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Weiye Loh

'Sexist trousers' spark Twitter row - Telegraph - 0 views

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    Madhouse, a nationwide chain of discount men's clothing stores, was branded "shameful" and "outrageous" by hundreds of Twitter users yesterday, because of the label's washing instructions to 'Give it to your woman'.
    The beige pair of chinos in question were purchased in London at Madhouse's flagship Oxford Street store last month.
    The incident shows the power of Twitter to embarrass companies which make such gaffes. Last year, Topman was forced to apologise and remove a range of t-shirts from shelves after Twitter users said they were sexist.
    One t-shirt said: "Nice new girlfriend - what breed is she?"
    Vanessa Truskey, a publicity executive, commenting on the Madhouse trouser label, tweeted: "Lately I can't tell which decade I'm living in. What brand are those trousers?! I can only assume that's a joke."
Weiye Loh

Epiphenom: In the West, religious nations are more sexist - 0 views

  • In these Westernised countries there's a strong, linear relationship between religion and sexism.
  • let's look at the correlation with a straightforward measure of whether women can be leaders, which was assessed by asking the level of agreement with two questions: “On the whole, men make better political leaders than women do” and “On the whole, men make better business executives than women do.”

    Overall, there's a fairly good correlation. But there is an exception, and that's Asian countries.  There are only a few Asian countries in the sample, so it's hard to draw sweeping conclusions. But they are all very sexist, whether their citizens are religious (Thailand, Taiwan) or non-religious (China, Hong Kong, Japan)
  • The more religious countries also have lower gender empowerment, meaning fewer seats for women in parliament, fewer women in economic decision making positions, and lower female share of income.

    Now, the reason for this, it seems to me, is that religion tends to be tied to 'traditional values'. What this analysis suggests is that these traditional values can persist in the absence of religion, but that getting rid of traditional religion seems to be a prerequisite for ditching sexism!
Weiye Loh

How sexists find love - Coupling: Dating, marriage and other relationships - Salon.com - 0 views

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    it not only confirms that there are sexist ideas behind pickup artist strategies -- as has often been the criticism -- but it also shows that sexist women are complicit. "Women are not just sexual gatekeepers," he says. "It's not like they're helpless, non-participants in this interaction. Instead, sexist women are essentially choosing sexist men." This is what's called "assortative mating" in social psychology -- basically, people tend to unconsciously filter out dissimilar individuals. "Even though they don't know that they're using these strategies for these reasons and even though these strategies aren't used because you're inherently trying to show your sexist attitudes, what it essentially does is help sexist people find each other," he says.
Weiye Loh

What Do Men Want? | marksimpson.com - 0 views

  • I read with interest this YouGov survey published this week which provides some confirming data on the fashionability of face fuzz and its accessorization by males today: ‘stubble’ is reportedly the most popular form of facial hair today – especially with 18-24 year olds (51% say they have facial hair and 80% of those describe it as ‘stubble’). Stubble of course being the most easily adopted and discarded form of facial hair.

    But the survey – called ‘Let’s Face It’ — is much less interesting for what it reports than for what it doesn’t. What it’s not facing. At all. The assumptions behind it and the way that compulsory heterosexuality is used to deprive all men of a voice, even about their own bodies.

  • The first assumption of course is that the date a male is looking for is necessarily with a woman.
  • The second, and closely-related assumption, is that men’s affinity for facial hair is naturally to be measured entirely in terms of what women want:
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  • The survey asks men whether they have facial  — and chest — hair, and what kind. (And a third assumption is that women don’t have facial hair….) But only asks women the questions: ‘Do you prefer the appearance of a man with or without a beard?’, and ‘Do you prefer the appearance of a man with or without chest hair?’
  • Men are objects here, and not in a good way. They are not allowed subjective feelings about facial or chest hair, their own or anyone else’s. They merely have it or they don’t. What they might want is of no interest. Women are the only ones allowed to want.
  • I don’t mention this to score gayist points and invoke ‘homophobia’. Or to diss the importance of women to most men. I mention it to illustrate how (hetero)sexist assumptions are used to shut men up. All of them. And maintain the reassuring pretense that even in a world where young men have become brazenly narcissistic and ‘passive’ – desiring to be desired – and where women are now allowed and indeed encouraged to have active preferences about men’s physical appearance, that it’s still all about good old heterosexuality.
Weiye Loh

