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Gary Patton

"Only the Holy Spirit Can Interpret Scriptures for Christians" - Bible Gateway - 0 views

  • 1 Corinthians 2:8-10
  • it is written:“What no eye has seen,    what no ear has heard,and what no human mind has conceived”[a]—    the things God has prepared for those who love him—(C) 10 these are the things God has revealed(D) to us by his Spirit.
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    "Only the Holy Spirit Can Interpret Scriptures for Christians" 1 Corinthians 2:8-10 in the Christian new Covenant (Testament) makes clear that Jesus Followers can read all the commentaries they wish but it is ONLY Holy Spirit who confirms for us in our spirit what any Scripture R-E-A-lly means (Regenerating & Relational - Engaging & Effervescent - Authentic & Actualizing - Loving & Life-giving & Loving)
Gary Patton

Hebrews 10:24-25 NIV1984 - And let us consider how we may spur one - Bible Gateway - 1 views

  • ebrews 10:24-25
  • Let us not give up meeting together,(B) as some are in the habit of doing,
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    "The Justification for 'Churchianity'" "Church", as practised in much of the west, is not a Bible concept. (You can learn why this is true by reading "Pagan Christianity" by Verse 25 below is the only Scripture verse, never mind a passage, which church leaders can use to justify the western tradition of "Sunday Morning Services" as we do them. GaryFPatton With my compliments and permission to reproduce, without change or profiteering, including the following: © Copyright 2012 Gary F. Patton, PattonAssociates.ca, People Development Coaches (gfp '42™ 2010-11-24)
Gary Patton

The Cross and the Sword » Sermon Series by Greg Boyd - 1 views

  • The Cross and the Sword
    • Gary Patton
       
      In the four short Sermons below, Dr. Boyd exposes the dangerous consequences of the myth of the Christian Nation held by many in the body of Christ. GaryFPatton
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    Dr. Boyd exposes the dangerous consequences of the myth of the. Christian Nation.
Gary Patton

Jesus' Cousin John Baptizes Him - Matthew 3 VOICE - Bible Gateway - 0 views

  • Matthew 3 (The Voice)
  • Jesus is the living Branch, the branch of David that extends the reach of the tree of Israel eventually to foreigners and outsiders.
  • a man called John[a] began to travel, preach, and ritually wash people through baptism in the wilderness of Judea. John preached a stern but exciting message.
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  • Repent! For the kingdom of heaven is near.
  • John’s proclamation fulfilled a promise made by the ancient prophet Isaiah, who had said, “There will be a voice calling from the desert, saying,Prepare the road for the Eternal One’s journey
  • The Anointed One, whose way John comes to prepare, will call humanity away from comfort and status; He will call His followers to challenge their assumptions and the things they take for granted.
  • But John is not exactly warm to all those who come to him seeking cleansing.
  •  If you think that simply hopping in the Jordan will cleanse you, then you are sorely mistaken.
    • Gary Patton
       
      As John said 2000 years ago to religious people, then, turning from sinful violations of God's commands is the key to eternal life ...not, baptism, sitting in a church building regularly or reading the Bible! Only Jesus can empower a person to do what's needed for salvation from the coming horrible wrath of God against sinners on earth or at the door to heaven if you die first!
  • God can adopt as daughters and sons anyone He likes
  • To be made right with God, one must truly repent. It means to turn completely away from sin and completely toward God.
  • I ritually cleanse you through baptism[d] as a mark of turning your life around. But someone is coming after me, someone whose sandals I am not fit to carry, someone who is more powerful than I. He will wash[e] you not in water but in fire and with the Holy Spirit. 12 He carries a winnowing fork in His hand, and He will clear His threshing floor; He will gather up the good wheat in His barn, and He will burn the chaff with a fire that cannot be put out.
  • then, the One of whom John spoke—the all-powerful Jesus—came to the Jordan from Galilee to be washed[f] by John
  • Jesus emerged from His baptism;[h] and at that moment heaven was opened, and Jesus saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming upon Him, alighting on His very body. Voice from Heaven: 17 This is My Son, whom I love; this is the Apple of My eye; with Him I am well pleased.
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    Jesus thought Baptism was crucial. gfp
Gary Patton

