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Privacy issue on messages

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:20:55 -0000

message |privacy | post by tomlaigle on 2008-07-24

Hi,

I've just realised that all the messages I sent through the "send" button of Diigo are public, and I didn't find a way to turn them private.

Is there a way to do so ?
post by tomlaigle on 2008-07-24
You can visit your message page http://message.diigo.com/user/tomlaigle , open them in sent tab and change the privacy by clicking the lock icon.
post by joel on 2008-07-24
OK, Thanks for your quick answer...

but I have to do it one by one ?
Plus there is no way to define messages as private by default ?
...
Would be nice to have this possibility in the next version, cause it seems to me to be a serious flaw in the privacy management, specially in a pedagogical context...
post by tomlaigle on 2008-07-24
If you send a message and set it as private , it will be private next time you send message on other pages.
post by joel on 2008-07-24
... Ok, that's great :)

Thanks a lot
post by tomlaigle on 2008-07-25

Private highlight showing up on RSS feeds

Tue, 06 May 2008 05:13:25 -0000

bug |privacy |rss | post by aquadragon1984 on 2008-05-06

When I subscribe to my bookmarks via RSS, ALL the annotations on the public bookmarks show up in my reader--including the annotations I have marked private. Serious problem for me.

Any chance of this getting fixed soon?
post by aquadragon1984 on 2008-05-06
Fixed.
Thanks!
post by joel on 2008-05-06
Thank You!

Joel Liu wrote:
> Fixed.
> Thanks!
post by aquadragon1984 on 2008-05-22

Private bookmarks shared with del.icio.us become public there

Sun, 11 May 2008 21:01:33 -0000

del.icio.us |privacy | post by lucite on 2008-05-11

Post a private bookmark with diigo with 'share to del.icio.us' option activated.

It will show up as public (not "not shared" in del.icio.us).

Fixable?

Thx
post by lucite on 2008-05-11
I do have the same problem, please fix it !!

This seems to have been an issue not only in v.3.1.5.4 but also 3.1.5.1 and maybe before!
I just discovered it now!

I do use Flock v.1.1.3, Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2.

PS: I checked it, and the problem occures since 2nd May 2008!

lucite wrote:
> Post a private bookmark with diigo with 'share to del.icio.us' option activated.
>
> It will show up as public (not "not shared" in del.icio.us).
post by philipp_grunwald on 2008-05-14
v.3.1.5.5

After installing the version 3.1.5.5, the problem still remains.

* Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (32bit)
* Flock v.1.1.4
post by philipp_grunwald on 2008-05-18

Q: Highlighting and privacy?

Thu, 15 May 2008 10:56:49 -0000

I was using diigo purely as a bookmarker, but i've recently discovered how useful the highlighting is (in particular with regard to notes to access from a mobile).

However I'm wondering about the privacy settings. When I highlight something it says "private highlight by soulgrind r", but even if i'm not logged in, those highlights show up under the "expand" link on my user page. That seems confusing to me, as they aren't really private (though i guess it refers to actually seeing the highlights "in page". )

Also, I'd like the default setting of HIGHLIGHTS (as opposed to bookmarks) to be private. If I bookmark a page, and tag it, etc.. then I probably am happy for it to be public (or at least I have the option to choose).

If I highlight something then its often just a reminder, or a quick bit of temporary information for me (how it get to a place, how to beat a level in a game, etc..).
So, ideally, I'd like to be able to set the default privacy for Bookmarks (tagged), Quick Bookmarks, AND Highlights (no_tag).

If I decide to tag it later then I'll probably make it a pubic bookmark, and its probably worth sharing.. but if it's "no_tag" then its probably not worth sharing (at least not yet).

PS/ Glad all your guys in china are ok.
post by soulgrind on 2008-05-15

Request: Remembering Diigolet commenting privacy setting

Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:25:09 -0000

comments |diigolet |privacy |request | post by hagure on 2008-04-04

YA Diigolet feature request:

I'm big on publicly commenting my posts to add to the infocloud, but currently the default mode on the diigolet is set to private. It would be nice if this setting could be remembered so one doesn't have to change this every time (this could also be helpful if implemented in the "Bookmark Privacy" menu too, for people who post private bookmarks in bulk).