Balderdash: Modes of Feminist Rhetoric - 0 views

  • I don't see why AWARE should prioritize minor forms of discrimination against men when the vast majority of gender discrimination is not directed at men.
  • B: ah, but what "use" do single men have for girls anyway?
  • B: Presumably the same 'use' single women have for boys...
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  • the whole "what about the poor, oppressed men" argument is anti-women. Yes, rape by women does happen and yes men can get raped, but are these really as serious problems in society than women being sexually assaulted? No.
  • Ladies nights do not objectify men like that cups promotion. Also Ladies Nights are not examples of misandry. This is like claiming that affirmative action is anti-white racism.
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    More sexism you won't see AWARE protesting: single men cannot adopt girls

    Text of Adoption of Children Act: Restrictions on making adoption orders.

    "An adoption order shall not be made in any case where the sole applicant is a male and the infant in respect of whom the application is made is a female unless the court is satisfied that there are special circumstances which justify as an exceptional measure the making of an adoption order."
Weiye Loh

About Mythbusters, Robot Eyes, Feminism, and Jokes - Skepchick - 0 views

  • There is a small chance that this man meant nothing sexual in his comment, despite the fact that I had clearly indicated my wish to go to bed (alone) and the fact that the bar had coffee and therefore there was absolutely zero reason to go to anyone’s hotel room to have it. Sure. There’s a chance.

    But regardless, the point I was making was that people need to be aware of how their comments might make someone feel extraordinarily uncomfortable and even feel as though they are in danger. This person failed to recognize that even though I had been speaking about little else all day long.

  • Certainly it made you uncomfortable: as I said, it’s a bad way to approach someone (especially a lone person on an elevator). I wasn’t there and so didn’t see body language etc, but I was just noting it’s very difficult to say he meant more than wanting to talk one-on-one to an interesting and important person in the skeptical world. You’re assuming he wanted to hit on you or was propositioning you (and that might in fact be a reasonable assumption), but an assumption is still an assumption. Perhaps he’d do the same awkward approach with PZ? Dunno.

    I’m not defending him, just muddying the water as to motives.

Weiye Loh

Richard Dawkins and male privilege | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine - 0 views

  • a woman, being alone on that elevator with that man was a potential threat, and a serious one. You may not be able to just press a button and walk away — perhaps he has a knife, or a gun, or will simply overpower you. When there’s no way to know, you err on the side of safety. And what makes this worse is that most men don’t understand this, so women are constantly put into situations ranging from uncomfortable to downright scary.
  • Put even more simply: this wasn’t a guy chewing gum at her. This was a potential sexual assault.

    So you may not think anything bad happened to Rebecca on that elevator, but something bad did indeed happen. He didn’t have to physically assault her for the situation to be bad. The atmosphere in there was enough to make it bad. And Rebecca was absolutely right to talk about it and raise awareness of it.

  • we all need to make sure that all men understand the woman’s point of view, or else this type of thing will continue to happen… and people will continue to dismiss it as no big deal.

    It is a big deal. If Dawkins — a leader in the critical thinking movement and a man known for defending women against religious oppression — can take such a dismissive stance, it’s clear that we have a long way to go. I don’t know if it was sexism on Dawkins’ part or just plain obtuseness, but this attitude is shared by far too many men. It trivializes the justifiable fear women have to live with as well as their point of view, and that’s just plain wrong.

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  • You’ve taken a one-sided report of an incident where the woman in question freely admits that the man ASKED her if she wanted to accompany him to her hotel room and effectively joined in the chorus screaming ‘PERVERT!’ – the possibility that the man in question might have a different view of events has gone completely unnoticed.
  • I’m a woman and I think it was a bit of an overreaction. Yes, women generally have more to fear than men do, but being alone with any man doesn’t make him a threat. There are things that a man can do to end up being a threat, but a few words are not it.
    It’s perfectly ok to feel threatened for one reason or another, but it seems paranoid to assume that any man alone in an elevator is a threat.
  • At this point you are basically advocating total segregation of men and women.

    Men are not allowed to make even the slightest advance towards women. We’re supposed to deny our own sexuality while telling women to go off and celebrate theirs. Male sexuality is a dirty thing to be kept hidden away.