THREE REASONS WHY TRADITIONAL DISCIPLESHIP DOESN’T WORK | Simple Disciplesh... - 1 views

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    The future of a vibrant, growing Church in North Americas lies in the effective adoption by Jesus Followers and their Pastors of the spiritual truths in this article!
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    Great resource. Our church has a course called Corpus Christie that utilizes many of these methods to make theology more than just cognitive and makes it a relevant, meaningful and emotional experience. really putting the rubber to the road as it were.
Gary Patton

"'The God of This Age' Blinds The Lost ...Prayer Loosens His Hold" - Bible Gateway - 0 views

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    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 makes clear that someone or something prevents many, called unbelievers in the Christian New Covenant (Testament) from hearing the "Gospel" (Good News") of Jesus of Nazareth. And the Biblical Jesus is NOT the Muslim Isa of the Islamic Qur'an regardless of what some Christians or churches teach.
Gary Patton

"One Biblical Account of Jesus' Crucifixion" - Bible Gateway - 0 views

  • So the soldiers took charge of Jesus.
  • Here they crucified him, and with him two others—one on each side and Jesus in the middle
  • Pilate had a notice prepared and fastened to the cross. It read: jesus of nazareth, the king of the jews.
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  • written in Aramaic, Latin and Greek.
  • When the soldiers crucified Jesus, they took his clothes
  • This happened that the scripture might be fulfilled which said,“They divided my garments among them    and cast lots for my clothing.
  •  Later, knowing that all was now completed, and so that the Scripture would be fulfilled, Jesus said, “I am thirsty.” 29 A jar of wine vinegar was there, so they soaked a sponge in it, put the sponge on a stalk of the hyssop plant, and lifted it to Jesus’ lips. 30 When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
  •  Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath
  • one of the soldiers pierced Jesus’ side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water.
  • These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: “Not one of his bones will be broken,”[b] 37 and, as another scripture says, “They will look on the one they have pierced.”[c]
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    "One Biblical Account of Jesus' Crucifixion" John 19:16-42 in the Christian New Covenant (Testament) describes the death of Yeshua (Jesus) on His cross. He voluntarily, as God the Son, Emmanuel, God in flesh and bones. He dis so to redeem all who will believe in Him and His sacrifice for them as God from their violation of God the Father's laws and their sin nature by means of the saving power of Gog the Holy Spirit.
Gary Patton

Shine & Sting in the World - Bible Gateway - 0 views

  • “You are the salt of the earth.
  • “You are the light of the world
  • let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
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  • Matthew 5:13-16
  • Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house
Gary Patton

To Risk Perishing or Not To Risk? - Bible Gateway - 0 views

  • And if I perish, I perish.
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      Placed in it's context of a mysogynist, male-dominated culture and society, I feel this is a wonderful example of God-given grace and a way out as promised to His people in 1 Corointhians 10:13.
  • Esther 4:15-16
    • Gary Patton
       
      Esther 4:15-16 poses an interesting question to us in our day: "From where did Esther get her courage to risk death? And equally important are we guaranteed the same result when we risk for Jesus' Kingdom? gfp (2012-04-17)
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The Who, Why & What of Abundant & Eternal Life - Bible Gateway - 1 views

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Does God Get What God Wants? - Bible Gateway - 0 views

  • God our Savior, 4 (B)who desires all men to be (C)saved
  • 1 Timothy 2:3-4
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    1 Timothy 2:3-4 confirms God's heart for those not in personal relationship with him because they don't know Jesus personally. gfp (2012-05-05)
Gary Patton

Liberal Christian Scholarship ...Redaction Criticism, and Islam (Part 1) - 0 views

