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SOCIALIST UNITY » ANTI-SEMITISM IS A REAL PROBLEM - 0 views

  • In September 2006, a parliamentary enquiry heard of a sharp increase of attacks on Jews since the war in Lebanon had started. The Times reported Mark Gardener of the Community Security Trust saying: “In July, when the conflict in Lebanon began, we received reports of 92 incidents, which was the third-worst month since records began in 1984.” In 2000 the monthly average was between 10 and 30 incidents. … The July incidents “were more dispersed than usual … It is usually a small number responsible for a large number of attacks, but these were very widespread across the country and included graffiti attacks on synagogues in Edinburgh and Glasgow. The attackers, when visible, are from across society, he said
  • For example, this Tuesday in the pub after our local Stop the War Coalition meeting there was a discussion about the US presidential elections, and one well respected socialist activist expressed the opinion that Israel decided who the US president would be, and a member of the Green Party agreed that Jews still controlled most of the world’s money. Of course other people, including myself, challenged these views.
  • Part of the reason why reasonable people accept these views is that, from the point of view of empiricism, there appears to be at least a modicum of truth in it. There is a strategic alliance between the United States and Israel, there is a quasi-McCarthyist witchhunt in the US against even bourgeois figures who question that alliance. Special priveleges are granted to pro-Israeli lobbyists in the United States, and also to a significant (though lesser) extent in Europe.
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  • There vociferous pro-Israel lobby in the United States contains Jews and non-Jews. Many of the Jewish elements have direct ties to Israel, which is hardly suprising since Zionist ideology posits Israel as the Jewish state.
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      Well, it's also because many Jews have family there - refugee family, for example.
  • But this cannot be equated with the ideology that led ultimately to the WWII genocide, when wide sections of the privelged classes of the advanced countries (though not all) believed that Jews represented some kind of subversive threat and a danger of “Western civilisation”, and were prepared for massive repression, and even mass slaughter, of the Jews. *That* ideology is dead. It only survives today in fragmentary, incoherent and electic ramblings among those subjected to oppression by the West and Israel.
  • However it’s all too often necessary to distinguish between actual anti-semitism and what Zionists claim is anti-semitism, for the purposes of deflecting criticism of the Israeli state.
  • agree that the genocidal anti-Semitism of the Nazis is on a different scale to other less violent forms of anti-Semitism. However, the truth is that in its 2,000 year old history anti-Semitism like all other forms of hatred and bigotry has existed on the level of a general dislike of Jews, danagerous falsehoods about Jews and sporadic outbursts of violence against Jews. It would be foolish in the extreme to look away as the forces of hatred gain in strength.


    Anti-Semites have always believed that they are telling the ‘truth’ about the Jews, those who ignored anti-Semitism have always thought there was a “modicum of truth” about anti-Semitic slurs.

  • Why is it that the ideology of Zionism has acquired every negative stereotype of the Jew?


    Zionists control the media

    Zionists control international finance

    Zionists secretly conspire to rule the world

    Zionists start proxy wars for their own benefit

    Zionists kill children

    Zionists are greedy


  • #7Why is it that the ideology of Zionism has acquired every negative stereotype of the Jew?
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    Zionists control the media
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    Zionists control international finance
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    Zionists secretly conspire to rule the world
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    Zionists start proxy wars for their own benefit
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    Zionists kill children
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    Zionists are greedy
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      KEY IDEA

    • Incidentally, people should know that the charge that Jews benefit from antisemitism - that Jews use antisemitism in an instrumental way to increase their power - is an old one. It was articulated in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which claimed, in Protocol 9, that the world Jewish conspiracy had said the following:


      “Nowadays, if any States raise a protest against us it is only PRO FORMA at our discretion and by our direction, for their anti-semitism is indispensible to us for the management of our lesser brethren…”

  • As I explained on another post I have no interest in increasing the number of anti-Semites. The Zionists do that except they class anyone as an anti-Semite who opposes the Israeli state.
  • ‘For example, Hess writes that the Children of Israel were originally idolaters whose principle god, Moloch, demanded blood sacrifices… In the course of time, he maintains the Jews passed from blood (dam) sacrificesto money (damin) sacrifices. Shlomo Avineiri, ‘The Making of Modern Zionism - The Intellectual Origins of the Jewish State’ p.41,Weidenfeld & Nicholson, London, 1981. Is there any better example of Jewish self-hatred than these Zionists?