  • It started with a fairly straightforward story about a clueless man putting a woman in an uncomfortable situation. The conversation about it was interesting, to say the least. An important point that came up multiple times is that many men do not truly understand what women go through in such situations.
  • Here’s what happened, boiled down from a video post Skepchick Rebecca Watson made about this (she tells this story starting at 4m30s into the video at that link). Rebecca was a speaker at a conference recently. After her talk and a late evening of socializing with attendees at the bar, she got on an elevator to go to her room. She found herself alone on the elevator with a man presumably also an attendee. He said he "found her very interesting", and would she like to get some coffee in his hotel room? Rebecca turned him down, and in her video talks about how uncomfortable that made her feel.

    If the story ended here there would be obvious things to say about it (obvious to me, at least, but not everyone, as will become quite clear). This man may have had nothing but noble intentions, but that doesn’t matter. Being alone in an elevator with a man late at night is uncomfortable for any woman, even if the man is silent. But when he hits on her? There’s no way to avoid a predatory vibe here, and that’s unacceptable. A situation like this can lead to sexual assault

Weiye Loh

Money for nothing and the dicks for free « Quiet Riot Girl - 0 views

  • “Here at Candy Rain, we have a simple policy” one of the party’s organizers yelled into the mic at one point. “Show us your dick or get the fuck out!!!”
  • How would I feel if some guy yelled “show us your tits or get the fuck out”? Not very good, I reckon. In objectifying men like this, one might argue Candy Rain apes the worst aspects of the patriarchy. Shouldn’t feminism be working towards a world in which nobody gets objectified?
  • despite the fact that they were showing their bodies off for our (adult) entertaiment that night, men still have all the power. So even if they were being objectified in an uncomfortable way for a few hours, it said nothing about the underlying system in place. It’s simply not the same. It’s like that medieval holiday where the masters served the servants; it was hilarious because it was so unusual, and everything went back to the way it had been shortly thereafter’
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  • Men’s objectification of themselves and their metrosexual self-love seems too much for some women to bear. So they pretend it doesn’t exist. And make up a load of shit about men and women in the process.

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    Where men looking at women is seen as riddled with power relations, but women looking at men is liberating. As for men looking at each other or themselves? That is not mentioned.
Weiye Loh

'Obedient Wives' Club: Malaysia Group Says Good Sex Is A Duty - 0 views

  • "Islam compels us to be obedient to our husband. Whatever he says, I must follow. It is a sin if I don't obey and make him happy," said Ummu
  • The club, founded by a fringe Islamic group known as Global Ikhwan, has been dismissed by politicians and activists as a throwback to Medieval times and an insult to modern women of Malaysia. But the group's activities, which previously included the setting up of a Polygamy Club, show that pockets of conservative Islamic ideas still thrive in Malaysia.
  • "Unfortunately even today, there are still many Muslim women who are ignorant of their rights or culturally inhibited to exercise their rights in full," said Shahrizat Abdul Jalil, a female Muslim minister in charge of family policy.
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  • Despite the group's conservative Islamic background, Rohayah Mohamad, one of the founders of the club, openly talks about the virtues of marital sex even though most of her colleagues are shy about the topic.

    "Sex is a taboo in Asian society. We have ignored it in our marriages but it's all down to sex. A good wife is a good sex worker to her husband. What is wrong with being a whore ... to your husband?" she said.

  • wives must go beyond the traditional roles as good cooks or good mothers and learn to "obey, serve and entertain" their husbands to prevent them from straying or misbehaving.
  • Global Ikhwan group is an offshoot of former members of the Al-Arqam sect outlawed in 1994 after its teachings were found to have deviated from Islam. It is funded by the group's restaurants, grocery stores, poultry and other businesses abroad.
  • Expectedly, the club has faced intense criticism.

    Some Malaysians started a Facebook page called "We do not want sexist nonsense from Global Ikhwan."

    One Muslim man, Amirul Aftar, wrote: "I do not want a wife to submit to my every beck and call. I want a wife who understands me ... we are not your masters, we are your equal."

    Women's group, Sisters in Islam, said Islam advocates marriages based on mutual cooperation and respect. It said domestic violence happens regardless of women's behavior.

    "Communication, not submission, is vital to sustain any healthy relationship," it said.

