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Hi,
A few days ago I discovered Diigo, and since then I've been using it every moment. First of all, thanks to all Diigo's team for creating such useful masterpiece. In this time using it, I have noticed some things which I think could be considered to get an even (if possible) bette experience with Diigo.
- Diigo is... why not say... wonderful,... beauty !! and the entries of the bookmarks are very nice, but sometimes I need to find a bookmark in an 'ocean' of bookmarks, and would be easier if every entry in the list were ... not so big, so splendid. The possibility of a 'plain' (one line height) list of bookmarks would be very useful sometimes.
- One of the most important things I need about bookmarks, is getting them as organized as possible (so I am used to use Firefox bookmarks' system) with folders and subfolders. I can see the benefits of using 'tags' instead of 'folders' but please read what I want to say to you. I have imported my bookmarks from Firefox, and I was very pleased to know that folders & subfolders was translated with tags. The problem is when I add a new bookmark and want to add the same list of tags of other bookmark, to get organized equally. I DON'T REMEMBER all these 'tags' structure, and what I suggest is the following:
For example, I had in Firefox an structure of folders like this: Multimedia - > Video - > TV
Also, I had another structure like this: P2P - > Video
When importing on Diigo, for the first case the tags would be 'Multimedia, Video, TV' and 'P2P, Video' for the second one.
What I suggest is when bookmarking any web (from Diigolet or Diigo's toolbar) a big box displaying all my tags could appear, and when clicking any of the tags, in whatever palce could appear a LIST showing EVERY COMBINATION made with that tag.
So, if I click on 'Video', a list would appear showing one entry with 'Multimedia, Video, TV' and another entry with 'P2P, Video', and I could choose which one fits better with the bookmark I am storing.
Some like that could be made for 'Filtered Bookmark Lists' on Diigo toolbar.
antomonte wrote:
> Hi,
> - Diigo is... why not say... wonderful,... beauty !! and the entries of the bookmarks are very nice, but sometimes I need to find a bookmark in an 'ocean' of bookmarks, and would be easier if every entry in the list were ... not so big, so splendid. The possibility of a 'plain' (one line height) list of bookmarks would be very useful sometimes.
=====> You are the first user to request this feature and we'd like to hear more opinions about this. If many people like this. We will implement it. BTW, to find a bookmark, you can try the full text search or tag search.
> - One of the most important things I need about bookmarks, is getting them as organized as possible (so I am used to use Firefox bookmarks' system) with folders and subfolders. I can see the benefits of using 'tags' instead of 'folders' but please read what I want to say to you. I have imported my bookmarks from Firefox, and I was very pleased to know that folders & subfolders was translated with tags. The problem is when I add a new bookmark and want to add the same list of tags of other bookmark, to get organized equally. I DON'T REMEMBER all these 'tags' structure, and what I suggest is the following:
=========> In the next version, there is a list feature which can be used as folder.
> For example, I had in Firefox an structure of folders like this: Multimedia - > Video - > TV
> Also, I had another structure like this: P2P - > Video
> When importing on Diigo, for the first case the tags would be 'Multimedia, Video, TV' and 'P2P, Video' for the second one.
> What I suggest is when bookmarking any web (from Diigolet or Diigo's toolbar) a big box displaying all my tags could appear, and when clicking any of the tags, in whatever palce could appear a LIST showing EVERY COMBINATION made with that tag.
> So, if I click on 'Video', a list would appear showing one entry with 'Multimedia, Video, TV' and another entry with 'P2P, Video', and I could choose which one fits better with the bookmark I am storing.
========> This idea is good. We'd like to implement it later.
> > For example, I had in Firefox an structure of folders like this: Multimedia - > Video - > TV
> > Also, I had another structure like this: P2P - > Video
> > When importing on Diigo, for the first case the tags would be 'Multimedia, Video, TV' and 'P2P, Video' for the second one.
> > What I suggest is when bookmarking any web (from Diigolet or Diigo's toolbar) a big box displaying all my tags could appear, and when clicking any of the tags, in whatever palce could appear a LIST showing EVERY COMBINATION made with that tag.
> > So, if I click on 'Video', a list would appear showing one entry with 'Multimedia, Video, TV' and another entry with 'P2P, Video', and I could choose which one fits better with the bookmark I am storing.
> ======== > This idea is good. We'd like to implement it later.
I agree for this too !!!
papillooon wrote:
> > > For example, I had in Firefox an structure of folders like this: Multimedia - > Video - > TV
> > > Also, I had another structure like this: P2P - > Video
> > > When importing on Diigo, for the first case the tags would be 'Multimedia, Video, TV' and 'P2P, Video' for the second one.
