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Dr. Fridemar Pache

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  • It is great to see the wiki philosophy in TrailFire (partially) applied. My suggestion is: what about WikiWords (like the last one),i.e. automatic links to a dedicated Wiki for each trail. In the same sense each mark should be individually addressable via an URL as a wiki-page. Another more powerful option would be a global TrailFire community wiki, which would be a common database for making rich link context supported marks. Thank you for making TrailFire available as very helpful community service that brings our planet on a new level of togetherness. Posted by fridemar | May 11, 2007 3:31 PM
    • Dr. Fridemar Pache
       
      Dear Diigos, I love Diigo and I love increasingly FireTrail (I am quite new there). They even have realized some wikiness there. To keep both social annotation informed, I give you a copy of my blog comment there: Copy: It is great to see the wiki philosophy in TrailFire (partially) applied. My suggestion is: what about WikiWords (like the last one),i.e. automatic links to a dedicated Wiki for each trail. In the same sense each mark should be individually addressable via an URL as a wiki-page. Another more powerful option would be a global TrailFire community wiki, which would be a common database for making rich link context supported marks. Thank you for making TrailFire available as very helpful community service that brings our planet on a new level of togetherness. Posted by fridemar | May 11, 2007 3:31 PM CopyEnd
  • Glad you like the wiki features. We have definitely thought about expanding the wiki-ness (or at least, the ability of the author to enable wiki-ness) in some of the ways you mention. We'll be continuing to add features that make it easy to collaborate on projects around a trail or set of trails, with a group of contacts or with the world at large. Posted by Mike Perkowitz | May 11, 2007 4:10 PM
    • Dr. Fridemar Pache
       
      Dear Diigos,
      this was the answer of Mike Perkowitz,  who had implemented a lot of Trailfire:

      Copy:
      Glad you like the wiki features. We have definitely thought about expanding the wiki-ness (or at least, the ability of the author to enable wiki-ness) in some of the ways you mention. We'll be continuing to add features that make it easy to collaborate on projects around a trail or set of trails, with a group of contacts or with the world at large. Posted by Mike Perkowitz | May 11, 2007 4:10 PM CopyEnd:

      I qote him here, for your convenience, because the clip didn't show up under the Diigo bookmarks.

      By the same observation, although I wanted to tag this bookmark with the tags: "diigo wiki annotation trailfire blog comment", I couldn't find an entry. Suggestion: Leave a field for tagging in your "Add sticky note" or at least in the Actionsbox. Thank you.

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Dr. Fridemar Pache

Meatball Wiki: WikiAnnotation - 0 views

  • WikiAnnotation means annotation of WikiPages.
  • WikiAnnotation means annotation of > WikiPages > . > Why is WikiAnnotation important for Online Communities? Isn't Wiki enough? Wikis allow inline annotations with normal wiki page editing? -- FridemarPache Note: Don't confuse an AnnotationWiki with WikiAnnotation. An AnnotationWiki is a repository for annotations material, to be pasted into rich text/link annotation dialogues, whereas WikiAnnotation makes only wiki pages the targets of annotations. Of course an AnnotationWiki can be itself the target of some WikiAnnotation. Discussion:
    • Dr. Fridemar Pache
       
      In this TrailFireTrail, we test the capabilities of DiiGo and TrailFire to
      annotate WikiPages (WikiAnnotation)
      annotate annotations (AnnotationAnnotation)InteroperabilityOfDiiGoWithFireTrail would mean: it is possible to annotate DiiGo annotations with FireTrailAnnotations andFireTrailAnnotations with DiiGo annotations It is easy to see, that DiiGo marked text (DiiGo highlighted text) can be marked by TrailFire.
      The converse however doesn't appear to work yet .
      To test this
      (1) I took a DiiGoMarkedText in the WikiAnnotation page and copied it into the rich text TrailFireAnnotationDIalog.

      (2) I DiiGoMarked [this text in brackets, but without the brackets]  and looked at the result of the TrailFireAnnotation, after having edited it.

