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pacome delva on 14 Dec 09Where do you want to go to do academic research and still have a decent salary ? certainly not sweden, France or Germany... prefer the UK, US or the top... Switzerland !
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Luzi Bergamin on 14 Dec 09Where do you want to go to do academic research and still have fun? Where can you really do research instead of becoming an overpaid secretary? If you want to get rich go and work in investment banking...
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pacome delva on 14 Dec 09well.. i'd better live decently than get rich... which is not possible in Paris (take 1680 euros for one family and a 1000 euros rent, minus all normal expenses (health, car, insurance, ...), it's difficult to finish the month...) Without mentioning that in France you would become an underpaid secretary...!!! My ex phd director is a professor and she doesn't even have a secretary to manage the 150 applications to the master she is in charge... My experience would rather say that the salary and the time you have for research are quite decorrelated.
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Luzi Bergamin on 14 Dec 09Sure, 44k for a full professor, that's a bad joke! Just my experience from conferences: high saleries do not make good research, I rather suspect there's something like an optimal salery. People with too high saleries often seem to feel obliged to make much noise (whatever the reason might be), the result is not research but PR campagns.
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pacome delva on 14 Dec 09I agree ! Just a correction, net salary for a full professor starting in France: 36456 euros/year... For a McF (equivalent junior prof.): 20160 euros/year, and of course a shitload of admistrative tasks and teaching. I don't know why i still dream to have a position...?