Also, I feel that it would be semantically more pleasing if the order of the "Existing Comments" & Comment Entry fields were switched (keeping the editing fields in one section). Is it just me?

I also saw this: http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/1557, and was wondering if bulk editing of comments is implemented in the current version of Diigo.

Thanks again. Despite the few quirks I've had with Diigo, the features, community and potential around the service has me convinced. I know ya'll got a lot of work on your hands and that the diigolet isn't priority #1, but nonetheless, I appreciate the work and quick replies put in by yall. I'm here to stay! ^___^

EDIT: I just realized that comments ≠ description. Looking forward to the next version of diigolet.
post by hagure on 2008-04-04
Hi Terry,
Thanks for your patience. Diigolet is one of our top priority to dos.
post by joel on 2008-04-04

Feature request - different privacy levels for lists

Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:02:26 -0000

contact |lists |privacy | post by denagrabinar on 2008-03-24

Hi,

Firstly, just want to say - fantastic product, and it's just getting better. So far, I've barely scratched the surface of what it can do, as I've only been using it for private bookmarking. But even there, it's way ahead, IMO.

I do have one question though. At the moment, it looks like I can either make the list private or public, but nothing in between. I'd really like to be able to make lists private/public at different levels, including:
- only me
- contact lists (this one would make a huge difference to me)
- groups
- all diigo users
- everyone

Is this something that's already possible, and I'm just missing it? If not, is it something you think you can/will include?

Many thanks,

Dena
post by denagrabinar on 2008-03-24
Hi Dena,
Thanks for your suggestion. You can send the secret web address which is below the title of a private list to others. All recipients can access your private list in this way.
It's an interesting idea to share lists with contact lists. We will give it more thoughts.
post by joel on 2008-03-25
Thanks Joel.

I was fooling around with lists last night, and discovered the same approach that you've suggested.

I did wonder, though - how private is a secret url? Might it be possible for someone to accidentally discover one of my private lists, without being invited? My partner mentioned search-bots (not something I know about), and I just thought I'd ask...

Cheers,

Dena

Joel Liu wrote:
> Hi Dena,
> Thanks for your suggestion. You can send the secret web address which is below the title of a private list to others. All recipients can access your private list in this way.
> It's an interesting idea to share lists with contact lists. We will give it more thoughts.
post by denagrabinar on 2008-03-25
Don't worry, robots from google or other search engines can only access your public list. However, if your recipients post the secret url to public place, such as a blog, others may see your list content by clicking the link from the blog.
post by joel on 2008-03-25
many thanks for this, Joel. looking forward to many happy hours of list-making to come :-)

Joel Liu wrote:
> Don't worry, robots from google or other search engines can only access your public list. However, if your recipients post the secret url to public place, such as a blog, others may see your list content by clicking the link from the blog.
post by denagrabinar on 2008-03-26

About link

Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:34:06 -0000

privacy | post by pgstreby on 2007-10-20

When you click the "About" link for a bookmark, you can see who else has viewed the site. If someone visits anonymously, their city is shown. This raises privacy issues, especially in my situation: I'm a librarian who wants to use Diigo on my library's website. To librarians, publicly revealing who has used a resource is a huge no-no. (A student might, for example, not want others to know that she has viewed the website "Bedwetting: How to Beat It Through Self-Hypnosis.")

In another topic (http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/1474), Maggie indicated that v.3 would contain greater privacy protection. Could you expand on this at all? Could the "about" and "shared by" links be turned off, especially by a group owner?

Thanks!
post by pgstreby on 2007-10-20
Thanks for bringing this our attention. Will remove the location.

In our next version profile setting will have various options to share with public, friends or none. However, what you are requesting will create a lot of complexity to offer everything with an Opt-Out. I will drop you a note to chat more.
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-10-23

Concern about privacy:Group owner can watch members mail address

Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:05:42 -0000

group |privacy | post by mahsaito on 2007-10-11

Hi, all!

