I'm afraid I can't understand one point about Diigo. It's this: I've done the transfer process but does that mean the *content* of my Furl pages are now stored on Diigo, or just the bookmarks? Despite reading the Diigo help and other information, this thread, and searching on the web for the answer to this point, I can't find an answer.
If they are, are they safely stored, or should I also try and download them all - a big job! - and back them up. i.e. do I need to do anything more? The reason I ask this is because the Furl site itself is no longer there.
Can anyone explain this to me simply please. Thank you!
Thanks very much Graham. I did read that but it says: "Meanwhile, given that those data are enormously large, we are evaluating the the best possible solution to transfer those cached pages, but it will take a while. So, please stay tuned! "
So, along with other conflicting info given re the Furl transfer, I'm still not sure if all the stuff will be transferred. I don't want to bore you with too much detail. But my you see Diigo's information is not clear if the stuff I see in my account are links to Furl or actually stored with Diigo.
It just says go to furl and transfer a zip archive, but one can't do that. Anyway Furl has gone now so it appears all will be transferred over. Diigo looks like a very good facility.
--Added-- I've just noticed you've got a photo from The Day The Earth Stood Still. I'm a fan of that film, and old films in general. I also remember Crystal Tips And Alistair, narrated by Richard Baker. I'm a fan of The Sky AT Night but preferred it before the new presenters joined. I raed Ray Bradbury years ago including, I think, The Martian Chronicles.
As you say furl isn't on the internet anymore. When you search for furl, or go to Diigo, as you've probably seen, you get this webpage (as long as you're signed out of Diigo):
If you click on the red link at top right of the page, and then follow the directions, you should be able to get all your links transferred over.
This is what I did. My only doubt is whether the pages I archived at Furl are now safely stored at Diigo. Although Graham says in post #40, they probably are somewhere - and I was hoping they were, I'm finding the actual pages are not being transferred.
The titles of the pages I stored on Furl seem all to have been transferred. But when I click "cached" to see these pages I mostly don't get the original furled pages. (Although in some cases I do.)
And for some links I get this message:
"Cached page for this bookmark is not available at the moment, but caching service will resume later to save this page. Please click the following link to visit original page:."
So I have doubts that they will all eventually be transferred over. I also find that the Diigo advice talks of "going to furl and transfer a zip archive". But there seems to be no way of doing this.
As you say, the big issue is how to get the original Furl data, i.e. furled webpages; and whether it is still available or whether it has been lost.
"Thanks someone1000. That link just goes to the page mentioned earlier, which is dead. "
Hi Kevin,
I found that page was still working a couple of days ago. Can you use a public library or friends computer? Then at least you could get your bookmarks. I've since found quite clearly that some of my furl pages have been transferred and stored with Diigo, but that most haven't.
They first e-mailed me about Furl closing on 17th March this year. So I think they should have kept Furl on-line a bit longer so we could grab our stuff. Also it would be good if they clearly updated that main page - AND remove stuff about being able to go to Furl and getting/zip archiving one's stuff. Which is no longer the case.
You may like to try surfing on Yahoo for more info. For instance: http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&rd=r1&fr=yfp-t-501&p=furl+cached+pages&SpellState=n-492610971_q-l5c0VzGPPXCWCQb1BZktzAAAAA%40%40&fr2=sp-qrw-corr-top
The e-mail I've just sent below may be of interest to you:
To "Diigo" Date Sat, 13 Jun 2009 . Dear Sir,
Thank you for your service so far. But please note the following problem:
Many of my webpages saved with Furl HAVE been transferred to Diigo. But some, in fact most, have not. In these cases instead of transferring the actual 'furled' page, a DIFFERENT page (an index from the site the original page was on *and not the page itself*) has been transferred and cached with Diigo.
I notice many others on your communities boards have the same concerns. So could you answer the following questions please? And I will post them so others can benefit from the information.
Can you allow us to access furl and get the data i.e. 'furled' pages that are not being transferred to Diigo? Or can we in some other way get these missing pages that are not being tranferred to Diigo? Also would you be kind enough to let me know if you had any contractual agreement with the owners of Furl in connection with this? For example did you pay money for customer loyalty in connection with the takeover?
I'd be very grateful if you could resolve these matters by answering me and/or posting the answers on the Diigo communities site. Thank you.
Also I quite often get this message: "Cached page for this bookmark is not available at the moment, but caching service will resume later to save this page. Please click the following link to visit original page:"
I can't visit the original page because it no longer exsists. That was my purpose in using Furl - to save information I thought important but which I knew would only be available for a limited period. (I am a serious student of politics etc.)
Also in the 'My Lists' view one sees:
"Items: 15 | Visits: 0 Category: Not Categorized Created: on 2009-05-20 Updated: on 2009-05-20
Print Archive Publish Edit Delete"
But there's no mention on your Help pages about what 'Archive' here does. When I click it it appears to add items to the 'List'/folder and also changes the name of it. What is going on here please?
THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO THEIR E-MAIL TO ME: On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:43:53 +0000, "Diigo" said: > We are excited that Furl has become part of Diigo.com The > transfer of your Furl bookmarks to your Diigo account is now > completed. > Here is your Diigo login info: > Username: someone1000 > Email: dwdwdwdw@fastmail.fm > You can check your bookmarks here: > http://www.diigo.com/user/someone1000 > Note: Your transferred Furl tags may still require more time to > process and will be available shortly. > The Diigo Team > PS. Having trouble? Contact our Customer Service Team at > info@diigo.com
If they are, are they safely stored, or should I also try and download them all - a big job! - and back them up. i.e. do I need to do anything more? The reason I ask this is because the Furl site itself is no longer there.
Can anyone explain this to me simply please. Thank you!
So, along with other conflicting info given re the Furl transfer, I'm still not sure if all the stuff will be transferred. I don't want to bore you with too much detail. But my you see Diigo's information is not clear if the stuff I see in my account are links to Furl or actually stored with Diigo.
It just says go to furl and transfer a zip archive, but one can't do that. Anyway Furl has gone now so it appears all will be transferred over. Diigo looks like a very good facility.
--Added--
I've just noticed you've got a photo from The Day The Earth Stood Still. I'm a fan of that film, and old films in general. I also remember Crystal Tips And Alistair, narrated by Richard Baker. I'm a fan of The Sky AT Night but preferred it before the new presenters joined. I raed Ray Bradbury years ago including, I think, The Martian Chronicles.
As you say furl isn't on the internet anymore. When you search for furl, or go to Diigo, as you've probably seen, you get this webpage (as long as you're signed out of Diigo):
http://www.diigo.com/?source=redirect_from_furl
If you click on the red link at top right of the page, and then follow the directions, you should be able to get all your links transferred over.
This is what I did. My only doubt is whether the pages I archived at Furl are now safely stored at Diigo. Although Graham says in post #40, they probably are somewhere - and I was hoping they were, I'm finding the actual pages are not being transferred.
The titles of the pages I stored on Furl seem all to have been transferred. But when I click "cached" to see these pages I mostly don't get the original furled pages. (Although in some cases I do.)
And for some links I get this message:
"Cached page for this bookmark is not available at the moment, but caching service will resume later to save this page. Please click the following link to visit original page:."
So I have doubts that they will all eventually be transferred over. I also find that the Diigo advice talks of "going to furl and transfer a zip archive". But there seems to be no way of doing this.
As you say, the big issue is how to get the original Furl data, i.e. furled webpages; and whether it is still available or whether it has been lost.
Hi Kevin,
I found that page was still working a couple of days ago. Can you use a public library or friends computer? Then at least you could get your bookmarks. I've since found quite clearly that some of my furl pages have been transferred and stored with Diigo, but that most haven't.
They first e-mailed me about Furl closing on 17th March this year. So I think they should have kept Furl on-line a bit longer so we could grab our stuff. Also it would be good if they clearly updated that main page - AND remove stuff about being able to go to Furl and getting/zip archiving one's stuff. Which is no longer the case.
You may like to try surfing on Yahoo for more info. For instance:
http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&rd=r1&fr=yfp-t-501&p=furl+cached+pages&SpellState=n-492610971_q-l5c0VzGPPXCWCQb1BZktzAAAAA%40%40&fr2=sp-qrw-corr-top
The e-mail I've just sent below may be of interest to you:
To "Diigo"
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your service so far. But please note the following problem:
Many of my webpages saved with Furl HAVE been transferred to Diigo. But some, in fact most, have not. In these cases instead of transferring the actual 'furled' page, a DIFFERENT page (an index from the site the original page was on *and not the page itself*) has been transferred and cached with Diigo.
I notice many others on your communities boards have the same concerns. So could you answer the following questions please? And I will post them so others can benefit from the information.
Can you allow us to access furl and get the data i.e. 'furled' pages that are not being transferred to Diigo? Or can we in some other way get these missing pages that are not being tranferred to Diigo? Also would you be kind enough to let me know if you had any contractual agreement with the owners of Furl in connection with this? For example did you pay money for customer loyalty in connection with the takeover?
I'd be very grateful if you could resolve these matters by answering me and/or posting the answers on the Diigo communities site. Thank you.
Also I quite often get this message:
"Cached page for this bookmark is not available at the moment, but caching service will resume later to save this page. Please click the following link to visit original page:"
I can't visit the original page because it no longer exsists. That was my purpose in using Furl - to save information I thought important but which I knew would only be available for a limited period. (I am a serious student of politics etc.)
Also in the 'My Lists' view one sees:
"Items: 15 | Visits: 0
Category: Not Categorized
Created: on 2009-05-20
Updated: on 2009-05-20
Print Archive Publish Edit Delete"
But there's no mention on your Help pages about what 'Archive' here does. When I click it it appears to add items to the 'List'/folder and also changes the name of it. What is going on here please?
THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO THEIR E-MAIL TO ME:
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:43:53 +0000, "Diigo"
> We are excited that Furl has become part of Diigo.com The
> transfer of your Furl bookmarks to your Diigo account is now
> completed.
> Here is your Diigo login info:
> Username: someone1000
> Email: dwdwdwdw@fastmail.fm
> You can check your bookmarks here:
> http://www.diigo.com/user/someone1000
> Note: Your transferred Furl tags may still require more time to
> process and will be available shortly.
> The Diigo Team
> PS. Having trouble? Contact our Customer Service Team at
> info@diigo.com