    Or Jacob Klatzkin, editor of the Zionist main weekly, Die Welt between 1909-11 and one of the founders of the Encyclopedia Judaica. This is what he wrote about Jews outside Palestine:

    ‘Galut can only drag out the disgrace of our people and sustain the existence of a people disfigured in both body and soul - in a word, of a horror. At the very worst it can maintain us in a state of national impurity and breed some sort of outlandish creature in an environment of disintegration of cultures and of darkening spiritual horizons. The result will be something neither Jewish nor Gentile - in any case, not a pure national type…. some sort of oddity among the peoples going by the name of Jew. Arthur Hertzberg, ‘The Zionist Idea’ pp. 322/323. Herzberg was Deputy Chair of the American Jewish Congress and an ardent Zionist.


    Or his most infamous statement that ‘If we do not admit the rightfulness of anti-Semitism we deny the rightfulness of our own nationalism… Instead of establishing societies for defence against the anti-Semites who want to reduce our rights, we should establish societies for defence against our friends, who desire to defend our rights. (B. Matovu, “The Zionist Wish and the Nazi Deed’ Issue, Winter 1966-7. Uri Davies, ‘Utopia Incorporated’ p.

  • Yes many Jews do live in the diaspora and that is one of life’s contradictions. What it means in practice is that there is a contradiction between the interests of Jews living here and the interests of the Israeli state. It is a living contradiction and it is something that Zionism cannot overcome other than by attrition. The reality is that Zionism is parasitical on diaspora Jewry and is bringing anti-Semitism in its wake. And if anti-Semitism did ever rear its ugly head again Israel would be no refuge as Argentina demonstrated.
  • This antisemitic, Stalinist pile of steaming rubbish is not Marxism.


    In Capital, Marx offered an analysis of exploitation which did not rely on a picture of the rich and the powerful conspiring against the exploited. That was his genius. He replaced conspiracy theory with a structural analysis.

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      marxism.

  • sed by non-Jews, as well as Jews. As to why, that 13% held by the JNF is reserved for Jews, the reasoning as far as I can understand it, before either justifying or condemning the policy is twofold.
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    First, there is a context to consider parallel to the aspirations of First Nations in British Columbia, most of which are currently negotiating treaties with both the provincial and federal governments in Canada, First Nations in BC assert that a substantial portion of the lands they receive as a result of the treaty process are to be deemed as communal lands held by a given First Nation as a whole and not deemed as fee simple lands in which any private individual or private interest is eligible to purchase the land from a member of the First Nation who was allocated land as a result of a ratified treaty and later able to sell that land to any other private individual or interest. Of course, the reason that First Nations do not want most or all the land they receive through the treaty process to be deemed fee simple is because of the likelihood that under a fee simple title, much of the land they receive out of a treaty process can be sold out to people who aren’t members of the First Nation minority, thereby defeating the purpose of the treaty process in the first place. Of course much of the right wing opposition to both the treaty process and to any non-fee-simple titled land being transferred to First Nations hinges on the argument that land held communally by any First Nation is racist.
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    In what way can the aforementioned scenario in BC be compared to the 13% of state lands held by the JNF in Israel? Well, of course inside Israel, Jews make up approximately 80% of the country’s population and so within the state they can not be considered a minority. However, in the Arab Middle East, from which most of Israel’s Jewish population originated, the situation is altogether different. The ratio of land in square miles held by Arab states that Jews are forbidden from purchasing is about 650:1. For every one square mile in the Middle East owned by a Jew, 650 square miles of land are held by Arabs that Jews are forbidden to purchase or own.
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      JNF debunk
  • the Supreme Court, which is a political body like its US counterpart,
  • However, it is so nice to see that this SU blog that had the pretence of a progressive blog just a few month ago, is now officially transformed into a kosher cyber shtettle with the David Taubs, and the Fabians, and the Greensteins, and the Tims, and the Gaswinds. What can i say, well done guys, well done Andy, it didn’t take too long.