      No wonder. Trailfire is so new, that DiiGo has not settled the problems.

  • {0 {1 {2 Hans, can you see the upper paragraphs on this page DiiGo marked in total. Currently I cannot get rid of the highlighted DiiGo text. -- fridemar } The text in curly braces, numbered 2, was copied into a FireTrailMark as temporary work text. When this page gets refactored, it can be deleted. In the meantime, it serves as an illustration, how useful TrailFire and DiiGo is for maintaining a WikiPage. The text in curly braces, numbered 1, is again copied into a FireTrailMark and a DiiGo annotation, so that later it can be deleted too, after it has served as an illustration. 1} -- fridemar dto. for block 0. Later after using the annotation tools, such collaboration interaction can be factored out straight from the start on. I hope to have demonstrated, how useful WikiAnnotation can be. 0}
    • Dr. Fridemar Pache
       
      {0
      {1
      {2 Hans, can you see the upper paragraphs on this page DiiGo marked in total.
      Currently I cannot get rid of the highlighted DiiGo text. -- fridemar
      }
      The text in curly braces, numbered 2, was copied into a FireTrailMark as temporary work text. When this page gets
      refactored, it can be deleted. In the meantime, it serves as an illustration, how useful TrailFire and DiiGo is for maintaining
      a WikiPage.
      The text in curly braces, numbered 1, is again copied into a FireTrailMark and a DiiGo annotation, so that later it
      can be deleted too, after it has
      served as an illustration.
      1}
      -- fridemar
      dto. for block 0. Later after using the annotation tools, such collaboration interaction can be factored out straight
      from the start on. I hope to have demonstrated, how useful WikiAnnotation can be.
      0}
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  • Enlarge Space: If there are lots of people, who make annotations, the Wiki Pages will become unmanagable. By sourcing out the ThreadMode, the need for refactoring pages is reduced considerably
    • Dr. Fridemar Pache
       
      What happens, if there is already a highlighted text with a public annotation and annother peer will annotate it?
      I see, there is a comment button for inserting additional comments. But only authors can edit their own text.
  • it makes an ugly page overburdened with annotation markers: DiiGo TrailFire programmers, please make a big toggle markers button!!
    • Dr. Fridemar Pache
       
      Dear DiiGo programmers, we need a simple button, to toggle on/off the DiiGo markers. Currently it is very cumbersome to sign off for eliminating the markers temporarily and then again to sign in. On the other hand the markers of TrailFire are much less obtrusive, but more difficult to find.
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Dr. Fridemar Pache

Meatball Wiki: MarkUrl - 0 views

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    wiki annotation wikiannotation markurl fridemar asktrailfire

    Dear Diigos,  dear  TrailFire  peers,
    Diigos can learn a lot from the Url-based design of FireTrail. This architecture promises to reach the level of the precursor annotation system of KaPingYee, where each WebPage can annotate each other. As a special case: Each annotation can be titled, referred to, googled, and be annotated by annother annotation. Congratulations to TrailFire for this architecture.

    To both DiiGo and TrailFire programmers: please make the annotations like normal windows.
    One click should  make them fullsize  windows,  another  click  minimize them  as  appropriate.
     
    MayAllBeHappy
    Fridemar

    This is a DiiGo+TrailFire annotation.

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Bookmarks not saved by the system - 99 views

Dear Maggie, I think, it might help to reduce anxiousness on losing bookmarks and annotations, if not addressing them on specific groups. Instead of this making them general and leaving a posting...

