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Cached pages with annotations?

Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:03:25 -0000

annotation |annotations |cache | post by hilcoblok on 2008-09-29

I've been messing around with the cache function and noticed that while diigo DOES cache pages, it does NOT show the annotations and comments. It basically treats the cached page as a 'new' page.

Obviously, this defeats half the reason for having a cached version of a page. Is there any way that this can be fixed? I can't imagine it being too difficult, as the page is essentially identical, barring the URL...

fixing this would really make my day...
post by hilcoblok on 2008-09-29
Yes, I'm interested in such a feature as well. What I'd like is any way to share a page + all my annotations (highlighted sections) with someone else who does not use Diigo.
There is a website called Sharedcopy which has a similar function, you can see an example of how it works here: http://www.okfn.org.sharedcopy.com/wiki/f7e42dec6c6fc9217aa525868d9e18a9.html#shcp0
However the interface and other features are not as robust as Diigo, so it would be great to find a way to do this using Diigo.

Hilco Blok wrote:
> I've been messing around with the cache function and noticed that while diigo DOES cache pages, it does NOT show the annotations and comments. It basically treats the cached page as a 'new' page.
>
> Obviously, this defeats half the reason for having a cached version of a page. Is there any way that this can be fixed? I can't imagine it being too difficult, as the page is essentially identical, barring the URL...
>
> fixing this would really make my day...
post by amiigo on 2008-09-30
I agree that the way Shared Copy annotates the copied version of the page i s very nice. One nice thing about it is that they seem to be able to annotate pages that Diigo cannot. Some secured pages don't get captured and annotated by Diigo (I guess because the Diigo page grabber does not have access), but SharedCopy seems to work ok with the same sites. Maybe it pulls the page from the machines cache or something...not sure.

I would add a vote for annotated cached copies as well.

sean

Mike Chelen wrote:
> Yes, I'm interested in such a feature as well. What I'd like is any way to share a page + all my annotations (highlighted sections) with someone else who does not use Diigo.
> There is a website called Sharedcopy which has a similar function, you can see an example of how it works here: http://www.okfn.org.sharedcopy.com/wiki/f7e42dec6c6fc9217aa525868d9e18a9.html#shcp0
> However the interface and other features are not as robust as Diigo, so it would be great to find a way to do this using Diigo.
>
> Hilco Blok wrote:
>> I've been messing around with the cache function and noticed that while diigo DOES cache pages, it does NOT show the annotations and comments. It basically treats the cached page as a 'new' page.
>>
>> Obviously, this defeats half the reason for having a cached version of a page. Is there any way that this can be fixed? I can't imagine it being too difficult, as the page is essentially identical, barring the URL...
>>
>> fixing this would really make my day...
post by seanabrady on 2008-09-30
Hilco Blok wrote:
> I've been messing around with the cache function and noticed that while diigo DOES cache pages, it does NOT show the annotations and comments. It basically treats the cached page as a 'new' page.
>
> Obviously, this defeats half the reason for having a cached version of a page. Is there any way that this can be fixed? I can't imagine it being too difficult, as the page is essentially identical, barring the URL...
>
> fixing this would really make my day...

I'm confused. Doesn't Diigo already do this?

From your bookmarks page, you click on "Share" and then "Get Annotated Link…"

I'm new here, though; so maybe I'm missing something…
post by vertigo25 on 2008-10-02
You might be on to something. The link you get when you click annotated link is a www.diigo.com link.

However, this doesn't necessarily mean that the page itself is stored on the diigo server. Does anyone know whether this is the case?

I'd test it myself by uploading a file, annotating it, then deleting it, but I don't have the time to test right now.

Does anyone maybe have dead link in his list that he could try this on?

Andy Standfield wrote:
> Hilco Blok wrote:
>> I've been messing around with the cache function and noticed that while diigo DOES cache pages, it does NOT show the annotations and comments. It basically treats the cached page as a 'new' page.
>>
>> Obviously, this defeats half the reason for having a cached version of a page. Is there any way that this can be fixed? I can't imagine it being too difficult, as the page is essentially identical, barring the URL...
>>
>> fixing this would really make my day...
>
> I'm confused. Doesn't Diigo already do this?
>
> From your bookmarks page, you click on "Share" and then "Get Annotated Link…"
>
> I'm new here, though; so maybe I'm missing something…
post by hilcoblok on 2008-10-02

Is it possible to save a cache?

Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:11:31 -0000

bookmark |cache |local |save | post by bigoxygen on 2008-08-22

Is it possible to save a cache of your bookmark with diigo?
post by bigoxygen on 2008-08-22
Hi Mat,
The cache is automaically saved in your "My bookmark" page. Clicking "Cached" link in every bookmark item, you will see the cache page.
post by joel on 2008-08-24

Malfunction in caching?

Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:44:54 -0000

cache | post by suikadorobo on 2007-11-25

Diigo's page caching feature apparently hasn't been working at all since Nov 17 (those pages cached earlier than that day are all kept accessible, though). I wonder if this is occuring only to me.
post by suikadorobo on 2007-11-25
No - it's not malfunction..

We're currently doing cache server /database migration in the backend for the next version. Don't worry. all pages will be cached soon.
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-11-25
maggie_diigo wrote:
>Don't worry. all pages will be cached soon.

Any update on this - it's been over 1 month and it still doesn't seem like cache is working.

Thanks
post by lucite on 2008-01-06
This really is a serious problem. I have spent a long time looking at all the social BM'ing options, if everything were working, you have a very strong service.

But, everything does not work. One of the most important features, caching, has been broken for going on two months, with no indication of when it might be fixed. A full text search for "internet" across all member's bookmarks, unbelievably, returns zero results.

Why are you developing v3 beta when v2 is still in beta (but given the above it feels more like alpha). You are asking users to make a significant investment of their time by putting all their data on your site, but we as users must feel we can trust you with that data, or we won't bother. Allowing xml exports goes some way (but even this doesn't allow exporting the cached page). How many users are you turning away daily by breaking promises of certain features that they read about when signing up?

Your relatively low standing according to Alexa (which surprises me considering the features) amongst social BM'ing makes me worried about your future, all the more reason to allow proper export of data, to reduce my risk only to change over costs should you go bust, not data loss.

Should I continue to use your service? Are you a serious company?

Regards,
Fullness

Edit:
P.S. I just want to make it clear that I really, really want you to fix these problems. I wouldn't have bothered with such a long post if I didn't think you had a service with excellent potential.

lucite wrote:
> maggie_diigo wrote:
> >Don't worry. all pages will be cached soon.
>
> Any update on this - it's been over 1 month and it still doesn't seem like cache is working.
>
> Thanks
post by fullness on 2008-01-07
Hi fullness,
I am sorry some features in V2 is not stable enough, that's why we are developing V3 which is much stable than V2.
I checked my cache. It works fine on V3, but it doesn't work on V2. Don't worry, your data is safe. We will fix it soon. Please let me know if you want to try out the V3.
post by joel on 2008-01-10
^ That's awesome ! :)

You guys rock. When the problem happened I started looking around at what other services/sites offered and I have to say that every time I thought: Diigo is better. Your interface and your features are just better. And I'm saying this as a die-hard Google user for other types of services. If I stick with Diigo over the benefits that Notebook integration has for me, it's really that I think your service is THAT much better!

I'd love to try v3 to see what else you've got in store for us :)
post by lucite on 2008-01-10
joel,
> I checked my cache. It works fine on V3, but it doesn't work on V2. Don't worry, your data is safe. ...

No, it's NOT always safe. I have checked the cached pages of my own as well, and have found out that many of the pages I bookmarked during the late November through the early December were not cached as expected. Go to my page and try viewing the cache for
http://www.asahi.com/paper/editorial20071121.html
for example. It says "the requested page is no longer available", which clearly shows that THE SOURCE PAGE HAD EXPIRED BEFORE DIIGO RESTARTED CACHING. Sticky notes for such pages have nothing left to "stick" to; likewise, highlighted texts are nothing more than odrinary comments now that they aren't associated to any particular portions of the original document. Things will be nearly the same for those pages which were modified during the downtime.