    You are indeed an impressive bunch of ‘Wondering cyber Jews’.


    I ask myself, why can’t you just settle in one blog like us in Pepa?

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      my god he is saying that jews are colonising the web
  • The JNF controls a whopping 13% of state land in Israel, not 93%, while 87% of the land inside the 1967 armistice lines can either be leased or purchased by non-Jews, as well as Jews. As to why, that 13% held by the JNF is reserved for Jews, the reasoning as far as I can understand it, before either justifying or condemning the policy is twofold.


    First, there is a context to consider parallel to the aspirations of First Nations in British Columbia, most of which are currently negotiating treaties with both the provincial and federal governments in Canada, First Nations in BC assert that a substantial portion of the lands they receive as a result of the treaty process are to be deemed as communal lands held by a given First Nation as a whole and not deemed as fee simple lands in which any private individual or private interest is eligible to purchase the land from a member of the First Nation who was allocated land as a result of a ratified treaty and later able to sell that land to any other private individual or interest. Of course, the reason that First Nations do not want most or all the land they receive through the treaty process to be deemed fee simple is because of the likelihood that under a fee simple title, much of the land they receive out of a treaty process can be sold out to people who aren’t members of the First Nation minority, thereby defeating the purpose of the treaty process in the first place. Of course much of the right wing opposition to both the treaty process and to any non-fee-simple titled land being transferred to First Nations hinges on the argument that land held communally by any First Nation is racist.


    In what way can the aforementioned scenario in BC be compared to the 13% of state lands held by the JNF in Israel? Well, of course inside Israel, Jews make up approximately 80% of the country’s population and so within the state they can not be considered a minority. However, in the Arab Middle East, from which most of Israel’s Jewish population originated, the situation is altogether different. The ratio of land in square miles held by Arab states that Jews are forbidden from purchasing is about 650:1. For every one square mile in the Middle East owned by a Jew, 650 square miles of land are held by Arabs that Jews are forbidden to purchase or own.

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In Gaza, Hamas's Insults to Jews Complicate Peace - New York Times - 0 views

  • In Gaza, Hamas’s Insults to Jews Complicate Peace
  • In the Katib Wilayat mosque one recent Friday, the imam was discussing the wiliness of the Jew.
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savethemales.ca - We're all Anti-Semites Now - 0 views

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    An antisemite trying to rehabilitate antisemitism as a positive view to hold.
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Pajamas Media » German Daily: Bush Was Hitler - 0 views

  • Relentlessly and with a pressing intensity, Begley lists the anti-Semitic incidents that took place in France during and after the Dreyfus Affair. He then moves from this to the American Islamophobia of the Bush government, which, inasmuch as it illegally imprisoned and tortured people, essentially behaved no differently than the National Socialists.
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    Relentlessly and with a pressing intensity, Begley lists the anti-Semitic incidents that took place in France during and after the Dreyfus Affair. He then moves from this to the American Islamophobia of the Bush government, which, inasmuch as it illegally imprisoned and tortured people, essentially behaved no differently than the National Socialists.
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Virulent new strain of anti-Semitism rife in UK, says Chief Rabbi -Times Online - 0 views

  • Whereas in the past, hatred was focused against Judaism as a religion or Jews
    as a race, the focus this time was on Jews as a nation. The rise in the
    number of attacks in January took place at the same time as Israel’s assault
    on Hamas in Gaza.



    “It begins as anti-Zionism — but it is never merely anti-Zionism when it
    attacks synagogues or Jewish schools,” Sir Jonathan said. “In the
    post-Holocaust world the single greatest source of authority is human rights
    — therefore the new anti-Semitism is constructed in the language of human
    rights.”