I find group owner (not only owner? moderator too?) can watch all of members mail address.
I think it is not good for privacy concern.

How do you feel about it? > All users
post by mahsaito on 2007-10-11

Feature Request: Private Tag

Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:47:46 -0000

privacy |tags | post by atthemoney on 2007-08-29

Instead of having to toggling the private and public option, can you tell user to assign certain tags that will by default keep the bookmarks private?
post by atthemoney on 2007-08-29

Private/Public Bookmarking

Sat, 19 May 2007 06:00:36 -0000

group |privacy |tag | post by spiralfunk on 2007-05-19

I've requested some of this before...

I'm super happy how Diigo has evolved lately. But i would still like to voice my opinion about some issues...

1.Choosing between private and public bookmarking is still not fast enough, it feels silly to have a drop-down-menu as there are only two options namely private/public, it would be much faster to have the two options as buttons.

2. I use plenty of Firefox extensions and probably therefore my diigo pop-up window takes ages to load (1 second+). It takes me additionally 1 second before i get my pointer to focus on the tag-field.
But lo and behold, i then discovered QuickD (i didn't associate the name with bookmarking...how silly of me). Now, instead of using the diigo popup-bookmarking-window, i always use QuickD. It's just much faster to right away be able to tag your bookmarks in the so called "search box". There are a couple of issues with this though.

2.1 I'm not presented with Tag Suggestions, i get Search Suggestions! Therefore i propose to make it an option to get Tag Suggestions instead in the "search box". (I never use diigo's search box for searching since i don't know the keyboard shortcut for it, if it exists... I use ctrl+k for firefox' own search box...)

2.2 I cannot choose between private and public bookmarking with QuickD. Since there's a notable difference between what kind of links i want public and private, it would be quite intuitive if i could specify that all bookmarks tagged with specific work related tag should be kept private. Or perhaps all items that have a specific tag prefix could be kept private (i use 2read, 2research, 2do and other odd conventions).

Nowadays as we use the net, our leisure and work activities mix and therefore one cannot expect that all bookmarks on a given day be tagged either private or public. I will use both any given day. The difficulties in choosing between private and public has led to a situation where 15% of my bookmarks are only public...

2.3 It would be nice if i could specify tags that go directly to a Group too, like "collaboration" for the group "Collaboration". Another possibility, would be to use the Delicious prefix "for:" to send bookmarks to some group, i don't know how this should be handled when bookmarking simultaneously to delicious though...

2.4 All QuickD bookmarks will be marked unread, although i've read them.

BTW. The tagcloud for the forum should perhaps also be featured on the new topic page, so that one can see which tags are used the most.. "should i use 'group' or 'groups' " and so on.

Thanks for listening!
post by spiralfunk on 2007-05-19
Please comment below.

spiralfunk wrote:
> I've requested some of this before...
>
> I'm super happy how Diigo has evolved lately.

Glad you notice and enjoy it.

But i would still like to voice my opinion about some issues...
>
> 1.Choosing between private and public bookmarking is still not fast enough, it feels silly to have a drop-down-menu as there are only two options namely private/public, it would be much faster to have the two options as buttons.

The spacing a little bit tight there already. But nevertheless, see your point - will discuss here.

>
> 2. I use plenty of Firefox extensions and probably therefore my diigo pop-up window takes ages to load (1 second+). It takes me additionally 1 second before i get my pointer to focus on the tag-field.
> But lo and behold, i then discovered QuickD (i didn't associate the name with bookmarking...how silly of me). Now, instead of using the diigo popup-bookmarking-window, i always use QuickD. It's just much faster to right away be able to tag your bookmarks in the so called "search box". There are a couple of issues with this though.
>
> 2.1 I'm not presented with Tag Suggestions, i get Search Suggestions! Therefore i propose to make it an option to get Tag Suggestions instead in the "search box". (I never use diigo's search box for searching since i don't know the keyboard shortcut for it, if it exists... I use ctrl+k for firefox' own search box...)

Diigo search box (multi-category) is one feature that may not be apparent at first glance, but very useful once you know how to use it. For those who haven't tried, I'd recommend reading the instruction http://www.diigo.com/help/search/3 and give that a try.

