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Five Ways to Mark Up the Web

Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:27:39 -0000

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review of Diigo, Fleck, shiftspace , stickis , trailfire,
posted by eyalnow

Highlights and Sticky Notes:

April 10th, 2007 at 10:34 pm

I use Diigo religiously! In my professional life, I train recruiters on how to use the internet to find hidden talent as well as conduct extensive online research on behalf of my employer. I tell EVERYONE that Diigo is THE product to use (bar none) and encourage any and all to try it for themselves.

I diigo! Do you diigo?

Phil97

April 10th, 2007 at 11:16 pm

I’ve spent a lot of time using Diigo. I’ve looked over the other services you mention, just in case there was something better out there. Day in and day out, I can work more quickly and easily. It’s so powerful I still haven’t scratched the surface. They seem to be making it better all the time, and they listen to their users. Diigo rocks the Web!

lela

April 11th, 2007 at 6:57 am

Diigo!
I am a diigo user.and through my using,i find diigo is very easy.This litter tool has made my study very conveniently .
I have introduced this tool to my classmates .Because this ,i want to be a diigo spreader.

The fundamental problems of annotation, regarding construction and usability - remain, even though the web infrastructure has opened up.

The memex concept of “trails” doesn’t seem to be captured by many of the current systems (except perhaps TrailFire and ShiftSpace? )

I think the wiki article on memex covers the differences: http://en.wikip....org/wiki/Memex

We could be wrong about that, perhaps Diigo or some evolved form of Google Notebook will be the One True Meta-web the market selects. But we should at least stop to consider what it means to have our online culture be privately controlled (or pseudo-publicly controlled; ICANN, etc.).

Search has led us astray. A better solution may well come from the way we filter information in real life (where we can’t search cause its not free, there’s no google for the real world). We start locally with things we trust and bring in sources local to those. I trust the NYT and my friends, and find new things to trust from there. When I want to find out something, THAT’s the set I want to search.

Stickis.com brings to YOU information from YOUR socially proximate and trusted sources. Wherever you browse the web, it tells you what your personally selected Crowd of friends, bloggers etc have said.

Blogrovr.com does this for blogs. Tell Rovr what blogs you like and wherever you browse on the web, rovr tells you what they’ve said about the page you’re on.

Wade Ren

April 11th, 2007 at 6:04 pm

Re: Meer on Diigo - “90% of those features (except annotation) are rarely used by a regular web surfer.

Indeed, web annotation itself is not for 90% of the users, and is likely to be adopted only by the minority of the web users who consume information diligently. After all, everyone knows that having a pen and a highlighter while you read is really helpful for digesting and retaining information — but how many actually do it?

For the minority of the users that do make use of web annotation, our user feedback tells us Diigo’s other features are quite appreciated. In addition, the Diigo plug-in is completely customizable, allowing users to only keep the features they want

For this reason, we are positioning JumpKnowledge as more of a personal annotation tool and not a social annotation tool. This allows us to focus JKN and make it easy as possible to use for non-technical creators and readers.

This has enabled search engines to index their pages and generate a fair amount of organic traffic.

Wade Ren

April 11th, 2007 at 11:54 am

Nick, Thanks for covering the web annotation area and mentioning Diigo here. Since the Techcrunch review last August, we have been developing lots of new features and we hope we can give you a demo soon.

As a sort of quick showcase of Diigo, click this link to see some annotations on this post http://srl.diigo.com/11xq — no plug-in is needed and you can be using any of the major browsers (firefox, ie, opera, safari) .

Stickis

Subscribe to only the annotations you want
Stickis is a web page annotation service that lets you subscribe to content “channels” from your friends and the community via a browser plugin.

the same functionality is in diigo's display annotations by group
posted by eyalnow

We’re looking forward to achieve a point where we not necessarily compete but can share resources and standards and work together to finally make this great potential for a metaweb to come true.

eyalnow

April 18th, 2007 at 9:02 am

I discovered Diigo two months ago, became an avid user and a self-proclaimed product evangelist, and recently started working for the company.

Diigo for me is the knowledge-management solution I was looking for.

What sets diigo apart is that it handles *Knowledge*, rather than mere links.

It is the ONLY solution that lets me *permanently* highlight and annotate specific text on a webpage, which is then saved to my diigo profile.

