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    <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:18:54 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Patrick Durusau on ODF and interoperability</title>
      <link>http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00005.html</link>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Highlights and Sticky Notes:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;content&quot;&gt;Interoperability is one of the primary reasons why I like XML in general 
and ODF in particular.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tags:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/durusau&quot;&gt;durusau&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/interop&quot;&gt;interop&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/interop+myth+sources&quot;&gt;interop myth sources&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/odf&quot;&gt;odf&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Posted by:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/marbux&quot;&gt;marbux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:18:54 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>The Stockholm Syndrom at ISO | ODF Editor Says ODF Loses If OOXML Does | Slashdot</title>
      <link>http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=499412&amp;cid=22873820</link>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Highlights and Sticky Notes:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;content&quot;&gt;ISO is bound to the business of &quot;interoperability&quot;, and has very strict guidelines for interoperability requirements, that are themselves tied to international trade agreements and legal conventions.  In this context, it is beyond surprising that ISO allows the &quot;OASIS PAS&quot; and &quot;Ecma Fast Track&quot; channels to remain open, with specification work remaining under the controlling influence of the vendors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IMHO, the change in Patrick's position is entirely due to the realization that it is impossible to map between OOXML and ODF.  I don't know this for sure, but when i read the German Standards Group (DIN) report on harmonization, authorized by the EU-IDABC and provided to ISO, i couldn't help but wonder how Patrick would react.  The report definitively ends his OOXML  ODF mapping dream.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tags:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/durusau&quot;&gt;durusau&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/iso&quot;&gt;iso&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/microsoft&quot;&gt;microsoft&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/odf&quot;&gt;odf&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/ooxml&quot;&gt;ooxml&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/slashdot&quot;&gt;slashdot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/w3c&quot;&gt;w3c&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Posted by:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/garyedwards&quot;&gt;garyedwards&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:51:08 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>ODF Editor Says ODF Loses If OOXML Does | Slashdot</title>
      <link>http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=499412&amp;threshold=0&amp;commentsort=0&amp;mode=thread&amp;cid=22866866</link>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Highlights and Sticky Notes:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;content&quot;&gt;IMHO, the change in Patrick's position is entirely due to the realization that it is impossible to map between OOXML and ODF.  I don't know this for sure, but when i read the German Standards Group (DIN) report on harmonization, authorized by the EU-IDABC and provided to ISO, i couldn't help but wonder how Patrick would react.  The report definitively ends his OOXML  ODF mapping dream.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many wonder why mapping is impossible.  I had more than a few discussions with Patrick on this.  His point was that a schema is a schema.  As long as the syntax and semantics are fully documented, no problemo.  My point is that both ODF and OOXML are application specific; and, both are woefully lacking in &quot;semantic&quot; documentation.  Add to this problem that both ODF and OOXML lack an interoperability framework with any semblance of compliance teeth, and the whole mapping issue becomes an impossible solution.  Especially if interop is the goal.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tags:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/durusau&quot;&gt;durusau&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/iso&quot;&gt;iso&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/odf&quot;&gt;odf&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/ooxml&quot;&gt;ooxml&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Posted by:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/garyedwards&quot;&gt;garyedwards&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:29:21 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Word of recognition from an unexpected side: ODF editor Patrick Durusau  supports OOXML - ISO effort</title>
      <link>http://idippedut.dk/post/2008/02/Word-of-recognition-from-an-unexpected-side.aspx</link>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Highlights and Sticky Notes:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;content&quot;&gt;The OpenXML project has made a large amount of progress in terms of the openness of its evelopment. Objections that do not recognize that are focusing on what they want to see and not what is actually happening with OpenXML&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tags:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/brm&quot;&gt;brm&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/durusau&quot;&gt;durusau&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/iso&quot;&gt;iso&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/oasis&quot;&gt;oasis&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/odf&quot;&gt;odf&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/officeopenxml&quot;&gt;officeopenxml&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/ooxml&quot;&gt;ooxml&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/opendocument&quot;&gt;opendocument&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/tag/openxml&quot;&gt;openxml&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Posted by:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/opendocument/bookmark/garyedwards&quot;&gt;garyedwards&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:04:16 -0000</pubDate>
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