Can you please elaborate more how you will envision a new "Tag Suggestion" icon / function will work in toolbar?

> 2.2 I cannot choose between private and public bookmarking with QuickD. Since there's a notable difference between what kind of links i want public and private, it would be quite intuitive if i could specify that all bookmarks tagged with specific work related tag should be kept private. Or perhaps all items that have a specific tag prefix could be kept private (i use 2read, 2research, 2do and other odd conventions).

I see. However, my first reaction is that is doing all these will really take lots of time saving vs. just using our Diigo bookmark popup window where you can achieve anything that you wish to accomplish without all these extra engineering effort? Before going back to our team for further discussion, we should assess is this a feature that's only going to be used by few users, or will be helpful to many to deserve the extra engineering effort.

Maybe you can open up a separate thread on this particular issue to engage in other users's attention & feedback - would be nice to get some sense how widely used is QuickD and how people feel about it.

>
> Nowadays as we use the net, our leisure and work activities mix and therefore one cannot expect that all bookmarks on a given day be tagged either private or public. I will use both any given day. The difficulties in choosing between private and public has led to a situation where 15% of my bookmarks are only public...

Understand :-)

>
> 2.3 It would be nice if i could specify tags that go directly to a Group too, like "collaboration" for the group "Collaboration". Another possibility, would be to use the Delicious prefix "for:" to send bookmarks to some group, i don't know how this should be handled when bookmarking simultaneously to delicious though...

Good point - will discuss here.

>
> 2.4 All QuickD bookmarks will be marked unread, although i've read them.

The idea behind QuickD is that often people use it to do rapid bookmarking, and come back to revisit them when they have time, thus, we make them default as unread. But now I see that some (like you) are using QuickD in a different way and marking them as unread probably not the best way to do it.

Please include this point in your new thread. Again, we want to gain a better understanding of how our users are using this feature to give us better assessment what changes are absolutely necessary, and what are nice to have but not mission-critical. thanks

>
>
> BTW. The tagcloud for the forum should perhaps also be featured on the new topic page, so that one can see which tags are used the most.. "should i use 'group' or 'groups' " and so on.
>
>
> Thanks for listening!

Many nice suggestions - thanks for taking the time to share with us!
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-05-21
> > 1.Choosing between private and public bookmarking is still not fast enough, it feels silly to have a drop-down-menu as there are only two options namely private/public, it would be much faster to have the two options as buttons.

Actually the option in the user preferences is flawed.

There is some confusion on default settings.
We have two sorts of defaults: system defaults and user defaults.
And we have defaults for bookmarks and defaults for annotations.

The system defaults are set to "private", contrary to TrailFire, where the system defaults are set to "public".

Wether checking or unchecking the option box, in both cases we get the system default for annotations set to "private" and have to recheck it manually, each time when we want to make a public annotation.

This is inconvenient for social minded peers, who want to use Diigo preferably for open social collaboration.

So my suggestion is:

If you stick to the principle "private first", setting the system defaults to "private",
make two option boxes for letting the user set the user defaults for bookmarks and
user defaults for annotations to "public",

If you prefer the principle "public first", as done at Trailfire, setting the system defaults to "public",
make two option boxes for letting the user set the user defaults for bookmarks and
user defaults for annotations to "private",

Of course, it would be even more practical for the programmers and perhaps for the users too, to make only one option box for bookmarks and annotations. The consequence would be: the user has only one decision to make: either they want to share their bookmarks and annotations with their peers in public or they don't want to share them with their peers, keeping them private.

We are speaking only on default values. Nothing keeps the user off to recheck the defaults box in the dialog-window, on a case to case basis, when they actually make their bookmark or their annotation.

MayAllBeHappy
Fridemar
post by fridemar on 2007-05-21
maggie_diigo wrote:

> > 1.Choosing between private and public bookmarking is still not fast enough, it feels silly to have a drop-down-menu as there are only two options namely private/public, it would be much faster to have the two options as buttons.
>
> The spacing a little bit tight there already. But nevertheless, see your point - will discuss here.

