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Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:39:39 -0000

Hi there,

I would like to know how or if it is possible modify or remove the RSS logo/link after the linkroll feed? I would like to have this link, but I am looking to display it in a different position on the web page. Can anybody help?

Thanks in advance.
post by craigmack on 2008-04-14

Request | My Tools | My Feeds: list, categorize, tag, manage feeds

Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:58:05 -0000

Just a small suggestion:

With the POWERFUL tools on feeds and feed management that DIIGO has to offer, I suggest we flesh this out just a tad more...

Google reader really hit it off in the reviews and the subscribers with the 'shared' feeds option - mostly because people could choose the best of their feeds and republish them. Basically, they mark each article in the feed reader that they want to share, and a feed is set up just of those articles. Made a huge advance on other feed readers that way.

There are many reasons for this - but here is what i think the most compelling is - SPEED. people who like feeds (this is growing exponentially by the way) are people who are too busy to go website to website. Google Reader's function of marking articles and sharing articles from many feeds republished into one feed allows people to subscribe to others shared feed, and take the speed even farther. we dont have to search through all the sites because we have feeds, then we dont have to search through all the feeds because we can subscribe to shared feeds that include the best articles of our interest feed into one feed... enter DIIGO. Diigo can not only share the articles of a particular interest by tag rss - DIIGO folk can actually just clip the important clips of the articles. Its the fastest speed yet - the key points of the key articles of the key feeds of the topic of interest.

DIIGO has their own spin on this with what you already offer - rss feeds on groups, lists, and tags. It applies to this same excited niche of people who like to republish articles in a feed, but actually goes so many steps farther because our users actually comment on those articles with highlights and stickies. The RSS feed that comes from any given tag (or now lists and community) is extremely customized and only covers clips of the article - the bottom line of the article - which is yet another speed factor.

Ok, so what am i getting at???

I really think with all the feed ability DIIGO has could ride this wave because it is the same niche but no well designed competing products. I desperately need a MY FEEDS section!!! Somewhere where I can manage the feeds from my lists, groups, tags, etc. Rename them as news wires, offer them as publications for all those people out there looking for the bottom line of any given topic delivered directly to them. Once we can easily turn our feeds into publications on niches that focus on the bottom line that all busy people desperately need to get to, I think DIIGO could grow leaps and bounds. There you have firmly launched and expansion far beyond just bookmarking, slides, and research - but right into web design, marketing, and so much more.

Just my thoughts. :)

two other plugs ---- whats up with the invites for the beta? I am SALIVATING. 2. Whats up with the fact that the highlight button is all screwy now and i have to use the diigolet?

Thanks for listening. DIIGO ROCKS and i salute you pioneers!!!

-Suzannah
post by suzannah on 2007-10-08
thanks for this thoughtful piece. I think you are right on.

--- I desperately need a MY FEEDS section!!! Somewhere where I can manage the feeds from my lists, groups, tags, etc.

What do you like to do with "managing the feeds"?
post by wade on 2007-10-08
> What do you like to do with "managing the feeds"?

Hey Wade!! Thanks for acknowledging my post!

Some things I would want in a "My Feeds" Section:

1. The ability to have a section where I publicize my feeds. For example, I can have a tag that is Nonprofit Tools. I can have a tag that was "Newsletters". Therefore, anything I tagged both "Nonprofit Tools" and "Newletters" can as of right now be it's own feed. For each bookmark, I go through the process of bookmarking the site or article, highlighting important content, and commenting (sticky) on that highlight. This means that for each article I would be able to sift out the really important bottom line and apply my own expertise to the bottom line. As of right now, this comes into my feed reader as a really informative source, looking a lot like a newsletter about the best of Nonprofit Tools online.

I would love to have a section on my profile that showed all the feeds that I really wanted to highlight as a publication - like the example above. As of right now, all that information is in a notebook I am keeping for when I launch a site on this topic. On my site, I will have a subscription page of feeds that are really just bookmarks with a lot of highlighting and comments - but they look like a Commentary Newsletter.

2. We need to be able to rename a particular feed and add a description to it. Rather than just suzannah's bookmarks on nonprofit tools + newsletters, which is what the title would be at this point, I would be able to reburn the feed as "Suzannah's Nonprofit Tools Newsletters". This would REALLY be able to allow website designers and bloggers a new and profoundly useful tool in Diigo for republishing on their sites.

As of right now, I have to reburn every feed into Feeddemon to change the title and description.