  • Sir Jonathan said that the mood had changed after the terrorist attacks on the
    World Trade Centre in 2001. His daughter, who at the time was studying at
    the London School of Economics, “had gone to an anti-globalisation rally
    which quickly turned into a diatribe against Israel and Jews. She came home
    weeping and said, ‘Dad they hate us’. I never expected that to happen in the
    21st century,” he said.
  • What disturbs people is the atrocities against the Semitic people of Palestine . There has always been a confusion about the Jewish people and the Zionist, they are two different entities. One is religious the other political. its unfortunate that the real Jewish people are damaged by this. Bless.
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    Whereas in the past, hatred was focused against Judaism as a religion or Jews as a race, the focus this time was on Jews as a nation. The rise in the number of attacks in January took place at the same time as Israel's assault on Hamas in Gaza.

    "It begins as anti-Zionism - but it is never merely anti-Zionism when it attacks synagogues or Jewish schools," Sir Jonathan said. "In the post-Holocaust world the single greatest source of authority is human rights - therefore the new anti-Semitism is constructed in the language of human rights."
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Moishe Postone on history, the Holocaust and the anti-capitalist Left « Greens Engage - 0 views

  • As fetishised form of anticapitalism.
  • Antisemitism is populist, counterhegemonic, claims explanatory power. Modern a/s purports to explain the modern capitalist world. Misrecognises the global domination of capital. Freeing the world involves freeing it from the Jews. Emancipatory. Blurs differences between reactionary and progressive/emancipatory. Bebel. Antisemitism today understands capitalism as a Jewish conspiracy.
  • Firstly, he actually manages to completely miss that one of the big arguments within the anticapitalist movement was between those who wanted to take a class approach and those who were keener on the post-left critique.
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  • Firstly, he actually manages to completely miss that one of the big arguments within the anticapitalist movement was between those who wanted to take a class approach and those who were keener on the post-left critique.
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Boycotting universities not anti-Semitism | Op-Ed Contributors | Jerusalem Post - 0 views

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      I could equally say, and quote several examples, that it is politically-minded Israelis - on the left as well as the right - using the Diaspora as a campaigning ground, which opens the door to antisemitism. Haim Bresheeth. Ilan Pappe. My friend who briefly believed that '7 Jewish Children' had a hard but necessary message which might be a bit antisemitic, but it was worth it. Newman is no help in this respect - Israel is his priority, and its a different priority from this British Jew.
  • THERE IS NOTHING like a good boycott or perceived anti-Semitism to bring a Diaspora Jewish community into action. In the UK, where there is no lack of community institutions, the boycott attempts have spawned the establishment of a well-funded Stop the Boycott Campaign, the Fair Play Group and the reincarnation of the pro-Israel lobby, BICOM. It has also renewed the fighting spirit of academic organizations such as the Academic Friends of Israel, left-of-center Engage, or the right-of-center SPME - a North American consortium of scholars which has now established branches among UK academics to try to ensure a more balanced debate on campuses.
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      "Perceived anti-Semitism"? And Engage as a "Diaspora Jewish community"? David Newman puts clear water between his own agenda and that of his idea of Diaspora Jews.
  • Moreover, many Israeli academics simply do not buy into the simplistic notions of collective anti-Semitism as the main argument used by many of the community groups. No, my colleagues are not naive. We are well aware that there is a growth of anti-Semitism in the UK, some of it on campuses. Nor are we unaware that what has been termed the "new anti-Semitism" is rooted in the radical left and within sections of the Islamic community, as contrasted with the more traditional anti-Semitism of fascist and racist right-wing groups.

    We constantly tell our colleagues on UK campuses that unless they control the debate about Israel and introduce a level of balance that is sorely missing, they will be responsible for having opened the back door to the real anti-Semites, for whom Israel is an irrelevance and who are intent on making British campuses uncomfortable places for Jewish students and faculty.

