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Gary Edwards

Stephane is right on target. This is a must read for anyone trying to understand ISO approval of OOXML, and the sudden change of mind at Microsoft to support ODF!

Tags: iso odf ooxml on 06-25-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwardsand 1 member(s) first by: Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Stephane Rodriquez sums it up: Microsoft has won ... "Future of OOXML? There are two answers. Frankly, who freaking cares the paper? This paper will ALWAYS be at odds with the actual Office implementation. We have a good example for the time being, but it has always been the case. What about the actual file format then? It will be the subject of reverse engineering from implementers whose only recourse is to catch up all the undocumented stuff. Make no mistake though, now it's about applications, not documents anymore." "Conclusion : if you are still in the OOXML conspiracy game, about time to move on guys. "

Tags: iso odf ooxml on 06-25-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

This is nonsense. Whether an organizations standardizes on ODF or OOXML, the "interoperability" they seek will still be based on every desktop running the same application. Neither format enables the interchange of documents between different applications - even if those applications properly implement the format standard. Anyone can prove this for themselves. Simply shuttle a few OpenOffice ODF documents between Symphony, Novell Office and Google Docs. Then weep. At least with MSOffice-OOXMLyou can exchange documents between different versions of MSOffice. Even though OpenOffice, Symphony and Novell Office are based on the same code base, interop might as well be zero. Besides; what end users really want from a modern desktop office suite is collaborative editing of web ready documents. This discussion is so last century - 1995!

Tags: eu harmonization iso odf ooxml on 06-13-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Microsoft to support PDF, ODF 1.1 and ISO OOXML in MSOffice 14. The company will also join the OASIS ODF TC and working group for ISO PDF.

Tags: iso oasis odf ooxml pdf on 05-22-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Strange demands from Andy Updegrove: "I call on Ecma to withdraw OOXML from ISO and keep control of it themselves. We need it for legacy documents...." Why would anyone want Ecma to take back control of MSOffice-OOXML from ISO? The best circumstance would be for OASIS to turn OpenOffice-ODF over to the same ISO JTC-S1, where they can finally begin the difficult (if not impossible) harmonization process. Let me add on other thing; the place for ISO to begin harmonization is "presentation". We desperately need a standardized presentation model useful to MSOffice-OOXML, OpenOffice-ODF, XHTML and HTML. I suggest they start with CSS 3, and work back into ODF - OOXML. But that's just me :)

Tags: css iso odf ooxml xhtml on 05-20-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Rob Weir gets royally spanked. And so does the notion that ODF is somehow "interoperable". Big Time.

Tags: brown iso jtc-sc34 odf ooxml weir on 05-06-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Marbux at his best! Here he responds to Rob Weir's ODF v 1.2 arguments with a legal dissertation on International Standards, ISO, the WTO, and the key issue of interoperability and what it must mean. Excellent!

Tags: interop iso odf ooxml wto on 04-14-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Excellent legal argument by the legendary marbux concerning OOXML and ODF itneroperability. Covers ISO Interop Requirements and the demands of International Trade Agreements. Key to this thread is ODF v 1.2 and what must be done to bring ODF into legal compliance with International demands.

Tags: interop interoperability iso marbux odf ooxml opendocument-fellowship on 04-09-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Scott B comment on the OOXML OPS and GPL controversy. Great comments from Bruce Perens also.

Tags: gpl grey-matter iso microsoft ooxml ops on 04-08-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Scott B responds to Matusow blathering with a list of ISO changes that should be made given the OOXML fiasco, but won't.

Tags: iso jtc-1 ooxml open-standards on 04-08-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Perhaps the single best comment i've ever read concerning OOXML and the value of standards. Very concise and too the point. Thanks you Scott B!

Tags: iso matusow msoffice ooxml open-standards on 04-08-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Glyn Moody provides a summary of the destruction of ISO

Tags: approval corruption iso ooxml open-standards on 04-01-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Tags: approval iso mary-jo odf ooxml on 03-29-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Response to Yoon Kit's comments that Patrick Durusau is caught between a rock and hard place. His ISO JTC-1 group is now overwhelmed with MS OOXML supporters!

Tags: durusau iso microsoft odf ooxml slashdot w3c on 03-28-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

This commentary follows the Stockholm Syndrom post, which is itself in the thread based on Yoon Kit's Open Malaysia comments concerning the dilemma Patrick Durusau is in; the JTC-1 is now filled with Microsoft OOXML supporters!

Tags: iso odf ooxml w3c on 03-28-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Tags: approval iso microsoft msoffice odf ooxml sgml on 03-27-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

ge comments about Patrick Durusau and his surprising change of position in support of ISO approval of OOXML

Tags: durusau iso odf ooxml on 03-27-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Tags: foundation iso microsoft odf ooxml w3c on 03-22-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

Tags: iso microsoft msoffice odf ooxml xaml on 03-21-2008 -Cached -About Shared by:Gary Edwards

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Gary Edwards

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