admin group

Graham Perrin

case-sensitive tags - any chance of it happening? - 383 views

> tag case will be preserved while displaying, but ignored for search Seems to work well for the majority of use cases. Thanks :)

discussion tag case CamelCase case-sensitive help suggestion

Dr. Fridemar Pache

Meatball Wiki: DiiGoVideos - 2 views

  • (Work in progress) DiiGo videos with embedded annotations, where the listed videos are embedded in DiiGo annotations Diigo: Free Tool to Highlight, Annotate, Bookmark Websites {at this moment the author still doesn't know how to do the embedding, so the initial author of this growing page, gives you a [direct link first]. :-) } Highlight and Annotate Websites Using Diigo 1 {[a second direct link]} -- [fridemar]
  • { To test, if collaboration by annotation works at this early state in the history of social annotation, the author DiiGo s and TrailMark s this page. He asks his peers in Wiki, DiiGo and FireTrail: can somebody show him how to embed videos in DiiGo or FireTrail annotations (or better) can somebody continue his work by making the wanted video enhanced annotation on this page [AskDiigo] [AskTrailFire] [AskWiki] }
    • Dr. Fridemar Pache
       
      { To test, if collaboration by annotation works at this early state in the history of social annotation, the author DiiGo s and TrailMark s this page. He asks his peers in Wiki, DiiGo and FireTrail: can somebody show him how to embed videos in DiiGo or FireTrail annotations (or better) can somebody continue his work by making the wanted video enhanced annotation on this page [AskDiigo] [AskTrailFire] [AskWiki] }
  • PS.: { To test, if collaboration by annotation works at this early state in the history of social annotation, the author > is going to DiiGo > and TrailMark > this page. He asks his peers in Wiki >, DiiGo > and > TrailFire: c an somebody show him how to embed videos i >n DiiGo > or > FireTrail > > annotations (or better) > can somebody continue his work by making the wanted video enhanced annotation on this page > [AskDiigo] > [AskTrailFire] > [AskWiki] > can some DiiGo please suggest to the programmers of DiiGo, to offer movable annotation markers, because, you can see, that changes in the marked text break the static annotation markers apart in case, if there is an option for floating annotations, please leave an answer under the tag [AskDiigo] as an incentive the author asked this question in AskYahoo? too. } >
    • Dr. Fridemar Pache
       
      As WikiPage content is updated often, this needs special care of the design of the annotation engine. Programmers of DiiGo can use this text as a testcase.
    • Dr. Fridemar Pache
       
      PS.: { To test, if collaboration by annotation works at this early state in the history of social annotation, the author is going to DiiGo and TrailMark this page. He asks his peers in Wiki, DiiGo and TrailFire: * can somebody show him how to embed videos in DiiGo or FireTrail annotations (or better) * can somebody continue his work by making the wanted video enhanced annotation on this page [AskDiigo] [AskTrailFire] [AskWiki] * can some DiiGo please suggest to the programmers of DiiGo, to offer movable annotation markers, because, you can see, that changes in the marked text break the static annotation markers apart * in case, if there is an option for floating annotations, please leave an answer under the tag [AskDiigo] * as an incentive the author asked this question in [AskYahoo] too. }
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Dr. Fridemar Pache

DiiGo TrailFire Wiki Collaboration - 51 views

Dear Diigos, dear Maggie: I understand. Otherwise this forum might be swamped with announcements of new Diigo groups. In my case, I was the first one, not yet aware of these consequences, because...

collaboration diigo wiki spam (electronic)