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  • But to simply regurgitate the argument of collective anti-Semitism in response to every criticism of Israel and its policies is as self-defeating as it is helpful. In continuous and ongoing discussions with our academic colleagues in the UK, it is this simplistic charge of anti-Semitism and the failure to engage with the real issues which pushes the silent majority and the waverers into the corner of the pro-boycotters.
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Hal Draper and Israel | Workers' Liberty - 0 views

  • If a threatening anti-semitic fascist movement develops here, the fascists will in part have built on the currents of 'left wing' anti-semitism that have washed about the labour movement and the left for thirty years, in the form of a Zionophobia which demonised Israel and its supports as the very essence of imperialism, racism and reaction, and consequently preached political hostility to most Jews alive who identify with and defend Israel. The pre-war fascists too of course, had currents of old 'left wing' anti-semitism, equating capitalism, or financial capitalism with Jews, to build on. The German socialist leader August Bebel once said of this sort of anti-semitism: "It is the socialism of the fools.. For much of the revolutionary left, hostility to Israel has been the sharpest note in their "anti-imperialism".
  • This approach has led critics, for example the SWP, to denounce us as 'Zionists'. We are international socialists. If the policy outlined here seems 'Zionist', that is one measure of what our critics are: Arab nationalists and vicarious chauvinists1.
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normblog: The reasons they give (by Eve Garrard) - 0 views

  • Here are some of the things voters in the BMJ poll have actually said about why they support an academic boycott of Israel. I should say that the responses I quote are in no way unique - there are always several others making the same or similar points. (I haven't corrected spelling, punctuation, etc.)
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Alan Hart: THE SICKNESS IN THE WORLD OF BLOGS, Alan Hart's Response to Chris Edwards - 0 views

  • Vilification by sick supporters of Israel right or wrong does not make me angry. I just feel very, very sorry for them. I also have the comfort of knowing that I occupy the moral high ground. How so? Stripped down to its absolute essence, Zionism, The Real Enemy of the Jews is the call of a concerned and caring goy, me, for the Jews to become the light unto nations, not least because the rest of us need them to be. Also, on every public platform on which I speak, I am passionate in my explanation of why it is wrong to blame all Jews for what a minority of hardcore Zionists have done and are doing in Palestine that became Israel and the U.S.
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Ken Livingstone: the interview (part 3) - 21st Century Socialism - 0 views

  • Tucker:  But you were accused yourself of inviting over Al-Qaradawi, who has himself has been pilloried, fairly or unfairly, as a mad fundamentalist. What happened there?



    Livingstone:  Well,  Al-Qaradawi just happened to be coming. To my shame, I was so ignorant about the theological disputes between the various wings of Sunni Islam, I knew nothing about Al-Qaradawi...



    Tucker:  Not part of the job description of the London Mayor then? [Laughter]



    Livingstone:   No, I rapidly found out. Effectively, you have the Wahabi strand of Islam... they had the first real encounter with the West and that was Gordon's defeat at Khartoum. But it was taken up by the Saudi royal family, funded massively, and it is a particularly intolerant and backward looking strand of Islam. Then you have Al-Qaradawi, whose writings and programmes are accessed by hundreds of millions of  Muslims, who talks about engagement with the West, whose own daughters have all been educated in the West. The Wahabi and the Saudis are virulently anti-Qaradawi, and that’s the choice.


    Of course, some people might say 'ah, there is a small group of twenty five wholly secular Muslims who are all good socialists' - that’s fine, I really want to work with them. But the choice you have actually got is Wahabi or Qaradawi. Qaradawi's not perfect, he is not going to turn up on a gay rights march. But that’s the choice that’s being fought over in the Muslim world, and you therefore work with the most progressive elements.

