars.
  • I have hope for laws that are not based on religious ideology and yet are fair, moral and ethical.
  • My hopes are based upon everything mankind has yet achieved compared to where we once were.
  • My hope is powered by the potential for us to yet be better.
  • My hope is not based on any form of religion and yet is still hope.
  • I have hope for humanity.
  • You and I are free today because of endless unnamed heroes
  • Many of them downplay how far they've come, but I see their strength and compassion. 
  • Atheists do not hold to a single creed. The only thing they share is a disbelief in some particular kind of god.
  • they might believe in the power of groups of people, working in unison with a common spirit
  • Humanism tends to give people hope
Sunny Jackson

Leah Daughtry: Atheists Aren't Welcome in the Democratic Party? - 0 views

  • What you should be asking is why a non-religious organization is holding a special, high-profile religious event that caters to religious theists and religious theists alone.
  • the Democratic Party could have held a "values" summit which is inclusive to all.
  • There is no more need to have a "religious believers only" event than there is to have a "Christians Only," "Protestants Only" or "Whites Only" event.
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  • atheists themselves are excluded from public office
  • For years the Republican Party has sold itself by linking itself to religion
  • American values. One of those values, as expressed in the National Motto, is, "If you do not trust in God, then we do not want to think of you as being one of us."
  • here we have an unambiguous case of atheists not even being let in the door of a major Democratic Party event for discussing morals and values
  • By saying that "Democrats are...people of faith," the implication is that all Democrats are religious theists.
  • Belief is a private matter
  • People have the right to express their opinions in public, religious or otherwise. But they do not have a right to demand that others take them seriously. If they cannot support a belief, then they should expect ridicule for it.
  • Leah Daughtry is funding anti Gay, Creationist, and Anti Choice agendas within the Democratic party.
  • I don’t choose to be an atheist. I no more “choose” to disbelieve in gods than I “choose” to disbelieve in elves in my basement or elephants under my bed.
  • After the election, I will address the faults of Leah Daughtry and the Democratic Party.
  • Arthur Kaplan
  • Austin Cline
  • Victor Stenger
Sunny Jackson

Belief & Choice: Do People Choose to be Atheists? - 0 views

  • we cannot really choose to just believe anything
  • a belief is not an action and thus cannot be attained by command
  • we are indirectly responsible for the beliefs we do and do not hold because we are directly responsible for the actions we take
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  • One can be praised for acquiring beliefs through having gone to the trouble of studying, researching, and making a genuine attempt to gather as much information as possible.
  • one can be blamed for acquiring beliefs through deliberately ignoring evidence, arguments, and ideas which might tend to create doubt about long-held assumptions.
  • atheism is the only possible position I can have given my present state of knowledge
  • I can no more “choose” to just believe in the existence of a god than I can “choose” to just believe that the computer on my desk doesn’t exist.
Sunny Jackson

Religion, Atheism, Family Values: Are Religion & God Needed for Family Values? Christia... - 0 views

  • None of the positive family values necessary for raising healthy children are undermined by being godless.
  • When it comes to good family values, atheists are more likely to be concerned about things like love, kindness, mutual respect, sacrifice, and building a better future together as a community.
  • Families are built by people who love each other working together for common goals.
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  • Families are defined by the love they have for each other and the work they do together, not by the specific genders involved, whether children are present, or even the number of people present.
  • Religion and theism aren't needed for family values or for strong families because the values which make families strong exist outside of religion.
  • Religion and gods aren't necessary for love. Or respect. Or self-sacrifice. Or mutual support.
Sunny Jackson

Should I Raise My Kids As Atheists? Atheism and Children - 0 views

  • If you raise your children to be skeptical as a general rule, it won't be necessary to go out of your way to have them treat religious claims skeptically — they should end up doing that on their own anyway.
  • Skepticism and critical thinking are attitudes which must be cultivated across a broad range of topics
  • are you more interested in your children simply not being theists or religious, or are you more interested in your children not being the sort who accept claims and beliefs uncritically or who don't think for themselves?
Sunny Jackson

Atheism & Choice: Atheists Choose Atheism & to be Atheists; Atheists Should Choose God ... - 0 views

  • belief itself simply does not appear to be a matter of will or choice.
  • These beliefs and the absence thereof are not acts of will which I had to consciously take — they are, rather, conclusions which were necessary based upon the evidence at hand.
  • focus instead on how a person has arrived at their beliefs
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  • try and encourage skepticism and critical thinking in people
  • an atheist, not by choice but instead simply because belief is no longer possible
Sunny Jackson

Beliefs & Choices: Are Beliefs Like Actions? Why Arriving at a Belief is Not Like Engag... - 0 views

  • You don't "choose" to believe this, it simply because your belief due to the force of the facts in front of you.
  • The act of concluding something isn't a choice of a belief
  • your conclusion is a logical result of what you know. After that, you make no extra, identifiable steps to "choose" to believe
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  • we are indirectly responsible for the beliefs we do and do not hold because we are directly responsible for the actions we take which do or do not lead to beliefs.
  • It would be wrong to hold us responsible for not trying hard enough to "choose" to believe, but it may be appropriate to hold us responsible for not trying hard enough to learn enough to arrive at reasonable beliefs.
  • One can be praised for acquiring beliefs through having gone to the trouble of studying, researching, and making a genuine attempt to gather as much information as possible. By the same token, one can be blamed for acquiring beliefs through deliberately ignoring evidence, arguments, and ideas which might tend to create doubt about long-held assumptions.
  • there can be no rational argument that a just God would send a person to hell if they had investigated and simply failed to find sufficient reason to believe.
  • Sometimes, we may value a comforting lie over a harsh truth
  • while we may be willing to allow others to believe a lie for their peace of mind, it is rare to find anyone who does not doggedly believe that they must always believe things that are truthful.
Sunny Jackson