ken meece

Five Ways to Mark Up the Web - 2 views

  • Jim Stroud April 10th, 2007 at 10:34 pm I use Diigo religiously! In my professional life, I train recruiters on how to use the internet to find hidden talent as well as conduct extensive online research on behalf of my employer. I tell EVERYONE that Diigo is THE product to use (bar none) and encourage any and all to try it for themselves. I diigo! Do you diigo?
  • Phil97 April 10th, 2007 at 11:16 pm I’ve spent a lot of time using Diigo. I’ve looked over the other services you mention, just in case there was something better out there. Day in and day out, I can work more quickly and easily. It’s so powerful I still haven’t scratched the surface. They seem to be making it better all the time, and they listen to their users. Diigo rocks the Web!
  • lela April 11th, 2007 at 6:57 am Diigo! I am a diigo user.and through my using,i find diigo is very easy.This litter tool has made my study very conveniently . I have introduced this tool to my classmates .Because this ,i want to be a diigo spreader.
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  • The fundamental problems of annotation, regarding construction and usability - remain, even though the web infrastructure has opened up.
  • The memex concept of “trails” doesn’t seem to be captured by many of the current systems (except perhaps TrailFire and ShiftSpace? ) I think the wiki article on memex covers the differences: http://en.wikip....org/wiki/Memex
  • We could be wrong about that, perhaps Diigo or some evolved form of Google Notebook will be the One True Meta-web the market selects. But we should at least stop to consider what it means to have our online culture be privately controlled (or pseudo-publicly controlled; ICANN, etc.).
  • Search has led us astray. A better solution may well come from the way we filter information in real life (where we can’t search cause its not free, there’s no google for the real world). We start locally with things we trust and bring in sources local to those. I trust the NYT and my friends, and find new things to trust from there. When I want to find out something, THAT’s the set I want to search.
  • Stickis.com brings to YOU information from YOUR socially proximate and trusted sources. Wherever you browse the web, it tells you what your personally selected Crowd of friends, bloggers etc have said.
  • Blogrovr.com does this for blogs. Tell Rovr what blogs you like and wherever you browse on the web, rovr tells you what they’ve said about the page you’re on.
  • Wade Ren April 11th, 2007 at 6:04 pm Re: Meer on Diigo - “90% of those features (except annotation) are rarely used by a regular web surfer. Indeed, web annotation itself is not for 90% of the users, and is likely to be adopted only by the minority of the web users who consume information diligently. After all, everyone knows that having a pen and a highlighter while you read is really helpful for digesting and retaining information — but how many actually do it? For the minority of the users that do make use of web annotation, our user feedback tells us Diigo’s other features are quite appreciated. In addition, the Diigo plug-in is completely customizable, allowing users to only keep the features they want
  • For this reason, we are positioning JumpKnowledge as more of a personal annotation tool and not a social annotation tool. This allows us to focus JKN and make it easy as possible to use for non-technical creators and readers.
  • This has enabled search engines to index their pages and generate a fair amount of organic traffic.
  • Wade Ren April 11th, 2007 at 11:54 am Nick, Thanks for covering the web annotation area and mentioning Diigo here. Since the Techcrunch review last August, we have been developing lots of new features and we hope we can give you a demo soon. As a sort of quick showcase of Diigo, click this link to see some annotations on this post http://srl.diigo.com/11xq — no plug-in is needed and you can be using any of the major browsers (firefox, ie, opera, safari) .
  • Stickis Subscribe to only the annotations you want Stickis is a web page annotation service that lets you subscribe to content “channels” from your friends and the community via a browser plugin.
    • eyal matsliah
       
      the same functionality is in diigo's display annotations by group
  • We’re looking forward to achieve a point where we not necessarily compete but can share resources and standards and work together to finally make this great potential for a metaweb to come true.
  • eyalnow April 18th, 2007 at 9:02 am I discovered Diigo two months ago, became an avid user and a self-proclaimed product evangelist, and recently started working for the company. Diigo for me is the knowledge-management solution I was looking for. What sets diigo apart is that it handles *Knowledge*, rather than mere links. It is the ONLY solution that lets me *permanently* highlight and annotate specific text on a webpage, which is then saved to my diigo profile. Diigo complements the mental process in which a sentence “jumps” at you, and you make a mental note about it. By highlighting the sections I deem important, I better understand and remember what I read. I believe there is scientific proof for this. As time goes by, I’m building a repository of all the important Knowledge I find on the net, which I can easily manage, tag, retrieve and aggregate. Regarding the ’social’ aspect: Diigo provides me immediate personal benefits, and I can then share this knowledge with others of my choosing, and follow what other individuals or groups are finding on the net. Not just the pages(links) they are browsing, but the actual sections that they deem important, and their reactions to it. I think that Diigo is not only for ‘researchers’. Most of us conduct some sort of research whenever we read a news article, shop for an appliance, view photos or videos, or read a blogpost. Although I appreciate the other services, and might occasionally use some of them, I find that Diigo already incorporates and combines MOST of their important features, in a way that is more robust and scalable. Diigo specifically addresses the issue that was mentioned in the introduction of this tech-crunch comparison - mark up the web and make annotations on webpages.
  • I diigo! Do you diigo?
    • ken meece
       