I am not asking you to recover such info now, since I know it's too late for anyone to do that. I just want you to make clear when your system's caching feature went down and when it was recovered, and let all the users (including ones who haven't tried V3 yet) know that their bookmarks created within that period may have lost part of their info.
post by suikadorobo on 2008-01-11
Cache pages on www.diigo.com is back now.
post by joel on 2008-01-11
Suikadorobo:
I am sorry for what happened to you. Besides improving the stability, We will monitor cache feature as you suggest.
post by joel on 2008-01-11
I would like to try v3 in that case. But before you do it - do I lose any data? Is there an option to change to v3 somewhere, and some more information?

Thanks,
Fullness

joel wrote:
> Hi fullness,
> I am sorry some features in V2 is not stable enough, that's why we are developing V3 which is much stable than V2.
> I checked my cache. It works fine on V3, but it doesn't work on V2. Don't worry, your data is safe. We will fix it soon. Please let me know if you want to try out the V3.
post by fullness on 2008-01-11

Pages not being cached?!

Sun, 06 Jan 2008 20:21:41 -0000

bug |cache | post by lucite on 2008-01-06

Hi,

Upon clicking on the 'cached' link in my last few bookmarks, I get the following error:

Cache page didn't exist. Please Click the following link to visit original page.

Is caching not working?

Cheers
post by lucite on 2008-01-06
We are looking into it and will fix it soon.
Thanks.
post by joel on 2008-01-10
Sorry, the cache page works fine on the new V3, but it doesn't work on V2. A minor bug, your data is safe. I will make sure this bug solved soon.
post by joel on 2008-01-10

Cache not working?

Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:19:26 -0000

cache | post by afuturestrader on 2007-12-13

Hi

I am a new user and like the service. The issue I am having is that web pages being bookmarked are not being cached. I have tried many types of sites, including diigo

Is there some extra step I am missing to get a web page to cache?

Thanks in advance
post by afuturestrader on 2007-12-13
Hi,

I am a Diigo user for about one year now.
I use this site because of the cache service which till now I've only found here.
Unfortunately, I've realized 2 weeks ago that ALL my previous cache bookmarks have been LOST !!
What is the problem with this service? Will my previous bookmarks cache be restored ????

Yann

afuturestrader wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am a new user and like the service. The issue I am having is that web pages being bookmarked are not being cached. I have tried many types of sites, including diigo
>
> Is there some extra step I am missing to get a web page to cache?
>
> Thanks in advance
post by valeryan on 2007-12-13
Valeryan,

Actually we've been discussing this problem for not a few weeks, as you can see in http://group.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/1919 . As I mentioned there, those pages cached earlier than Nov 17 were all accessible at least a couple of weeks ago, but now they all seem to have been lost. (Some people may say there's nothing to worry about because Diigo will re-cache those pages after a while, but even if he/she is right, where will our highlighted texts and notes go in case the original pages are lost or modified before the caching feature comes back to work?)
post by suikadorobo on 2007-12-13
Yes, indeed that's my problem : I use this service to cache pages that change **Every** day ! All the information I've collected for **several months** is now completely lost unless it 's restored from diigo.
I'll consult the url you quoted to try to know what's diigo's position if by chance they have answered ...

suikadorobo wrote:
> Valeryan,
>
> Actually we've been discussing this problem for not a few weeks, as you can see in http://group.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/1919 . As I mentioned there, those pages cached earlier than Nov 17 were all accessible at least a couple of weeks ago, but now they all seem to have been lost. (Some people may say there's nothing to worry about because Diigo will re-cache those pages after a while, but even if he/she is right, where will our highlighted texts and notes go in case the original pages are lost or modified before the caching feature comes back to work?)
post by valeryan on 2007-12-14
I'm not alloawed to access this private preview and so to access to the forum:-(

valeryan wrote:
> Yes, indeed that's my problem : I use this service to cache pages that change **Every** day ! All the information I've collected for **several months** is now completely lost unless it 's restored from diigo.
> I'll consult the url you quoted to try to know what's diigo's position if by chance they have answered ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> suikadorobo wrote:
> > Valeryan,
> >
> > Actually we've been discussing this problem for not a few weeks, as you can see in http://group.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/1919 . As I mentioned there, those pages cached earlier than Nov 17 were all accessible at least a couple of weeks ago, but now they all seem to have been lost. (Some people may say there's nothing to worry about because Diigo will re-cache those pages after a while, but even if he/she is right, where will our highlighted texts and notes go in case the original pages are lost or modified before the caching feature comes back to work?)
post by valeryan on 2007-12-14
valeryan wrote:
> I'm not alloawed to access this private preview and so to access to the forum:-(