> > > What I suggest is when bookmarking any web (from Diigolet or Diigo's toolbar) a big box displaying all my tags could appear, and when clicking any of the tags, in whatever palce could appear a LIST showing EVERY COMBINATION made with that tag.
> > > So, if I click on 'Video', a list would appear showing one entry with 'Multimedia, Video, TV' and another entry with 'P2P, Video', and I could choose which one fits better with the bookmark I am storing.
> > ======== > This idea is good. We'd like to implement it later.
>
> I agree for this too !!!
Yes agree. Would be very handy feature.
In response to Joel's post:
(antomonte)> - Diigo is... why not say... wonderful,... beauty !! and the entries of the bookmarks are very nice, but sometimes I need to find a bookmark in an 'ocean' of bookmarks, and would be easier if every entry in the list were ... not so big, so splendid. The possibility of a 'plain' (one line height) list of bookmarks would be very useful sometimes.
(Joel) =====> You are the first user to request this feature and we'd like to hear more opinions about this. If many people like this. We will implement it. BTW, to find a bookmark, you can try the full text search or tag search.
There was a paper about taggging recently published (Apr 2007) that found that a simple list (one line height) of tags provided better comprehension to its users than (more) traditional tag clouds where word size varied with tag frequency. It struck me that this could be applied to your bookmarks list here, too, similar to what antomonte suggested. The paper link can be found here: http://www.citeulike.org/user/jacekg/article/1343286
-Brynn
Thanks. I bookmarked this paper just now:). we will try to find and read this paper to get more info.
When is v.3 coming out?
Here's a few suggestions. Note (I'm a librarian that recently discovered bookmarking tags etc)
Your enhanced linkroll option only allows up to 20. How about a fill in the box option with an xx number?
How about adding newsvine to your list of elsewhere bookmarking options!
Are you exploring geomapping options? One of the things missing in 2d tags is the ability to locate a link geographically some place on the planet.
How about being able to load a feed of stories into Diigo, and then rapid tag them all at once.
A long time ago, there was an old dos program called xtree. You could quickly run through a directory of files and select them in a split screen mode with the upper screen showing a half screen of the document and the lower segment the index of files.
I currently use an agent program called net vampire 4.0 to quickly download 50-200 webpages into a directory. I then have old dos programs that strip the news stories down to text and locate the title date location author etc. into a clean text document. It is then loaded into a program that like the above xtree program gives me a keystroke only hierarchy where I can quickly go through up to 200 stories tagging them and filing them into a directory system all in less than 40 minutes.
At present, the current structure of tagging is very clumsy and doesn't allow me, or a librarian with a large subset of topics under a major subject area to tag quickly and across a variety of issues that may or may not be linked to the main topic area.
Within just a few weeks of 2-d tagging, my tag cloud is already way too big and cumbersome to expand upon which I would like to do to more than just one or two subject areas. I discovered your service 3 days ago and feel that you could make a dramatic jump in how more advanced taggers, or librarians could work with your service. I've been filing news stories into a library for over a decade and prefer my old system to tagging as it doesn't offer the ability to preload a group of stories that can then be tagged quickly. One programmer I know suggested something like cooliris but letting it strip out most images so that the document loads extremely fast (option to turn it this on or off depending on the media content with the on option showing extension types for more advanced passes)
With the advanced programming capacity you have today, why now create tool that allows an advanced user to build their own keystroke initiated tag within tag index so that they can quickly add a whole variety of tags a link.
For example:
olitics
abor istory cience eit
A 2nd tier of options likecology stronomy a thropology e it
with tags under each subgroup say up to 5 or 6 layers deep with a full page width of tags up to 3 or 4 lines deep all usingeystroked options so that the tag lights up when the key is pressed!
If you could build something like this into diigo I'd give you a bloody donation!!!
I currently put out a newsletter (sorry not for public consumption) that is 5-10 times bigger than the NY Times every day all organized by subject geographically.
Everything I've seen with Diigo puts you way ahead of del.icio.us and other similar bookmarking services.
A few interesting investigative resources!
Tag Sorting: Another tool in an information architect's toolbox
http://www.rashmisinha.com/archives/05_02/tag-sorting.html
Automated tag sorting
http://www.pui.ch/phred/automated_tag_clustering/
Joel Liu
Ole C Brudvik
papillooon Looon
Brynn Evans
Antonio Montesinos
Energy Net