I do understand it's a matter of screen real estate among other things...

I don't know, perhaps it would be possible to hack the pop-up window to ones liking with Greasemonkey or Stylish scripts. Unfortunately i don't possess big hacking skills...

>
>
> > 2.1 I'm not presented with Tag Suggestions, i get Search Suggestions! Therefore i propose to make it an option to get Tag Suggestions instead in the "search box". (I never use diigo's search box for searching since i don't know the keyboard shortcut for it, if it exists... I use ctrl+k for firefox' own search box...)
>
> Diigo search box (multi-category) is one feature that may not be apparent at first glance, but very useful once you know how to use it. For those who haven't tried, I'd recommend reading the instruction http://www.diigo.com/help/search/3 and give that a try.
>

The multi-category search feature is handy indeed...

> Can you please elaborate more how you will envision a new "Tag Suggestion" icon / function will work in toolbar?
>

Sorry, with "tag suggestions" i just referred to the same kind of mechanism that is present in the diigo pop-up window, i.e. when the user starts typing in the tag field he will be presented with tags he has used before.

I think somebody suggested in another thread that it would be convenient to see what kinds of tags other people have used for the page, i wouldn't mind that, but it isn't crucial... I'm mainly concerned with remembering what kinds of tags i've used myself...

>
>
> > 2.2 I cannot choose between private and public bookmarking with QuickD. Since there's a notable difference between what kind of links i want public and private, it would be quite intuitive if i could specify that all bookmarks tagged with specific work related tag should be kept private. Or perhaps all items that have a specific tag prefix could be kept private (i use 2read, 2research, 2do and other odd conventions).
>
> I see. However, my first reaction is that is doing all these will really take lots of time saving vs. just using our Diigo bookmark popup window where you can achieve anything that you wish to accomplish without all these extra engineering effort? Before going back to our team for further discussion, we should assess is this a feature that's only going to be used by few users, or will be helpful to many to deserve the extra engineering effort.
>
> Maybe you can open up a separate thread on this particular issue to engage in other users's attention & feedback - would be nice to get some sense how widely used is QuickD and how people feel about it.
>

Will do (a new thread about QuickD)...

I guess my issue has to do with the fact that most of the time i only use the privacy selection-box and tag field feature of the pop-up window, everything else will be left untouched.

I chose Diigo as my bookmarking tool because it has the smartest functionality compared to others, that is only why i make such a huge issue of such a small thing...

> >
> > 2.3 It would be nice if i could specify tags that go directly to a Group too, like "collaboration" for the group "Collaboration". Another possibility, would be to use the Delicious prefix "for:" to send bookmarks to some group, i don't know how this should be handled when bookmarking simultaneously to delicious though...
>
> Good point - will discuss here.
>

Come to think of it, one needs to click three times to share a bookmark with a group, which is why i don't share much with groups...

As long as there isn't a big incentive to share with a group (e.g. if you don't know the people in it), the choice to share a bookmark with the group will be affected by smallish things...

I guess i've made my point clear already, and i'll stop for now... :-o :-)
post by spiralfunk on 2007-05-23

can't change sticky-note privacy - fault or feature

Sun, 08 Apr 2007 07:13:57 -0000

bug |privacy | post by eyalnow on 2007-04-08

The privacy level for a sticky-note appears as "private" and can't be changed, so anyone watching my highlights can't see my notes.

It IS possible to share a stick-note with a diigo group, which is a nice feature;
But I'd like to be able to let the whole world see them , regardless of being a diigo user or a member of a particular diigo group.
post by eyalnow on 2007-04-08
Please see http://www.diigo.com/help/stickynote/2
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-04-08
re: http://www.diigo.com/help/stickynote/2

it's a good idea to limit the display of IN-SITU sticky-notes.
however:
1. a PUBLIC sticky note should still be viewable on my diigo page, next to my highlights
2. as of now, it still not possible to add friends (I know you're working on it, and am waiting patiently... )

keep on the good work !

e.
post by eyalnow on 2007-04-09
Yes.
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-04-11