Weiye Loh

A Test for Sexist Remarks | Stop Sexist Remarks - 0 views

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    here are a few proposed questions to test whether a remark is sexist: 

    Is the remark designed to make women (but not men) uncomfortable?  
    Does the remark limit women's (but not men's) freedom of expression or behavior?  
    Is the remark likely to make those who hear it take women less than seriously because of their gender?  
    Could the remark also be applied to men and make sense?  
    Does the remark make generalizations about individuals based on gender?  
Weiye Loh

A Game Of Three Halves « Guardian Watch - 0 views

  • http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jan/26/deborah-orr-andy-gray-sky-sports-sexism

    I have lost count of how many articles I have seen in The Guardian about the sacking of Sky’s Andy Gray. They have all been similar and all have taken the stance that the decision was a good one by the Media Moguls, and a sign that sexism in the workplace, and even in football itself, is being challenged.

  • Deborah Orr positions herself as ‘the voice of reason’ in amongst the madness. She makes valid points about the context of Sky within the Murdoch Empire and in relation to the NOTW phone-tapping scandal. But she also uses the story to make some old, tired, middle-class feminist strikes against pornography and the sex industry.
  • Andy Gray’s sexist behaviour didn’t occur in a ‘vacuum’ writes Orr. And she contextualises his behaviour in the culture of ‘lads mags’, ‘objectification of women’ and the ‘macho’ environment he grew up in, that of industrial Glasgow.
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  • she is saying that one reason Gray has been able to make sexist comments about women in football is that our culture is full of objectified images of women, images which are ‘unsuitable’ for family viewing and should be kept to the ‘top shelf’ and pornography.
  • Apart from the fact that in football it is the men players who are the most objectified, and their bodies are sold to us as buff, oiled, Sporno products that rather overshadow the tits on Page 3, Orr’s points are judgemental about women.
  • Orr suggests that the decisions made by women such as Jackson to do glamour modelling, is partly what causes the conditions in which men such as Gray make ‘misogynist’ comments. I think feminists might term this ‘victim blaming’. I would term it ‘puritanism’ and ‘middle class judgemental feminist reasoning’.
  • behind Orr’s good mannered, reasonable argument, I think there is a more ‘troubling’ position, that does not seem to care for men, or women that much. Well, not men and women who are different from her, anyway.

  • This story of Andy Gray’s sacking has been presented as ‘a game of two halves’- men versus women, sexism versus decency, misogyny versus feminism. But I think there is a third party involved in this issue, and I think we need to call some extra time to understand it. Sexism in football, and comments made amongst men, are often more to do with their own sense of their masculinity than to do with women. And an issue that is just as significant in football, if not more than sexism, is homophobia, or at least homo-anxiety. There are no out gay or bisexual professional footballers that I know of. When men say they want to ‘smash it’ they might be doing so to underline the fact they don’t want to be ‘smashed’ themselves. And with all those buff, sweaty, young male bodies around, there is a chance you might think they do. I would.

    It’s a game of three halves.

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    Sexism in football, and comments made amongst men, are often more to do with their own sense of their masculinity than to do with women.
Weiye Loh

Vatican makes attempted ordination of women a grave crime | World news | guardian.co.uk - 0 views

  • The Vatican today made the "attempted ordination" of women one of the gravest crimes under church law, putting it in the same category as clerical sex abuse of minors, heresy and
    schism
    schism.
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      The amount of sexism within the Vatican, and the Catholic churches, is so high I sometimes wonder why female Catholics willingly be one? The promise of a good afterlife to compensate an inferior, subordinated present one? 
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    Vatican makes attempted ordination of women a grave crime.
    Revised Catholic rules put female ordination in same category of crime under church law as clerical sex abuse of minors.
    John Hooper in Rome
    guardian.co.uk, Thursday 15 July 2010 14.58 BST
Weiye Loh