You mean you weren't allowed to see the topic of the forum I refered to above? Sounds strange (I believe it's just an ordinary, non-confidential topic, having nothing to do with the alpha); anyway I've just bookmarked the topic in problem and saved its conversation in the comment field, so go to my user page and see it if you need.
post by suikadorobo on 2007-12-14

Feature request: offline local page cache

Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:40:52 -0000

Hello, I just wanted to ask if there is a chance that one day, Diigo would not only maintain a copy of a full bookmarked page on their servers, but also store a local copy on my computer? I often bookmark some things and then when my notebook is offline, it would be really nice to read them or keep them for reference. What do you think?
post by jimjee on 2007-09-24
I guess, that this could be done with Google Gears (for Firefox and Internet Explorer). Remember The Milk and Google Reader offer similar functions.

jimjee wrote:
> Hello, I just wanted to ask if there is a chance that one day, Diigo would not only maintain a copy of a full bookmarked page on their servers, but also store a local copy on my computer? I often bookmark some things and then when my notebook is offline, it would be really nice to read them or keep them for reference. What do you think?
post by derlinzer on 2007-09-24
This can be an advanced feature later.
post by joel on 2007-09-27
Am i right, that local caching and perhaps synchronizing would speed up the Diigo experience a lot?
post by derlinzer on 2007-09-27
derlinzer wrote:
> I guess, that this could be done with Google Gears (for Firefox and Internet Explorer). Remember The Milk and Google Reader offer similar functions.

Another possibility is to provide a hook to some other Firefox / Explorer extension that already saves pages offline (e.g. Scrapbook for Firefox), and just synchronize the actions on Diigo with the local directory saved by the extension.
post by jimjee on 2007-09-27

Web Page Persistence

Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:30:57 -0000

cache |persistence |web-page | post by swampy on 2007-08-30

Hi,

When one bookmarks, highlights, and comments on a web page with Diigo, does the persist in Diigo even if the owner of the original page deletes it or otherwise makes it inaccessible? This is very important when capturing newspaper articles since many papers make their current daily online available to the general public but limit access to back issues. If Diigo does not capture the page, having an option to do so, even if it's on the local hard drive, would be very useful.
post by swampy on 2007-08-30
Hi swampy,

Yes, all these data you mentioned persist, i.e. they will still be available even if the original web page has been deleted and is now inaccessible. That is one of the big advantages/features of Diigo. This is also why you can perform whole-text searches in your Diigo archive, it is all saved in Diigo's cache/database.

See here:

http://www.diigo.com/help/bookmark/1
["Archive your bookmarked pages to insure they are always available as originally seen, i.e. never have to worry about link rot again (currently only html pages are archived)."]

http://www.diigo.com/help/learn_more/3/
["Your bookmarked pages are archived to insure they are always available as originally seen."]

Just note the few restrictions about non-html content.
post by ollitolli on 2007-09-03
I've found Diigo's cache to be lacking, unfortunately. My highlights are accessible, but when clicking on 'cached' Diigo often can't pull up a cached version of the page. I simultaneously bookmark to Furl mainly for this reason.

ollitolli wrote:
> Hi swampy,
>
> Yes, all these data you mentioned persist, i.e. they will still be available even if the original web page has been deleted and is now inaccessible. That is one of the big advantages/feat
ures of Diigo. This is also why you can perform whole-text searches in your Diigo archive, it is all saved in Diigo's cache/database.

>
> See here:
>
> http://www.diig
o.com/help/book
mark/1
> ["Archive your bookmarked pages to insure they are always available as originally seen, i.e. never have to worry about link rot again (currently only html pages are archived)."]
>
> http://www.diig
o.com/help/lear
n_more/3/
> ["Your bookmarked pages are archived to insure they are always available as originally seen."]
>
> Just note the few restrictions about non-html content.
post by davido on 2007-09-03
Hi davido,

yes, it's true that sometimes Diigo doesn't cache pages properly. I noticed that too but it happens rarely. By clicking the tag "cache" in the Diigo forum, you can find a couple of threads discussing this issue.
post by ollitolli on 2007-09-04

Unusual display of cached pages

Fri, 06 Apr 2007 01:55:06 -0000

bug |cache | post by ollitolli on 2007-04-06

I noticed that a few cached webpages look somewhat strange compared to their original version.