Diigo complements the mental process in which a sentence “jumps” at you, and you make a mental note about it. By highlighting the sections I deem important, I better understand and remember what I read. I believe there is scientific proof for this.

As time goes by, I’m building a repository of all the important Knowledge I find on the net, which I can easily manage, tag, retrieve and aggregate.

Regarding the ’social’ aspect:
Diigo provides me immediate personal benefits, and I can then share this knowledge with others of my choosing, and follow what other individuals or groups are finding on the net. Not just the pages(links) they are browsing, but the actual sections that they deem important, and their reactions to it.

I think that Diigo is not only for ‘researchers’.
Most of us conduct some sort of research whenever we read a news article, shop for an appliance, view photos or videos, or read a blogpost.

Although I appreciate the other services, and might occasionally use some of them, I find that Diigo already incorporates and combines MOST of their important features, in a way that is more robust and scalable.
Diigo specifically addresses the issue that was mentioned in the introduction of this tech-crunch comparison - mark up the web and make annotations on webpages.

I diigo! Do you diigo?

"I diigo! Do you diigo?" i want a T-shirt that says this on the back, along with the DIIGO logo and on the front? the Firefox fox logo, of course posted by amortal

I diigo! Do you diigo?

Tags: annotation diigo web2.0

Posted by: amortal

コンテンツ変化を考慮した時系列Web アノテーションシステム(application/pdf オブジェクト)

Mon, 03 Mar 2008 01:50:22 -0000

Tags: annotation annotea diigo

Posted by: mahsaito

Allowing minimal html in the forum text - feature,forum - Diigo Community | Diigo Group Forum

Thu, 17 May 2007 14:45:49 -0000

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Done. What means "Share my existing annotations on the page?"
posted by fridemar

Highlights and Sticky Notes:

here

By the way, sometimes it doesn't work. I made a "sticky" here, but got only a "highlight".
posted by fridemar
Now it works.
I think it is a good exercise to use more collaboration by annotation.

posted by fridemar
Agree posted by maggie_diigo

Tags: annotation diigo forum

Posted by: fridemar

Meatball Wiki: MarkUrl

Tue, 15 May 2007 14:12:50 -0000

Comments:

wiki annotation wikiannotation markurl fridemar asktrailfire

Dear Diigos, dear TrailFire peers,
Diigos can learn a lot from the Url-based design of FireTrail. This architecture promises to reach the level of the precursor annotation system of KaPingYee, where each WebPage can annotate each other. As a special case: Each annotation can be titled, referred to, googled, and be annotated by annother annotation. Congratulations to TrailFire for this architecture.

To both DiiGo and TrailFire programmers: please make the annotations like normal windows.
One click should make them fullsize windows, another click minimize them as appropriate.

MayAllBeHappy
Fridemar

This is a DiiGo+TrailFire annotation.

posted by fridemar

Tags: annotation asktrailfire fridemar markurl wiki wikiannotation

Posted by: fridemar

Meatball Wiki: MessageToHansWobbe

Mon, 14 May 2007 16:05:21 -0000

Tags: annotation wiki

Posted by: fridemar

YouTube - Highlight and Annotate Websites Using Diigo 1

Mon, 14 May 2007 16:05:21 -0000

Highlights and Sticky Notes:

Tags: annotation diigo video youtube

Posted by: fridemar

Meatball Wiki: WikiAnnotation

Sat, 12 May 2007 16:26:12 -0000

Highlights and Sticky Notes:

WikiAnnotation means annotation of WikiPages.

WikiAnnotation means annotation of > WikiPages > . >

Why is WikiAnnotation important for Online Communities? Isn't Wiki enough? Wikis allow inline annotations with normal wiki page editing? -- FridemarPache

Note: Don't confuse an AnnotationWiki with WikiAnnotation. An AnnotationWiki is a repository for annotations material, to be pasted into rich text/link annotation dialogues, whereas WikiAnnotation makes only wiki pages the targets of annotations. Of course an AnnotationWiki can be itself the target of some WikiAnnotation.