How the sex bias prevails - 0 views

  • Heilman also determined that four in five volunteers preferred to have James as their boss. Andrea seemed less likeable merely because she was a woman who happened to be a leader.
  • Joan Roughgarden and Ben Barres are biologists at Stanford University. Both are researchers at one of the premier academic institutions in the country; both are tenured professors. Both are transgendered people.
  • Ben Barres did not transition to being a man until he was 50. For much of her early life, Barbara Barres was oblivious to questions of sexism.
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  • During a particularly difficult maths seminar at MIT, a professor handed out a quiz with five problems.
  • when the professor handed back the exams, he made this announcement that there were five problems but no one had solved the fifth problem
  • Ben recalled. "I got an A. I went to the professor and I said, 'I solved it.' He looked at me and he had a look of disdain in his eyes, and he said, 'You must have had your boyfriend solve it.'
  • But things changed in large and subtle ways after Barbara became Ben.
  • Ben once gave a presentation at the prestigious Whitehead Institute in Cambridge, Massachusetts. A friend relayed a comment made by someone in the audience who didn't know Ben Barres and Barbara Barres were the same person: "Ben Barres gave a great seminar today, but, then, his work is much better than his sister's."
  • When former Harvard president Larry Summers (who went on to become a senior economic adviser to President Barack Obama) set off a firestorm a few years ago after musing about whether there were fewer women professors in the top ranks of science because of innate differences between men and women, Ben wrote an anguished essay in the journal Nature. He asked whether innate differences or subtle biases - from grade school to graduate school - explained the large disparities between men and women in the highest reaches of science.
  • "When it comes to bias, it seems that the desire to believe in a meritocracy is so powerful that until a person has experienced sufficient career-harming bias themselves they simply do not believe it exists … By far, the main difference that I have noticed is that people who don't know I am transgendered treat me with much more respect: I can even complete a whole sentence without being interrupted by a man."
  • Joan Roughgarden came to Stanford in 1972, more than a quarter century before she made her male-to-female transition in 1998.
  • Roughgarden told me in an interview. "The career track is set up for young men. You are assumed to be competent unless revealed otherwise. You can speak, and people will pause and people will listen. You can enunciate in definitive terms and get away with it. You are taken as a player. You can use male diction, male tones of voice. … You can assert. You have the authority to frame issues."
  • Roughgarden made her transition to Joan relatively late in life.
  • very soon Joan started to feel that people were taking her ideas less seriously.
  • in contrast to the response to her earlier theory about tide pools and marine animals, few scientists engaged with her. At a workshop at Loyola University, a scientist "lost it" and started screaming at her for being irresponsible. "I had never had experiences of anyone trying to coerce me in this physically intimidating way," she said, as she compared the reactions to her work before and after she became a woman. "You really think this guy is really going to come over and hit you."
  • At a meeting of the Ecological Society of America in Minneapolis, Joan said, a prominent expert jumped up on the stage after her talk and started shouting at her. Once every month or two, she said, ''I will have some man shout at me, try to physically coerce me into stopping …When I was doing the marine ecology work, they did not try to physically intimidate me and say, 'You have not read all the literature.'

    "They would not assume they were smarter. The current crop of objectors assumes they are smarter."

  • Joan is willing to acknowledge her theory might be wrong; that, after all, is the nature of science. But what she wants is to be proven wrong, rather than dismissed. Making bold and counter-intuitive assertions is precisely the way science progresses. Many bold ideas are wrong, but if there isn't a regular supply of them and if they are not debated seriously, there is no progress. After her transition, Joan said she no longer feels she has "the right to be wrong".
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    How the sex bias prevails
    SHANKAR VEDANTAM
    May 15, 2010
Weiye Loh

Booth Babe Confessions - Booth babe confessions - Gizmodo - 0 views

  • Here's your job: Stand for ten hours in a noisy convention center. (You might want to wear something revealing.) Try to get the attention of thousands of men—and a few women—who rush by. And don't forget to smile.
  • Many of these intelligent, charming women had a sense of reluctance when it came to taking members of the press seriously. Often we heard girls talk of men who don't understand that a "press badge isn't an excuse" to fondle them as one might touch "everything shiny and pretty" in the booths.
  • A booth babe's job is to lure convention attendees into her booths, to do a product demonstration or to pass people off to a coworker. That's fine. But when misunderstandings occur—or attendees forget they're interacting with living, breathing human beings—some attendees turn into jerks, pressing intimidatingly close and crossing boundaries.

    Some slip these girls their hotel keys, pressuring them for a visit later in the day. Others mistake professional flirting for actual flirting and try pick-up lines.

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  • We've shown off pictures of booth babes plenty and even encouraged ogling them. Others in the tech industry, such as game developer EA, have promoted this mentality to the point of offering a bounty to anyone harassing their booth babes with photo evidence. The point is that these girls are being paid to be pretty and cordial—and we aren't ashamed to enjoy checking them out and laughing with them.

    But there wasn't a single woman we spoke to that didn't have at least one icky experience. Let their confessions serve as a warning to you: don't be a creep.

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