Here is an example:
1) Cached copy:
http://www.diigo.com/cached?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dreammailer.de
2) Original version:
http://www.dreammailer.de/

I guess this is due to the webpages and not Diigo's fault. Has anyone else noticed that, too?
post by ollitolli on 2007-04-06
Thanks for reporting. Will look into it.
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-04-06
>
> I guess this is due to the webpages and not Diigo's fault. Has anyone else >noticed that, too?
The cache page include the content, but not the format files, such as css files in the web page. Just like google cache page.
post by joel on 2007-04-08
joel wrote:
>
> I guess this is due to the webpages and not Diigo's fault. Has anyone else >noticed that, too?
The cache page include the content, but not the format files, such as css files in the web page. Just like google cache page.

OK, I see. Thanks for explaining that to me.
post by ollitolli on 2007-04-08
joel wrote:
>
> >
> > I guess this is due to the webpages and not Diigo's fault. Has anyone else >noticed that, too?
> The cache page include the content, but not the format files, such as css files in the web page. Just like google cache page.

perhaps, but really shouldnt these files be cached? or at least the CSS? what is the point of not caching the CSS? so that they'll look ugly? "Different"? Because anyway, since annotations are not available on the cached pages that the presentation of the page shouldnt matter anyway?
post by jeffreyjflim on 2007-07-15
Wow - i LOVE diigo...

but please improve caching for a realistic view.
Probably a "view pdf Version" would be nice :)

It's all about caching...

THX.
post by unterirdisch on 2007-08-29

Cached Pages - Inconsistency

Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:10:52 -0000

cache | post by woo1018 on 2007-04-26

What is up with the inconsistency of saving a full webpage? Some sites are cached while others are not. Does this have to do with max characters?

I love Diigo but am considering going back to Furl since I can capture a full page and then use a full text search for the whole page
post by woo1018 on 2007-04-26
I'm not a techie , but my understanding is that while most pages are cached, there are some various circumstances that cause some pages not cached, such as https (secured pages), internet connection / original page cannot be visited, etc. to cause some interruption, etc. In those incidences, we will try to grab them once again in the next batch cycle, but could still have some issue, etc...

If you or anyone know how to make caching 100% (which is pretty hard, from my understanding), please contact us - we'd love to have your assistance.

post by maggie_diigo on 2007-04-27
woo1018 wrote:
> What is up with the inconsistency of saving a full webpage? Some sites are cached while others are not. Does this have to do with max characters?
>
> I love Diigo but am considering going back to Furl since I can capture a full page and then use a full text search for the whole page

or how about this? My situation: I have a cached page. Or rather, I *HAD* a cached page. Used to be cached. Now not.

"Cache page didn't exist. Please Click the following link to visit original page." - I love that wonderful message. Diigo used to be functional and "ok" for me. What's happened to it now?
post by jeffreyjflim on 2007-07-15
> or how about this? My situation: I have a cached page. Or rather, I *HAD* a cached page. Used to be >cached. Now not.
> "Cache page didn't exist. Please Click the following link to visit original page." - I love that wonderful
> message. Diigo used to be functional and "ok" for me. What's happened to it now?

=====> Could you give us these URLs, so we can look into it and find what happened.
post by joel on 2007-07-16
woo1018 wrote:
> What is up with the inconsistency of saving a full webpage? Some sites are cached while others are not. >Does this have to do with max characters?
==========> Could you give us the URLs which didn't been cached? So we can
>
> I love Diigo but am considering going back to Furl since I can capture a full page and then use a full text >search for the whole page
===========>Diigo's fulltext search feature not only search the original pages(based on the cached pages), but also search the tag, comment, stickynotes. Besides Search box ===>More ==> Search mine by fulltext.