  • Some Brief Thoughts Regarding Liberal Scholarship, Redaction Criticism, and Islam
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      In this article, Dr. James White, of Alpha & Omega Ministries examines the dangers of "Redaction and Form Criticism" in Christian scholarship (sic) and the refusal by Muslim scholars to apply it to Islam while using it to attack Christians beliefs based on our Bible. gfp (2012-03-27)
  • the vast majority of those who embrace form and redaction criticism in all of its flavors and kinds do so out of tradition, not out of having examined the case set forth in defense of these methods.
  • I truly wondered why the Lord had closed all other doors and put me in that context, but, now I know) forced me to consider deeply why I could not in good conscience embrace the "status quo" of modern NT scholarship
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  • I found, over and over again, the same kind of bald anti-supernaturalism at work, even amongst those who did not openly espouse such a view in their "religious life."
  • This kind of double-mindedness was epidemic in Christian theology then. It is still quite prevalent, but in the past decade more and more have shed the religious trappings and are seeking to be consistent, not even bothering with the religious garb any longer.
  • I would challenge (respectfully
  • saying the gospels were quite late, post AD 70, for example, I would ask why they would date them so late (and, as a result, deny the eyewitness authorship of, say, Matthew)
  • we would date them late because…of theories. Theories about how documents develop (in the natural world). Theories about how the early church developed (based upon, again, how such things happen in the natural world). And of course the big reason was…they had to have been written after AD 70 because, well, they couldn't have been written before otherwise they would contain…prophecy about the destruction of Jerusalem! And we all know prophecy doesn't really exist, so there!
  • I only learned later in seminary and after graduation how confident scholarship had been in the past in giving even later dates, German scholarship, for example, having dated John as late as AD 175, only to have those dates thrown to the wind by manuscript discoveries.
  • the "consensus of scholarship," especially in a day when humanism and naturalistic materialism has become the religious dogma of the society, and of higher education, is not an option for the faithful follower of the teachings of Jesus the Messiah.
  • For years Shabir Ally had been making a presentation wherein he presents the "snowball" argument. It is a basic anti-gospel argument based upon a rather simplistic viewpoint of the origination of the gospels.
  • Shabir thinks there is an over-riding impetus on the part of both Matthew and Luke to "grow" Jesus, assuming, of course, an evolution in the development of Christology (another assumption that is just accepted, never proven). So, Matthew and Luke are looking for ways to "improve" on Jesus---which puts them in the category of deceivers, really, at the very least from an Islamic viewpoint
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      Muslims who, like Imam Ally have a minimal knowldge of the New Covenat and wish to feign politness, can use this "improvement" approach. It prevents them from having to use the blunt English word change when attacking Scriptures validity. During the debate, I heard a Muslim and a Christian in the seats immediately behind me discussing the semantical difference between these words. The Christian suspected, as do I, that Imam Ally was accusing the Apostles Mathew and Luke of being "liars".
  • examples of where Matthew was "growing" Jesus
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      "Growing" is Dr. White's word. Imam Ally never used it. Instead, he stated candidly that Mathew and Luke intentionally "deified" a human Prophet which Muslims say Yeshua only was because "Allah doesn't begat" (Qur'an 23:88-91).
  • Shabir did not know that Mark used the Greek term κύριος (kurios) when he was making his presentations before 2006, but he does now. But still, in our debate in Toronto, he argued that in fact this is still an example supportive of his thesis, no matter what his understanding had been before, for "lord of the house" is still different from "Lord." He likewise cited a scholar who, writing on the "synoptic problem," likewise mentions this "change."
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      In other words, Imam Ally has found an obfuscating, so-called, Christian author to justify what he now knows is a 'lie" that he wishes to still feed to his ignorant Muslim audience, knowing that they will believe him over Dr. White.
  • let's talk about how this text could be seen in a very different fashion.
  • Let's admit something: We do not know when any of the gospels were written. They have no date stamps on them. If we examine the internal material of the Synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) without naturalistic biases, we would have to conclude they were written between 35 and about 65 AD (i.e., after the crucifixion but prior to the opening of hostilities leading to the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus in AD 70)
  • As Richard Bauckham has pointed out (and his role in our debate was most interesting, and again illustrated that I really do not believe Dr. Ally understands my point on this matter), the eyewitnesses to the events of the gospel continued in the church for many decades, forming a very important core element of the continuation of the gospel message.
  • The gospel story began to be proclaimed by the eyewitnesses and the first generation of believers immediately after Pentecost. It spread like wildfire, turning the world upside down. It spread both by zeal as well as by persecution. The oral tradition of the church was the context out of which the gospels themselves were written. The gospel writers were fully aware of that tradition. They were not seeking to supplant it, but to organize it and preserve it in yet another form.
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      During the debate, I could not understand why Dr. White kept referring to the "oral tradition" as he does here without once making the powerful point that the Gospel writers were the originators of the tradition as the disciples of Jesus. They were writing about their eye witness accounts ...not recounting an oral tradion circulated first by others.
  • This oral tradition, something shared by the entire community, is the source out of which they drew their narrative.
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      It is the source only to the extend that they, themselves, were the creaters of the so-called "oral tradition" as members of Jesus "inside group of disciples".
  • If we assume that Matthew and Mark are not liars, that they are not dishonest men, and that they are seeking to communicate a message faithfully, drawing from the tradition known to them, we conclude, upon examination of numerous texts such as the above, that
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      Here Dr. White writes again like the Gospel accounts were repeated by the Apostles from what others said rather than them writing down the stories in which they, themselves, particiapted with Jesus. Dr. White's approach confuses me because, to me, it doesn't make the point regarding eye-witness testimony!
  • we can see that both are giving us perfectly proper renditions of the same incident and the same words, one in fuller form than the other, both seeking to communicate the same concept, though to two different audiences.
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      Police and lawyer studies confirm this type of variiance is common between eye witness accounts when an event is seem from different perspectives through the experiences and mindset of unique people. I'm unclear why Dr. white doesn't state this fact which reinforces his hypothesis about Scripture's timeline and seeming contradictions.
Gary Patton