3. ***** (this is really important) Also, we desperately need the ability to adjust feeds so that when a bookmark is "read", it doesnt automatically disappear from the feed. In order for me to publish any feed right now, all my bookmarks have to be "unread". This negates a lot of usefulness in feeds! (think i should write a post about this separately, I guess)

4. Under My Feeds, which of course would be public in most cases, I would be able to give a description of a feed, what kind of links are in it and what kind of commentary, and other users would be able to pick the best subscriptions for them. The best entry for a feed would include feed title, feed tags, feed description, and most importantly, a button leading to the new list feature, which would (as i already can but is underutilized) turn that feed into a slide list so that the potential users/subscribers could see what was in the feed.

These are just some thoughts...

-Suzannah
post by dailyrebellions on 2007-10-11
sorry..thats going to be my personal account and this my professional account...

anyway...

looks like i am not alone... i just found this post on the delicious blog... its compelling to me. its at:
http://blog.del.icio.us/blog/2007/03/rss_has_a_flavo.html

(FROM DELICIOUS)

Did you know that well over half of the requests seen by del.icio.us are for RSS feeds? That means that people cruising around our site in browsers are actually in the minority, when it comes down to raw traffic. Instead, our heaviest hitters include personalized home pages, desktop news aggregators, and even stranger things.

With that in mind, it makes sense to remember that small changes can have a big impact. Thus, given that our feeds have been doing a decent job this far, they haven't changed much from their austere beginnings.

Decent isn't great, though. So, as the team's semi-official (and published!) feed junkie, I've been working on some small improvements. I've been looking into how our feeds are used and how to better streamline and present our information in different contexts. These improvements include features like:

* including tag descriptions in feed titles and descriptions where available;
* offering the ability to save bookmarks straight from your feed reader;
* displaying an up-to-date count of saves, without making items appear new again in feed readers;
* building more useful feed content with links to people, tags, and more bookmark details;
* providing more metadata where it seems useful, or less where it appears redundant.

And, this is just the start. We're rolling these changes out gradually, on a per-user-agent basis, and we're planning for more. So, if you don't see any improvements in your favorite feed reader yet—or if the changes haven't quite hit their mark for you—be sure to contact us and let us know!
post by suzannah on 2007-10-11
I really like that you are using diigo's annotation features to produce newsletter-like feeds.

Have you checked out our lists and webslides features? It seems to offer much of what you want for publishing, such as title and description. please let me know if that works for you.
post by wade on 2007-10-17
I know I'm late to this discussion, but wanted to go on record as saying that I hope the new release includes PRIVATE RSS ADDRESSES (a la Google Calendar and many of the other online productivity apps.)

I don't think a user should have to make his/her bookmarks public in order to embed them into feed readers, Firefox, or widgets. Of course, being able to do so by tag, list, etc. would be most excellent, but even just a single straight feed of all saved bookmarks would be a big step in the right direction.
post by tomtullio on 2008-03-18
There are several ways to go about this.

You can keep your bookmarks private, but you can add them to a list or a group. You can then use the rss address of the list or the group to publish elsewhere.

You can do this even if the group is private . In the new release, a private list will also have a secret rss address.

Hope these solve your needs.
post by wade on 2008-03-19
This is not the case.

If a bookmark is private, and then it is placed in a list, it will not show up in the RSS feed. If it is converted to public, than it WILL show up in the RSS feed.

The only difference is that if a comment is marked private on a public bookmark, the private comment will appear in the RSS feed of a public bookmark residing on a private list. But, as Tom says above, the bookmarks must be public to show up on the private list's RSS feed - even with the new release.

Wade Ren wrote:
> There are several ways to go about this.
>
> You can keep your bookmarks private, but you can add them to a list or a group. You can then use the rss address of the list or the group to publish elsewhere.
>
> You can do this even if the group is private . In the new release, a private list will also have a secret rss address.
>
> Hope these solve your needs.
post by suzannah on 2008-03-28

RSS Feeds not working properly

Tue, 08 Jan 2008 05:35:43 -0000

feed |feeds |rss |rss-reader | post by info-hound on 2008-01-08

The RSS feature only seems to work on my main bookmark page. When I either create a list or just a filter on a tag the RSS feed is empty. Has anyone had this problem? Any solution to the problem?

