Queriac mentioned at http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/552239#12

More commands at http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fyubnub.org%2Fkernel%2Fls%3Fargs%3Ddiigo?tab=comment&gname=Diigo_HQ

YubNub.org mentioned at
http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/549401#5
http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/552239#12
http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/1006696#2

More commands at http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fqueri.ac%2Fuser_commands%2Ftag%2Fdiigo?tab=comment&gname=Diigo_HQ

As https://wave.google.com/ redirects to https://wave.google.com/wave/
so both URLs should be treated as a home pages; floating notes should be disallowed.

At the moment, there are eight floating, some of which are very obstructive.

> Highlight and sticky notes work in permanent URL - they
> won't work in dynamic pages like pages in emails

AFAICT in Diigo 4.0 beta, handling of
#
character within URLs improves the ability of Diigo to bookmark some types of page. At least:

* compatible with Google Gmail
* partly compatible with Google Wave.

Maggie Tsai wrote:

>> keep diigolet active

> I have a test script

@ Maggie

Please, did that script lead to anything?

(I posted An omnipresent Diigolet, or something like it in December 2008, then stumbled across this 2007 topic whilst answering Diigolet toolbar won't stay put.)

I imagine performance implications, but I thought I'd ask…

> ten screen shots

Three more key points:

In http://www.wuala.com/grahamperrin/Documents/diigo-public/299/004.png the toolbar is hidden, but a Diigo icon continues to interfere with the New message button of OWA. Aiming for a new message too easily reaches something other than the New message button, the toolbar drops down, a zig-zag is required to hide the toolbar for the umpteenth time then return to the New message button.

http://www.wuala.com/grahamperrin/Documents/diigo-public/299/005.png shows the toolbar reappearing too easily when I aim for something other than the OWA area; whilst the toolbar is hidden, the remaining Diigo icon mid-screen is an obstacle that must be carefully steered around.

http://www.wuala.com/grahamperrin/Documents/diigo-public/299/006.png is most interesting. If load of Diigolet is incomplete for some reason, then the Loading Diigolet banner is so obstructive that the user must either close, or navigate away to another page.

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Outlook Web Access Basic is clearly too stiff a test, and in those screen shots I ignore the forewarning that Diigolet is not applicable! Still, it's useful for me to see (for the first time) the reasons for lack of support.

Experimenting with the Diigolet-oriented script for Greasemonkey installed to GreaseKit.

A long list of exclusions may apply.

Exclusions can not prevent Diigolet 4.0b14 from appearing within the preview frame of Diigo Meta. Whether this will be a problem, I'm not sure.

Spun off from http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/552239

> http://chiton.net16.net/pages/diigo-bookmarklets.html

More to follow …

Not all of them ;)

The examples with my name, or my UID number, are not intended for general consumption. (AFAIK the scripts can do no harm, but users will be more interested in their own views of things, than mine :)

I'm discouraging annotated links until after the missing comments issue is addressed.

The meta ones could be useful, if end users understand that they must manually add (for example) their own user name or group name to the tail of the URL. I know of no way to programatically do that sort of stuff with Diigo.

Feel free to experiment!

Thanks again,
Graham

> history tab showing a specific user

http://pastebin.ca/diff.php?id1=1678349&id2=1680743

Sometimes a person posts to a group by accident. I have done so on a few occasions.

A question, to Diigo: what's the best approach when you wish to decline the posts without banning the member?

Bump (I don't like to ban users, I'd prefer to decline messages).

> I don't like to ban users, I'd prefer to decline messages

… especially when it appears that the user may be confused by the two very different meanings of
'Diigo Community'.

Please enable e-mail notification for
keep diigolet active

> Mac OS X

1. make Diigolet the first (left-most) item in the Bookmarks Bar of Safari
2. key command-1

Yes, that's expected.

An always-on approach to current versions of Diigolet may be problematic; please review http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/546692#4.

Twice on Saturday 23rd May, whilst editing a list, attempting to add a section:

Bug

The section entry was prepared (i.e. I typed all required information) but when I clicked the second of the two Add Section buttons, addition was not made.

Workaround

Reload the page, repeat all steps required for addition.

Observation

Screen shots to follow.

I suspect that the text fields and related buttons are available too soon; that they should be not presented until after the page has loaded completely.

http://www.wuala.com/grahamperrin/Documents/diigo-public/45882-001.png
- screen shot of the foot (only) of the page following the first failure
- shot at 2009-05-23 00:11 UK time

http://www.wuala.com/grahamperrin/Documents/diigo-public/45882-002.pdf
- PDF of the page following the first failure
- saved at 2009-05-23 00:12 UK time

http://www.wuala.com/grahamperrin/Documents/diigo-public/45882-003.webarchive
- .webarchive of the page following the second failure
- saved at 2009-05-23 00:23 UK time

http://www.wuala.com/grahamperrin/Documents/diigo-public/45882-004.pdf
- PDF of the page following the second failure
- saved at 2009-05-23 00:23 UK time

I haven't seen this bug in a long while.

Tags: resolved, worksforme

> description is now in the group as a comment

In groups, descriptions are no longer a feature of bookmarks.

Description is converted to comment.

1. http://www.eggblogg.co.uk/2009/07/using-speech-bubbles-to-get-your-point-across.html

2. highlight the heading text
Using 'speech bubbles' to get your point across

Bug

Pencil icon is missing, and so:

* no contextual menu, and so
* the highlight can not be edited or deleted
* notes can not be stuck.



Environment

Diigolet 4.0b14
Safari 4.0.3 (6531.9) in Mac OS X

Another example of the bug added to http://www.wuala.com/Diigo-4/986182

Seven more examples:

Please, how soon might users of Diigolet gain the 'Get Annotated Link' feature?