NIV - But from everlasting to everlasting the - Bible Gateway - 0 views

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    Psalm 103:17-18 states clearly that God will save the children of Jesus Followers! gfp (2012-05-20)
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The Violent & Valiant Take Heaven - 0 views

  • " The violent and valiant are they which take heaven by force: cowards never won heaven. Say not that thou hast royal blood running in thy veins, and art begotten of God, except thou canst prove thy pedigree by this heroic spirit, to dare to be holy despite men and devils. The eagle tries her young ones by the sun; Christ tries his children by their courage, that dare to look on the face of death and danger for his sake ..." (Mark 8:34, 35) ~ Pastor William Gurnall (1617–1679) English author & clergyman from Chpt. 1 of his e-Book, "The Christian in Complete Armour ...A Treatise Of the Saints' War Against the Devil" at http://is.gd/Na6TmN "Take heart therefore, O ye saints, and be strong; your cause is good, God himself espouseth your quarrel, who hath appointed you his own Son, General of the field, called 'the Captain of our salvation,’ Heb. 2:10. He shall lead you on with courage, and bring you off with honour. He lived and died for you; he will live and die with you; for mercy and tenderness to his soldiers, none like him. Trajan, it is said, rent his clothes to bind up his soldiers' wounds: Christ poured out his blood as balm to heal his saints' wounds; tears off his flesh to bind them up. For prowess, none to compare with him: he never turned his head from danger: no, not when hell's malice and heaven's justice appeared in field against him; knowing all that should come upon him, [he] went forth and said, 'Whom seek ye?’" (John 18:4) ~ Pastor William Gurnall (1617–1679) English author & clergyman from Chpt. 1 of his e-Book, "The Christian in Complete Armour ...A Treatise Of the Saints' War Against the Devil" at http://is.gd/Na6TmN "In a word, Christians, God and angels are spectators, observing how you quit yourselves like children of the Most High; every exploit your faith doth against sin and Satan causeth a shout in heaven; while you valiantly prostrate this temptation, scale that difficulty, regain the other ground, you even now lost out of your enemies' hands. Your dear Saviour, who stands by with a reserve for your relief at a pinch, his very heart leaps within him for joy to see the proof of your love to him and zeal for him in all your combats; and will not forget all the faithful service you have done in his wars on earth; but when thou comest out of the field, will receive thee with the like joy as he was entertained himself at his return to heaven of his Father." ~ Pastor William Gurnall (1617–1679) English author & clergyman from Chpt. 1 of his e-Book, "The Christian in Complete Armour ...A Treatise Of the Saints' War Against the Devil" at http://is.gd/Na6TmN
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    How to make heaven by Pastor William Gurnall (1617-1679) English author & clergyman from Chpt. 1 of his e-Book, "The Christian in Complete Armour ...A Treatise Of the Saints' War Against the Devil" at http://is.gd/Na6TmN
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God Did Not Write the Bible by Kathy Vestral - 0 views

