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Group read, energy, week 4. Will solar energy let us fly to the sun in winter? | open D... - 0 views

  • Feb 7 2009. Join the Group Read. Chapters 5 and 6. Flight and Solar Will solar energy technologies allow us to sustainably take those long-haul flights to get our winter dose of sunshine? On the way, we discover that flying intecontinentally once per year has an energy cost slightly bigger than leaving a 1 kW electric fire on, non-stop, 24 hours a day, all year, despite the fact that modern planes are twice as fuel-efficient as a single-occupancy car. It may be no surprise, therefore, that Airline businessman Michael O’Leary, CEO of Ryanair, has developed a Swiftian the solution to the problem: " The best thing we can do with environmentalists is shoot them."
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Ch 4 Page 33: Sustainable Energy - without the hot air - 0 views

  • Table 4.5. Facts worth remembering: population density.
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      That's about 1 football pitch per person. If we evenly dot the wind turbines around the country, that means living in the football pitch and putting a turbine into the area around the goal. Of course, England is v.dense and Scotland v.sparse and windy. Will Scottish energy resources bail out England again?
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Sustainable Energy - without the hot air: Ch 3 Page 30 - 0 views

  • It’s been estimated that making each unit of petrol requires an input of 1.4 units of oil and other primary fuels (Treloar et al., 2004).
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      Just to be clear: this means that if I have 2.4 units of "primary fuels" (whatever they are), then I can expect to get 1 unit of petrol out. Quetion -- those 1.4 units ... are they _consumed_ in the refinery process, or are they partly bye-products that can be used for other things?
  • The total amount of car travel in the UK is 686 billion passenger-km per year, which corresponds to an “average distance travelled by car per British person” of 30 km per day.
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      I tried to do a quick compare with France. This very attractive site: http://sansvoiture.free.fr/index.php?menu=textes&sousmenu=autodecroissance claims 14,000 km per car per year average. At one person per car, driving 250 days per year, we get to 56km per day on average. I was hoping to say: "High Speed Trains were planned for in 1974 in France; more than 30 years later, their logic becomes clear..." even if this is true, the averages here don't scream it out ...
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Jan 30 - Cars and Wind. "Energy without hot air" Group Read - 0 views

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    Jan 30th - Car and Wind. In which we learn that a car eats (the energy equivalent of) half a kilo of butter per day on a typical commute, that although "Britain's onshore wind energy resource may be "huge," it's evidently not as huge as our huge consumption."
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Sustainable Energy - without the hot air: Ch 2 Page 27 - 0 views

  • But electrical energy can also be converted to chemical energy. In an alternative world (perhaps not far-off) with relatively plentiful electricity and little oil, we might use electricity to make liquid fuels;
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      Good reminder that "energy conversion-efficiency ratios" are a part of the technology/economic detail that are actually contingent on social and environmental choices. Imagine we were to sink a huge amount of capital into sustainable electricity sources that have about zero operating costs. We'd quite likely then be in the situation David describes with respect to chemcial/electric conversion multipliers.
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Sustainable Energy - without the hot air: Ch 2 Page 24 - 0 views

  • One kilowatt-hour per day is roughly the power you could get from one human servant. The number of kilowatt-hours per day you use is thus the effective number of servants you have working for you.
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      This speaks vividly to the social liberation made possible by the taming of energy!
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Sustainable Energy - without the hot air: Ch 2 Page 23 - 0 views

  • United Kingdom
  • focus too much on economic feasibility and they miss the big picture.
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      This is a _very_ important point. I spent a long time as an economist working on energy and environment issues - but the detail often obscures rather than elucidates. The question to focus on for energy policy is what kind of world to aim for - one of radical simplicity, or one supporting the "moderately affluent lifestyles" that David takes as a benchmark. The economics can follow once the broad lines are set.
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    I do keep coming back to the question of the UK focus of the book. Here are some questions: - is the UK's case generalisable? (what would be the point of finding out the UK can live sustainably if the rest of the world can't?) - is this intended simply to make the numbers mean something more directly? - so ... I keep coming back to the question of how to get this book localised. Maybe, rather than having a blank wiki for each country, a wiki with the current text and all the national references highlighted, so it would be easy to know what numbers to go and work on ...
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Sustainable Energy - without the hot air: Ch 1 Page 18 - 0 views

  • “Okay – it’s agreed; we announce – ‘to do nothing is not an option!’ then we wait and see how things pan out...”
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      So common ... :)
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Sustainable Energy - without the hot air: Ch 1 Page 17 - 0 views

  • but you should find it easy to redo the calculations for whatever country or region you are interested in.
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      so ... how would we localise the book? presumably by hacing a wiki version where the numbers and countries could be changed.
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      got it - it is here: http://www.withouthotair.com/Wiki.html it would be great to see this happening. Tony
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Sustainable Energy - without the hot air: Ch 1 Page 15 - 0 views

  • using a world population of six billion
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      Is this an average population over the period? Population is forecast to rise, no? Why not base the trajectory on a 9 bl population?
  • 1 ton per year per
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      1 ton Co2e per year per person for 6 bl people can probably be sustained
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Sustainable Energy - without the hot air: Ch 1 Page 13 - 0 views

  • Yes, the area of China’s rectangle is about the same as the USA’s, but the fact is that their per-capita emissions are below the world average. India’s per-capita emissions are less than half the world average. Moreover, it’s worth bearing in mind that much of the industrial emissions of China and India are associated with the manufacture of stuff for rich countries.
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      Here is the essence of the outrage felt by emerging econmies that _they_ ought to be bearing a cost.
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Sustainable Energy - without the hot air: Ch 1 Page 4 - 0 views

  • With numbers in place, we will be better placed to answer questions such as these
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      just as a placemark, before reading the book, my answers are 1.yes, 2.no, 3.yes, 4.not literally, 5.no, 6.maybe, 7.yes, 8.no ... yours?
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Sustainable Energy - without the hot air: Ch 1 Page 3 - 0 views

  • This heated debate is fundamentally about numbers.
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      It is also a political issue of trust in the government. There is a great write-up of the politics of the last UK energy review over here: http://www.opendemocracy.net/blog/ourkingdom-theme/paul-dorfman/2008/11/07/nuclear-consultation-public-trust-in-government There are 2 distinct issues: the truth of the matter (the numbers, what we are looking for in EWHA and the communication of the truth and value judgements based on the numbers. There has certainly been failure in the latter.
  • if everyone does a little, we’ll achieve only a little.
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      I have to disagree: some social effort aggregates. We all pay a bit of tax, but it amounts to quite a lot in the collective purse. Just one obvious example.
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      Both Charles' and Michael's points are about presentation of numbers, not impacts. I took David to be talking about changes to the physical world, not to the world of opinions. The logic of the "Tragedy of the commons" is that each person can take actions which individually seem harmless - or very low harm - but, when everyone performs them - add up to something substantial. Take throwing away litter as a (trivial but obvious) example - as someone said in NPR phone-in today ... despite all the good sentiment about collective action at the Obama inauguration, Washington was still covered in rubbish by the end of the day !
  • BP’s website
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      And remember that BP stands for "Beyond Petroleum" ... from the school of spin that says "if accused of x, simply assert that the opposite is the case".
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