Discussion:

In this TrailFireTrail, we test the capabilities of DiiGo and TrailFire to
- annotate WikiPages (WikiAnnotation)
- annotate annotations (AnnotationAnnotation)
InteroperabilityOfDiiGoWithFireTrail would mean: it is possible to annotate
- DiiGo annotations with FireTrailAnnotations and
- FireTrailAnnotations with DiiGo annotations
It is easy to see, that DiiGo marked text (DiiGo highlighted text) can be marked by TrailFire.
The converse however doesn't appear to work yet .
To test this
(1) I took a DiiGoMarkedText in the WikiAnnotation page and copied it into the rich text TrailFireAnnotationDIalog.

(2) I DiiGoMarked [this text in brackets, but without the brackets] and looked at the result of the TrailFireAnnotation, after having edited it.

No wonder. Trailfire is so new, that DiiGo has not settled the problems.

posted by fridemar

Enlarge Space: If there are lots of people, who make annotations, the Wiki Pages will become unmanagable. By sourcing out the ThreadMode, the need for refactoring pages is reduced considerably

What happens, if there is already a highlighted text with a public annotation and annother peer will annotate it?
I see, there is a comment button for inserting additional comments. But only authors can edit their own text. posted by fridemar

it makes an ugly page overburdened with annotation markers:

DiiGo TrailFire programmers, please make a big toggle markers button!!

Dear DiiGo programmers, we need a simple button, to toggle on/off the DiiGo markers. Currently it is very cumbersome to sign off for eliminating the markers temporarily and then again to sign in. On the other hand the markers of TrailFire are much less obtrusive, but more difficult to find. posted by fridemar

{0 {1 {2 Hans, can you see the upper paragraphs on this page DiiGo marked in total. Currently I cannot get rid of the highlighted DiiGo text. -- fridemar } The text in curly braces, numbered 2, was copied into a FireTrailMark as temporary work text. When this page gets refactored, it can be deleted. In the meantime, it serves as an illustration, how useful TrailFire and DiiGo is for maintaining a WikiPage. The text in curly braces, numbered 1, is again copied into a FireTrailMark and a DiiGo annotation, so that later it can be deleted too, after it has served as an illustration. 1} -- fridemar dto. for block 0. Later after using the annotation tools, such collaboration interaction can be factored out straight from the start on. I hope to have demonstrated, how useful WikiAnnotation can be. 0}

{0 
  {1 
   {2 Hans, can you see the upper paragraphs on this page DiiGo marked in total. 
      Currently I cannot get rid of the highlighted DiiGo text. -- fridemar
   }
   The text in curly braces, numbered 2, was copied into a FireTrailMark as temporary work text. When this page gets 
   refactored, it can be deleted. In the meantime, it serves as an illustration, how useful TrailFire and DiiGo is for maintaining 
   a WikiPage. 
   The text in curly braces, numbered 1, is again copied into a FireTrailMark and a DiiGo annotation, so that later it
   can be deleted too, after it has 
   served as an illustration.
  1}
   -- fridemar  
  dto. for block 0.  Later after using the annotation tools, such collaboration interaction can be factored out straight 
  from the start on. I hope to have demonstrated, how useful WikiAnnotation can be. 
 0}

posted by fridemar

Tags: annotation wiki wikiannotation

Posted by: fridemar

Veille Perso » Blog Archive » Diigo mélange bookmarking et annotation

Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:46:06 -0000

Highlights and Sticky Notes:

Diigo vient de sortir en version publique, après plusieurs mois de bêta privée. Ce nouveau service est avant tout un outil de “social bookmarking” (tu bookmarkes et je surveille ce que tu fais). On y retrouve donc les fonctionnalités classique de ce type d’outil, avec quelques plus appréciables tels que la recherche fulltext ou la possibilité de republier les bookmarks stockés sur diigo sur d’autres services tels que Delicious ou Blinklist.
Mais ce qui fait la force de ce service c’est le système d’annotations : tu peux surligner et annoter différentes parties de la page, tout ceci étant ensuite stocké avec ton bookmark. C’est très pratique pour ce souvenir par exemple de ce qui t’avais intéressé dans une page donnée. De plus, grâce à la magie de l’Ajax, tu peux aussi voir toutes les annotations faites par la communauté lorsque tu arrives sur un site… Si ce que je te raconte n’est pas clair, il te suffit d’essayer par toi même pour comprendre la force du système.

Tags: annotation

Posted by: moviele

Best web-based annotation service? Go Vote Diigo!

Sun, 11 Feb 2007 01:47:15 -0000

Tags: annotation diigo online poll quimble service social webapps

Posted by: ycc2106