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    This is an interesting article that presents a good argument for title. Also interesting is the debate in the "Comments Section" between two knowledgeable Jesus Followers re "Bible Inerancy". GaryFPatton (gfp '42™ 2012-07-12)
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The Violent & Valiant Take Heaven - 0 views

" The violent and valiant are they which take heaven by force: cowards never won heaven. Say not that thou hast royal blood running in thy veins, and art begotten of God, except thou canst prove th...

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Paul's Romans in Point Form | Centre for Public Christianity - 0 views

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    This article is a point form & section-by-section explanation of Paul's letter to the Romans published originally via Twitter by Dr. John Dickson, Director of the Centre for Public Christianity in 2011-10.
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    Want to understand Romans better. Check out this point-form analysis. gfp
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    Romans in point-form by a scholar who knows how to write and does it point-form for Romans on Twitter.
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God's Shadow Activity in the Old Testsament" - Video by Greg Boyd, .S. Christian Theolo... - 0 views

  • God's Shadow Activity
    • Gary Patton
       
      In this video, Greg Boyd, a Jesus-Following theologian, expands on his thesis of a seemingly hateful and vengeful "God Coming Out of the Shadows" by sending Jesus ...His R-E-A-Lity (Relational-Engaging-Authentic-Loving/Life-giving)
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"Jesus Followers Aren't Required to Obey Old Covenant Law" - Joel Rosenberg - 0 views

  • FIRESTORM UPDATE: RESPONDING TO READERS’ QUESTIONS ON GAY MARRIAGE VS. BIBLICAL MARRIAGE
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    Jesus Followers Aren't Required to Obey Old Covenant Law The article below is an excellent summary of the above topic and includes the Scriptural backing for this theological position. "Stand free and don't allow yourself to be brought under a yoke of bondage any longer!" (Galatians 3:1)
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Lifestyle Evangelism Refuted - Dr. Curtis Hutson - 0 views

  • Lifestyle Evangelism Refuted
  • Joseph Aldrich said, "Sometimes the only exposure to evangelism for believers is being part of a weekly task force on a 'spiritual safari' into enemy territory. On such forays total strangers are confronted with a verbal message said to be the Gospel."
  • Rather, they feel they are simply obeying the Great Commission, "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15).
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  • Nowhere in Scripture is the Christian told to incarnate the Gospel.
  • "button-holing and evangelical mugging."
  • This false philosophy teaches that we witness with our life rather than our lips.
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    Dr. Hutson refutes something that Joseph Aldrich never taught and many practitioners do do by "cheery-picking" short quotes from Mr. Aldrich's book. Few Jesus Followers I know use only their behaviour and deeds to be used by Holy Spirit to draw their friends, neighbours, relatives, and workmates to a saving knowledge of Jesus of Nazareth.
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