Conceptually: if Diigolet can link to the meta view of a bookmarked page, then it becomes easier for the viewer to step quickly to the relevant site library.

Example: http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fdrupal.org%2Fproject%2Fdeploy?tab=people&uname=lardissone leads to http://www.diigo.com/community/site/drupal.org

Related suggestion: sort options for 'Community library from the site…'

Considerations:

* apparent deprecation of Diigo About (to which previous versions of Diigolet linked)

* recent support for # in URLs, with consequential variety of different bookmarks for a single page

* the wish to see who else is interested in a page (or a variant URL of the same page) before proceeding to bookmark and annotate

* etc..

Big thanks to yuppi c :-)

I created a separate topic for the other bookmarklets,
user-contributed bookmarklets for Diigo

(This topic focused on Diigolet.)

Not really a Diigo question but here goes.

For pages such as
http://meteorserver.org/
where some texts are difficult or impossible to select,† does anyone have any handy hints for easing/enabling selection?

I sometimes use the Develop menu of Safari to temporarily Disable Styles, then select, then re-enable styles, then click the highlight button (Diigolet 4.0b14) but it's a bit long-winded.

Any other suggestions gratefully appreciated.

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† In the lower part of Diigo Meta at http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fmeteorserver.org%2F?tab=comment&uname=grahamperrin we see a strange effect.

Previous workaround (refresh the page, to gain a less obtrusive advertisement) is not working for me today.

The much more fiddly (less intuitive) workaround is to alt-tab (in Safari in Mac OS X) until you reach the hidden link to flag as spammer.

> Any ad blocker should do.

Unfortunately the beta of PithHelmet is not blocking these particular ads. Maybe a misconfiguration by me.

> should be fixes at the source.

Indeed :)

Annotated view http://www.diigo.com/annotated?gname=sandpit&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opera.com
(referred from http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opera.com?tab=comment&gname=sandpit ) is without annotations.

I'll review this maybe tomorrow. In any case, allowing plenty of time for group-related features to settle following the current period of transition.

Please, can this bug gain priority? All comments are invisible!

The misunderstandings caused by invisibility are beginning to cause embarrassment.

Example: three of three comments missing from http://www.diigo.com/06pec

- annotated links such as this are viewed by members of the public, without installation of Diigo!

Bump, all page comments are invisible!

Please, how does Diigo team plan to fix this?

At http://www.diigo.com/list/grahamperrin/malware-flash all page comments are missing.

Assume that the bug bites all other lists.

Problems

I don't get suggested tags, and I'm mildly bothered by the lack of consistency in communities' approaches to tagging.

Solution: mash

My workflow — with naturally accelerated bookmarklets in Safari in Mac OS X

 1. command-1 for Faviki bookmarklet

 2. immediately type unread

 3. key Enter or Return

 4. click Save

 5. command-M to minimise the window

 6. in other windows, continue browsing
    — and bookmarking with Faviki bookmarklet and/or Diigolet

 7. when I'm ready, un-dock the window

 8. choose from tags suggested by Faviki
    — powered by Zemanta and Google

 9. enter any additional tags
    — auto-complete list
    — tag search
    — benefit from Common Tag format and Wikipedia definitions.

10. click Save

11. click Faviki

12. copy tags

13. command-{ to browse back to the bookmarked page

14. command-2 for Diigolet

15. paste tags

16. to multiple-word tags, add Diigo-required enclosures
    — currently speech marks, " "

At first glance: the mash (sixteen steps) is long, but many of the steps are optional.

When I minimise to Dock, it allows me to focus on other things; and the time in Dock allows suggestions to arrive.

An abbreviated workflow

 1. command-1 for Faviki bookmarklet

 2. choose from suggested tags

 3. click Save

 4. click Faviki

 5. copy tags

 6. command-{ to browse back to the bookmarked page

 7. command-2 for Diigolet

 8. paste tags

9. to multiple-word tags, add Diigo-required enclosures
    — currently speech marks, " "

In both workflows

Gaining suggestions and — most importantly, Common Tag format — is easier than tagging in Diigo.

The only aggravation is the Diigo approach to multiple word tags: requiring addition of two speech marks per tag. I understand the origins of this requirement, but I'd like to see a future Diigo that's more harmonious with other services (that wish is spread across various topics).

Summary

Mashes such as this help to bring Common Tag to Diigo.

At http://www.faviki.com/pages/welcome/ the 81-second Flash video 'Tagging with Faviki' is recommended viewing.

To learn more about Common Tag, Zemanta and Faviki: http://groups.diigo.com/Web2/bookmark/tag/%22Common+Tag%22

Good news for anyone who mashes Faviki with Diigo: Faviki support for OpenID is improved (the signed in state is more persistent).

Re: Common Tag, Kevin Marks advises sticking with rel-tag. Until I get this in context, I'm continuing to use Common Tag wherever possible in Diigo. Assuming that it will help, semantically, long term.

At http://www.wsunews.wsu.edu/pages/publications.asp?Action=Detail&PublicationID=16287 Diigolet 4.0b14 does not appear.

I have seen this problem, or something like it, during Firefox updates to Diigo in the past. Again today. Suspect that I see it more often with updates to Diigo than with updates to other add-ons.

After a long wait, I opted to quit and cancel the download.

A later download was successful.

Please enable e-mail notification for the following topics:
http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/1037550
http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/1037838
http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/1045673
http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/1047013
http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/1059255

> demand

A simple click on the 'Like' mark for one of the topics should suffice ;)