Thanks
post by info-hound on 2008-01-08
It was fixed. Please check it.
post by joel on 2008-01-10
Thanks working great now.
joel wrote:
> It was fixed. Please check it.
post by info-hound on 2008-01-11

Suggestion: Bookmark=clip+label+alerts

Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:09:46 -0000

Bookmark=clip+label+alerts

Here:
I. clip=highlights texts or clip video×comments (sticky notes)

II. alerts=rss reader×calendar reminder×searching alerts(like google alerts)

III. label view=Group view+Tag view

Group view=Folders view=Economics（automatically related to the subGroups/subfolders）+Share（determine the sharing authority of members）。

tags is very important, both for bookmarking the website and organizing the personal files on his computer.

I can see no reason that tagclouds company solve only one task.

There are some suggestions for the "view pattern" of labels

1. Matrix Pattern for the Tag clouds,
I suggest that, besides the clouds itself, there are two choices line of tags,
first, the horizonal line (on the top) is same as that of temporary "tag
clouds", which interprete the "intersection" function of tags.

Second, another line, the verticle line (maybe lie beside the cloud) should be
considered, which will interprete the "union" function of tags.
Explicitly speaking, when you click the tags in the clouds, these tags
will first appear in the verticle line, and the showing files are
related to the "union" of these tags. i.e. this file maybe belong to
the first tags in the verticle line, and that file maybe belong to the
second tags in the verticle line.

And then, the horizonal line will show the tags which has the intersection with that "unions".
Once the user click the tags in the horizonal line, the "intersection"
function will be applied, just like what we do now.

II. Folders view of Tags, Once users name some tags as the "folders" or "groups", and
define their hierarchies structure, the user will be able to see that
recursive nested view. Yahoo bookmarks now has enable such function,
but they donnot understand that, "Folders" is just another view of
Tags, so the same named Folder and Tag are different in Yahoo
bookmark. But this is unnessary for our brain. And diigo realize folders view meanings shareing, but diigo donot realize groups have the
hierarchies structure. And Diigo also donot realize "groups" is just another view of labels, so
so the same named group and Tag are different in diigo.

Further, such hierarchies structure will satisfy the theory of psychology. That is,
once you tags a file with "2.1.1" (for example), then this file will be
automatically tagged with the upper tags in the hierarchies, such as
"2.1" and "2" . This is the ecnomical philosophy.
post by arithwsun on 2007-10-05
Thanks - These are interesting comments. Will discuss more here.

arithwsun wrote:
> Bookmark=clip+label+alerts
>
> Here:
> I. clip=highlights texts or clip video×comments (sticky notes)
>
> II. alerts=rss reader×calendar reminder×searching alerts(like google alerts)
>
> III. label view=Group view+Tag view
>
> Group view=Folders view=Economics（automatically related to the subGroups/subfolders）+Share（determine the sharing authority of members）。
>
> tags is very important, both for bookmarking the website and organizing the personal files on his computer.
>
> I can see no reason that tagclouds company solve only one task.
>
> There are some suggestions for the "view pattern" of labels
>
> 1. Matrix Pattern for the Tag clouds,
> I suggest that, besides the clouds itself, there are two choices line of tags,
> first, the horizonal line (on the top) is same as that of temporary "tag
> clouds", which interprete the "intersection" function of tags.
>
> Second, another line, the verticle line (maybe lie beside the cloud) should be
> considered, which will interprete the "union" function of tags.
> Explicitly speaking, when you click the tags in the clouds, these tags
> will first appear in the verticle line, and the showing files are
> related to the "union" of these tags. i.e. this file maybe belong to
> the first tags in the verticle line, and that file maybe belong to the
> second tags in the verticle line.
>
> And then, the horizonal line will show the tags which has the intersection with that "unions".
> Once the user click the tags in the horizonal line, the "intersection"
> function will be applied, just like what we do now.
>
>
> II. Folders view of Tags, Once users name some tags as the "folders" or "groups", and
> define their hierarchies structure, the user will be able to see that
> recursive nested view. Yahoo bookmarks now has enable such function,
> but they donnot understand that, "Folders" is just another view of
> Tags, so the same named Folder and Tag are different in Yahoo
> bookmark. But this is unnessary for our brain. And diigo realize folders view meanings shareing, but diigo donot realize groups have the
> hierarchies structure. And Diigo also donot realize "groups" is just another view of labels, so
> so the same named group and Tag are different in diigo.
>
>
> Further, such hierarchies structure will satisfy the theory of psychology. That is,
> once you tags a file with "2.1.1" (for example), then this file will be
> automatically tagged with the upper tags in the hierarchies, such as
> "2.1" and "2" . This is the ecnomical philosophy.
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-10-06