Beliefs & Choices: Do We Choose Our Beliefs? If Beliefs Aren't Voluntary Acts of Will, ... - 0 views

  • Belief requires good reasons, and although people may differ on what constitutes "good reasons," it is those reasons which cause belief, not choice.
  • If a belief is impossible, then the opposite is not something we simply choose: it is the only option, something we are forced to accept.
  • If no one can deny something, then it isn't a choice to believe it.
Sunny Jackson

What Is Atheism? Narrow vs. Broad Definitions of Atheism: Why Do Atheists Define Atheis... - 0 views

  • broadly defined, atheism is the absence of belief in the existence of any gods
  • agnosticism is about knowledge rather than belief (a related, but separate issue)
  • Agnostic Theism: belief in a god without claiming to know for sure that the god exists.
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  • Agnostic Atheism: disbelief in gods without claiming to know for sure that none exist.
  • the simple absence of belief in gods — aside from being the default position — is automatically justified and made credible so long as theists are not successful in making a credible case for their god.
  • Atheists agree that gods exist as ideas in people’s minds; the disagreement lies over whether any gods actually exist independently of human beliefs.
  • Atheism implies no further belief system
  • Atheists vary as much in their beliefs and attitudes as theists do. If you know that a person is an atheist, then you know that he or she lacks belief in gods — nothing more, nothing less.
Sunny Jackson

Myth: Atheists Attack Theism & Religion Because They Deny God - Do Atheists' Criticisms... - 0 views

  • Not everything which an atheist does can be attributed to their atheism
  • beliefs and preferences may or may not be common for atheists, but they do not derive from atheism itself.
Sunny Jackson

Atheism and Theism; Proof and Disproof - 0 views

  • That the theists have some burden of proof simply cannot be denied. They are obviously making at least one claim - that at least one god exists. Theists must, then, be prepared to offer justification for their claims - they must face up to their burden of demonstrating that their assertions are reasonable.
  • one of the first steps any theist will have to take is to explain the nature of this god they are claiming.
  • Unless we have a good idea of what we are looking for, we'll never know if we've found it or not!
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  • atheists aren't necessarily making any particular claims about the world.
  • When a person says to you "I am an atheist," all you can really assume is that they are saying "I do not believe in any gods."
  • no one need deny any particular theistic beliefs in order to be an atheist, they only need to not believe in any gods, whatever their reasons or attitudes.
  • Just because an atheist believes something doesn't mean that that belief is so connected to atheism that, in order to justify atheism, the belief in question needs to be justified.
  • evolution describes how life has developed over time, not how it originated.
  • Unless an atheist does not believe in any gods because of evolution, the an atheist has absolutely no need to defend evolution in order to defend atheism.
  • There are theists who accept the explanation of evolution, and theists who do not. There are atheists who accept the explanation of evolution, and atheists who do not.
  • So atheism is not inherently dependent upon evolution
  • Theists will commonly ask "Well, where did the universe come from?" Like the atheist reaction to evolution, we can approach this question with: "I don't know. So what?" Unless a person's atheism is dependent upon a particular description of the origin of the universe, they neither need to know the answer to the theist's question nor do they need to support any particular answer.
  • The only possible origin for the universe which is incompatible with my atheism is that of a creation by a god. This, of course, would be for the theist to demonstrate - and if they cannot, my atheism remains, whatever the real origin is. I do not need to account for this "real origin" in order to account for my atheism.
  • Theists need to explain and account for their god, because that's what theism is: belief in a god.
  • I hold a wide variety of beliefs
  • my atheism is not about the universe
  • are atheists required to disprove theistic claims? In general, no.
  • the burden of proof is on whoever is making the claims.
  • This is sometimes on the atheist, if they choose to deny something specific.
  • Only after the theist has presented coherent and rational arguments might the atheist need to explain why she does not accept them.
  • justification of atheism is based upon inadequate justification for theism
  • Just because the atheist happens to disagree with the theist on other issues does not mean that the atheist needs to justify these other beliefs in order to justify atheism.
  • If the discussion is about the existence of gods, then that is where it must be kept.
Sunny Jackson

Is There a Godless Church of Liberalism or Atheism? Responding to Ann Coulter & Christi... - 0 views

  • Liberalism is a political philosophy, no different from conservatism
  • Liberalism is a political philosophy, no different from conservatism
  • a person can oppose abortion in principle but be unwilling to criminalize it
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  • children of all religions and no religions are equally free
  • Many who accept evolution do not believe that humanity was an acciden
  • It’s not enough to simply criticize liberal policies on the basis of real or even perceived flaws; instead, conservatives must claim that the real and fundamental problem with liberalism is that it is godless and then proceed to describe every real or perceived flaw as stemming from that godlessness.
  • Addressing the actual issues which liberals or atheists advocate would mean treating both the ideas and the people with some measure of respect.
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