      "I diigo! Do you diigo?" i want a T-shirt that says this on the back, along with the DIIGO logo and on the front? the Firefox fox logo, of course
  • I diigo! Do you diigo?
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    review of Diigo, Fleck, shiftspace , stickis , trailfire,
Dr. Fridemar Pache

Meatball Wiki: TwinPage - 0 views

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    • Dr. Fridemar Pache
       
      Annotations need to be URL-based as TrailFire does it. You can click [1] and you get ample annotations. In this case a snapshot of the whole page, of which I am the author. In wikis longer contributions are not the exception. So please get rid of the 5000 words barrier.
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    Again a comparison of DiiGo and FireTrail annotation capability.
    Please DiiGo programmers, let the 5000 word barrier.

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Integrating ICT into the MFL classroom:: NextGen Teachers Skypecast - 0 views

  • NextGen Teachers Skypecast with fellow bloggers and Web 2.0 enthusiasts Doug Belshaw (host), Aaron Smith, Kristian Still, Ollie Bray, Leon Cych and Paul Harrington
  • summary of our conversation about how we as teachers are using new technologies to collaborate with each other and our students to enhance teaching and learning in the 21st century classroom.
  • Part 1: What collaborative tools are we using? wikis blogging and Flashmeeting learning with your students working from home via a wiki pooling expertise from practitioners unlocking web 2.0 tools using diigo
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    diigo education

    Dear Diigo and TrailFire peers,

    let's have a look, to our neighbour communities, how collaboration via wikis and annotation works.

    MayAllBeHappy

    -- fridemar

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Dr. Fridemar Pache

Top Web Annotation Tools: Annotate+Bookmark+Collaborate » MakeUseOf.com - 2 views

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    diigo trailfire alternatives
iplnts

NormalWindowsForSocialCollaborationByAnnotation - 83 views

Hi fridemar & Maggie! I looked after what fridemar offered. (It is a little exhaustive for me momentarily, although it may be a very good idea) But, i can confirm that the stícky window reall...

annotation diigo feature space windows

Graham Perrin

Private/Public Bookmarking - 204 views

> we get the system default for annotations set to "private" > and have to recheck it manually, each time > when we want to make a public annotation. Nowadays, it's the opposite. Not good for p...

group privacy tag suggestion

Maggie Tsai

Tags being clipped - 272 views

fridemar > > The author doesn't think, that the Diigo community is happy with such a state, which appears to him only as a bug feature of the diigo software and not a missing social ...

tagcloud

Joel Liu

embedded "-" characters in tags. - 56 views

The new version is available on www.diigo.com/tools

bug spam (electronic)

Dr. Fridemar Pache

Meatball Wiki: VirtualTwinPage - 0 views

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    Each wiki on the web, talking on VirtualTwinPage, tagging itself with "VirtualTwinPage" generates in fact a VirtualTwinPage, such that both pages are twins, i.e. each twin links to the other by a StrongLink link relation.


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jimicityblues

content idea - 7 views

hi, i hope this is the right place to post this---this is not technical but more about what diigo could be used for.... I had an idea for using diigo but when i shared with friends they were skep...

started by jimicityblues on 17 Jan 08 no follow-up yet
Dr. Fridemar Pache

How can we make a floating Diigo annotation - 30 views

Thank you Joel, if you can see the bubble, it worked. Thank you Fridemar joel wrote: > In the toolbar, there is a Sticky Note button, Click it, then you can make floating annotations. > If you...

diigo floating annotation

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