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New Statesman - An embrace that shames London - 0 views

  • Peter Tatchell, a former Ken Livingstone ally, finds himself accused of Islamophobia as the mayor continues to defend a Muslim cleric who favours killing gays
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Democratiya - Dave and Mark on Yusuf Al Qaradawi - 0 views

  • Nor, significantly, does Qaradawi feel that the Palestinians have the authority to make such a peace agreement with Israel:


     


    I have always stressed that Palestine is a Muslim land belonging to all generations of the Muslim nation. Therefore, if any of these generations fail to defend and protect this land, it is for the following generations to stand up for this task. If Palestinians neglect their duty of defending this land, the whole Muslim nation is required to take this responsibility and defend the land either by force or word. (p. 5)

  • Israelis, Zionists and Jews are conflated and the terms freely mixed throughout the book. One chapter answers the question, 'Is it permissible to buy items from Israeli sources, even though this money may be used to help the Jewish "war machine"?' Qaradawi replies by ruling that 'Every Muslim that buys "Israeli" or American goods, when there is an alternative from other countries is committing a prohibited act' (p. 40), but then later writes that '[T]he consumer buying Jewish or American goods is committing a major sin' (p. 43).
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New Statesman - Never criticise the family - 0 views

  • As an old-fashioned philo-Semitic assimi lationist (if I may say), I have felt strongly for some time past that it would be disastrous if any large public controversy were to develop in which all, or even most, Jewish opinion were on one side and all non-Jewish opinion on the other. In June 1967 the British, like the western Europeans and Americans, Jew and Gentile alike, overwhelmingly supported
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Second opinion | Worldwide | EducationGuardian.co.uk - 0 views

  • A reference to the "Jewish lobby" in the article below could have been misinterpreted as meaning the pro-Israeli, or anti-boycott side in the argument. We were referring specifically to the Board of Deputies of British Jews and the Union of Jewish students, organisations that both raised objections to the timing of the original debate. It took place on the Passover seder, the family meal held on the eve of Passover (which we referred to in error as the sabbath).
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Lenny Ben-David on Israel Lobby on National Review Online - 0 views

  • Earlier this year retired general Wesley Clark warned blogger Arianna Huffington that “New York money people” are pushing America into a war against Iran. “You just have to read what’s in the Israeli press,” he said. “The Jewish community is divided, but there is so much pressure being channeled from the New York money people to the office seekers.”
  • The statement had a malodorous hint of anti-Semitism. Is the term “New York money people” a code for Jews? The statement elicited a distinct memory.

    It was an echo of a statement made by Gen. George Scratchley Brown, chairman of the Joints Chiefs in 1974. Brown was smarting from the emergency drawdown of frontline American army equipment that was dispatched to Israel in the emergency airlift during the October 1973 war when Israel repelled an invasion by Soviet-armed Egypt and Syria. No military man wants to have his military toys taken away. Brown unleashed this classic anti-Semitic response at an appearance at Duke University law school on October 10, 1974: “[The American public could] get tough-minded enough to set down the Jewish influence in this country and break that lobby. We have the Israelis coming to us for equipment. We can say ‘we can’t possibly get the Congress to support a program like this.’ And they say ‘don’t worry about the Congress. We will take care of the Congress.’ This is somebody from another country, but they can do it. They own, you know, the banks in this country. The newspapers. Just look at where the Jewish money is.”
  • Indeed, this son of a Jewish father was quick to assure Jewish organizations of his abhorrence of anti-Semitism. More likely, his comments reflect the milieu and culture of a young junior
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  • #4The bottom line is that AIPAC, a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on Congress, with the result that U.S. policy towards Israel is not debated there
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      Ben Ami and Beilin don't find that AIPAC is the I gov's agent - sometimes more of an interference
  • The bottom line is that AIPAC, a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on Congress, with the result that U.S. policy towards Israel is not debated there
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Why are Jews so powerful - 0 views

  • William James Sidis, with an IQ of 250-300, is the brightest human who ever
    existed. Guess what faith did he belong to?


    So, why are Jews so powerful? Answer: Education.


     

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HaloScan.com - Comments Mark Elf on Jews - 0 views



  • The sad thing, I think, is this propensity for sheer instinctive dishonesty has become a habit of mind with many, maybe most, Jews. It's part of the culture now and it'll be a hard slog shifting it. I think as communities, the Jews are heading for a disaster thanks to this grotesque culture of deceit. I can't imagine what form this disaster will take but suppose it happens like a flash, in a moment. I wonder who will be identifying as Jews after it happens.
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