Thanks
post by joel on 2007-07-16
maggie_diigo wrote:
> I'm not a techie , but my understanding is that while most pages are cached, there are some various circumstances that cause some pages not cached, such as https (secured pages), Internet connection / original page cannot be visited, etc. to cause some interruption, etc. In those incidences, we will try to grab them once again in the next batch cycle, but could still have some issue, etc...
>
> If you or anyone know how to make caching 100% (which is pretty hard, from my understanding), please contact us - we'd love to have your assistance.
>

Let's face it, FURL continue to be much more functional to save personal copies of even any page on the web (even PDFs) than Diigo. That's what I'm still using it. And that's a pity because Diigo is a much better researching tool. I think that you people behind Diigo must understand that if you are demanded for better caching or anything else, it is because your product is better and we, the users, realize that things that other service can do very well must be implemented on Diigo, so we can make it the only tool we use to online research. (Consider the hassle for us to switch from one service to the other just to complete the same investigation).
post by skepticus on 2007-07-18
joel wrote:
> > or how about this? My situation: I have a cached page. Or rather, I *HAD* a cached page. Used to be >cached. Now not.
> > "Cache page didn't exist. Please Click the following link to visit original page." - I love that wonderful
> > message. Diigo used to be functional and "ok" for me. What's happened to it now?
>
> ===== > Could you give us these URLs, so we can look into it and find what happened.

I would be interested (as an actual, real life user of the service) to be given an honest (and technically accurate) answer here - it isnt the best of impressions when a service drops your data.. and then doesn't anything to pick up that error at all (shouldn't ur "error page generator" give u an alert? log something to somewhere?)

http://www.diigo.com/cached?url=http://www.codeproject.com/jscript/javascriptlinedrawing.asp
(*NOTE - I "de-htmlized" the '%nn' characters back to their actual characters ['%2F' = '/'] because apparently the "overflow" here seems to be set to "hidden" - if ur url is too long, u dont get to see the rest of it)
post by jeffreyjflim on 2007-07-18
We are investigating this problem very seriously. Thanks.
post by joel on 2007-07-19
I agree, and that's why my one big fear re diigo is that will go away one day, and my hard work will go with it. This is a serious issue, I think, for researchers and anyone else who seriously uses the service.

Anything on the horizon in the way of an 'export' feature that will capture bookmarks, highlights, comments, everything, and let me save to my hard drive?

jeffreyjflim wrote:
> I would be interested (as an actual, real life user of the service) to be given an honest (and technically accurate) answer here - it isnt the best of impressions when a service drops your data..
post by davido on 2007-07-22
my solution to this problem (and i've definitely noticed it too) is to use Simultaneous Bookmark to Furl (and any other service you like). It's insurance.

woo1018 wrote:
> What is up with the inconsistency of saving a full webpage? Some sites are cached while others are not. Does this have to do with max characters?
>
> I love Diigo but am considering going back to Furl since I can capture a full page and then use a full text search for the whole page
post by davido on 2007-07-22

Cache

Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:53:42 -0000

cache |discussion | post by maggie_diigo on 2007-04-11

~ Posted by John Knight

I LOVE the cache function.

However, it would be even better if the cache included the
highlight/note.

Also, a couple of pages didn't cache: is there ever a delay? will they
be cached eventually? If not, is there a way pages can be 're-cached'?

Thanks,
John
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-04-11
~ Posted by Catweazel

John Knight wrote:
> I LOVE the cache function.
>
> However, it would be even better if the cache included the
> highlight/note.

Which advantage would that have? I just tested whether comments and
notes are already included in full-text searches and they actually are.
So, that can't be the advantage.

> Also, a couple of pages didn't cache: is there ever a delay? will they
> be cached eventually? If not, is there a way pages can be 're-cached'?

Here are two relevant threads:

Thread "Full Text Search doesn't work":
http://forum.diigo.com/topic/350#1216

Core message: There may a delay sometimes but it should be short. In
most cases, the pages will be cached immediately (this is my
experience).

Thread "Can I update cached pages?":
http://forum.diigo.com/topic/194#630

Core message: If a page has already been cached, it cannot be re-cached.
The first version of a cached page will always stay the cached version.
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-04-11
~ Posted by John

The point of the cache is to preserve pages that might otherwise be
removed from the web.

If a page is removed from the web, the cached version and the notes are
separate entities. One cannot see them together as is normally the case.

Also, when I'm on a computer that doesn't have diigo installed, I again
want to be able to access the cached version with the notes overlaid.
Otherwise, again they are two separate entities.

So, what happens when a page isn't cached after several hours?
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-04-11
~ Posted by Catweazel

John Knight wrote:
> The point of the cache is to preserve pages that might otherwise be
> removed from the web.
>
> If a page is removed from the web, the cached version and the notes are
> separate entities. One cannot see them together as is normally the case.
>
> Also, when I'm on a computer that doesn't have diigo installed, I again
> want to be able to access the cached version with the notes overlaid.
> Otherwise, again they are two separate entities.

OK, now I can see your points.

> So, what happens when a page isn't cached after several hours?

Normally, caching shouldn't take that long. But I do not know the answer
to your question because I am just a Diigo user myself. Unless you have
put a lot of work into the page by higlighting sections and adding
comments/notes, you could try to delete that page from your personal
bookmark collection and add it again. Maybe that helps.
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-04-11
John,

Thanks for your input. Will consider offering that option. Meanwhile, try clicking on the "about" link for each bookmark - you will see lots of related stuff all nicely presented there.

Caching normally shouldn't take too long, but once in a while our servers get quite busy and some delay may occur. Also, once in a while, certain few pages have somewhat strange behaviors and are not being properly cached - we're looking into that as we're further optimizing our search capability now.
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-04-11
maggie_diigo wrote:
> John,
>
> Thanks for your input. Will consider offering that option. Meanwhile, try clicking on the "about" link for each bookmark - you will see lots of related stuff all nicely presented there.
>

Just to reiterate (and since this isn't the case yet...) annotations really *should* go with the cached page. Otherwise... what's the point of the cache? Is diigo a *cache*ing service??? or is diigo an annotation service?? neither here... nor there???
post by jeffreyjflim on 2007-07-15

HELP: bookmarking pages requiring a login

Tue, 01 May 2007 06:28:24 -0000

cache |discussion |login | post by lucite on 2007-05-01

Hi,

I tried to bookmark a page from the LA Times and when I return to it from my dashboard the cached version is the login page for latimes.com.

Here's the URL of the page I was trying to bookmark:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-webscout22apr22,1,3895718.story?track=rss&ctrack=3&cset=true

P.S. it would be nice to be able to search the forum by text string - I'm not sure what the advantage of your current foum format is as opposed to the traditional threaded type.
post by lucite on 2007-05-01
We're aware of this - it's on our to-do list to see if we can improve on the cache area and address this issue.

Search in forum - also on our to-do list.

We welcome and appreciate
our users' continuous help and inputs. We do listen :-) We're multi-tasking on lots of new feature development and are carefully balancing our priorities. Lots of goodies forthcoming. So stay tuned :-)
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-05-01

Search full text in cached pages

Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:07:50 -0000

cache |search | post by woo1018 on 2007-04-26

is there any way to search full text for the cached pages like in Furl? As of now, you can only search text for highlighted clips.
post by woo1018 on 2007-04-26
On our to-do list, but not a high priority.
post by maggie_diigo on 2007-04-27

Web pages not being cached

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:52:18 -0000

cache | post by ollitolli on 2007-04-17

Posted by John Knight on 16.04.2007 (in the old Diigo forum):
> I've just gone the through the last twenty bookmarks, from various
> sources: none of them has a cache.
post by ollitolli on 2007-04-17
John Knight wrote:
> I've just gone the through the last twenty bookmarks, from various
> sources: none of them has a cache.

Hi John,

I checked several of my bookmarks and I was able to find one bookmark
that showed the problem you described. It does not seem to be a problem
with all web pages. I am not sure which (sort of) web pages are
affected.

Could you list some of your web pages/bookmarks that have this problem (of course, only unless you would rather like to keep them private)?

Here is my example:
http://www.diigo.com/cached?url=http://chandler.osafoundation.org

The cache page says: "Cache page didn't exist. Please Click the
following link to visit original page.
http://chandler.osafoundation.org"

[...]

Catweazel
(ollitolli in the new forum)
post by ollitolli on 2007-04-17